Concerns About Permanent Ban

Eternal Colossus··1 votes·1,816 views

Good afternoon,

I would like to speak to a RIOT specialist that with answers specifically related to the issues that my account faced.

I genuinely feel that I did not deserve the ban that you gave me almost 2 years ago, nor did I deserve the majority of punishments that I was given prior to that point. As previously mentioned, I did indeed have some moments of frustration where I let my intentionally trolling teammates push me to response, though it is hard for most people to not get frustrated at that kind of behavior to some extent or another. However, I want to address how that has nothing to do with breaking the Summoner’s Code of Conduct that we agree to in League of Legends. First, I will discuss the times that I was punished prior to the permanent ban. 90% of these bans were based on the idea that I was doing something wrong by pointing out and not liking or agreeing with my teammates who were openly intentionally throwing or trolling. I am not a negative person, and as far as negative attitude and verbal abuse I know that I am less of both than the majority of players that play the game, including those that still play. I never swear at anyone, I do not use verbal abuse or hate speech against anyone, I do not intentionally feed or throw, I do my best to stay calm and supportive and encouraging to my teammates, and I try my hardest to use persuasion to help my team to do their best. However, it is well known how toxic this community has become, as it was voted to be the most toxic online game for multiple years in a row. Along with this, it is well known how many people consistently intentionally troll and throw, and who act as if this does matter because they have never and will never get punished for it. Unfortunately as far as I have seen, those players have been more correct than incorrect. I am unsure as to why this is the case, since their intentionally feeding and trolling is so blatantly clear that it should be easy to hone in on them and make sure that they understand that this type of behavior will not be tolerated.

However, it seems that instead of taking the initiative to remove those players, you instead focused your efforts on the positive players such as myself that were not ok with those verbally abusive and trolling players having free reign in the game. I received a temporary ban every time that I pointed out to my team that one of our teammates was intentionally trolling (but that we should just ignore them and keep trying), or pointed out to the enemy team that someone on my team is intentionally trolling, or said to the enemy team that they should consider reporting someone who intentionally trolled in order to hopefully get them out of the community. None of this is against the Summoner's Code of Conduct, yet it was used as a backboard for the punishment of my profile. It is sad to think that RIOT games would think that it is more important to punish the players that are frustrated with the number of trolls that RIOT has allowed to stay in the game, instead of punishing the trolls themselves to actually improve the community of this game.

In fact, it is worth noting that the final permanent ban on my account was marked as due to “witch hunting”. I had to submit a support ticket just to ask what that meant. In short, my 4 teammates were all queued together, and were verbally abusive against me, and intentionally trolling me, and I chose to mute them and not respond to their insults. When the enemy team asked me in all chat if my teammates were intentionally trolling me, and I responded saying that yes they were, that earned me the “witch hunting” permanent ban.

Next, I will discuss the other 10% of the punishments that came to my profile, namely, errors in RIOT’s report system as well as openly fraudulent actions by RIOT employees in the punishment of my account. To start, I am unsure if your automated punishment algorithm has improved in the last 2 years, but it became very clear to me that it did not work well during the time that I was getting account punishments. There were multiple times where I was punished after not doing or saying anything, and I contacted RIOT about it in a support ticket, and the refreshingly honest RIOT employee told me that after looking at my account and the punishment ticket, that I did not deserve the punishment that I was given. He apologized profusely to me, saying that the fairly new automated system (“temporarily” replacing the Tribunal system which was currently in “extended maintenance”) still had many flaws in it, and that unfortunately he did not have the power to remove the temporary ban, but that luckily the ban was almost half way over and that hopefully it would not happen to my account again (which it did one more time afterwards).

Along with this, it was made known to me exactly how the RIOT automated ban system works (or worked at that point), including its errors. I understand that this is apparently sensitive information that RIOT did not want to be made public information due to the fear that players would find loopholes to exploit the system in their favor. However, an honest and very helpful RIOT employee in a support ticket made the system very clear to me, detailing that the automated system was designed to track the amount of reports against a player within a certain number of games, and that if the number of report received within that set number of games exceeded what was considered to be an average number of reports, the player was automatically marked for punishment. Unfortunately, as stated openly by this RIOT employee, this system was not very effective (at least yet) at dealing with teammates who are all queued together and all report me, and convince the enemy team to all report me, giving the automated system a false marker of punishment.

Next, unfortunately, is the issue of fraudulent and abusive actions done by RIOT employees against my account. There were multiple times where I submitted either a support ticket or a public forum board's topic asking for a RIOT employee to explain to me how my actions of pointing out trolls violated anything within the Summoner's Code. In more than a handful of these situations, a RIOT employee eventually responded and escalated to being openly verbally abusive against me, often using hate speech and threats to deter me from responding any further.

With this, there was at least one horribly illegal situation where I played with a certain player that was verbally abusive and intentionally trolling the team for the whole game. I stood up to him, defending my teammates whom he was harassing (to the level of trying to convince them to commit suicide) and trying to boost their motivation to keep trying to win even though this player was being toxic and trolling. The player continued to verbally harass and swear at me in every profane way imaginable, and then at the end of the game commented to me that his brother in law had been spectating our entire game and was posting it to his Twitch account. He then said that this brother in law (whose account he named) was also a RIOT employee who made sure that he would never get banned no matter what he did, and who was working on putting in a permanent ban punishment for me as we spoke. I logged out of the post game chat, and instantly got a notification of a temporary ban. I then submitted a support ticket outlining the details of what had happened, and I received a response from a RIOT employee that had essentially the same name as the brother in law's account that had been cited by the verbally abusive player. This RIOT employee then said that I deserved my punishment and that no further response would be allowed, and terminated the support ticket. I then submitted another support ticket asking for another RIOT employee, this time focusing on a legitimate concern of a fraudulent action by a RIOT employee. The response that I got was unhelpful at best, essentially saying "we cannot confirm or deny the actions of any RIOT employee, we don't think that this RIOT employee is the brother in law of that player, and your ban will not be removed". After being unbanned, I checked the profile and match history of the verbally abusive and trolling player, and he had not received any temporary ban over the course of the month (visible due to him playing games at least once every day).

It is also worth noting that upon trying to locate many of these support tickets and board posts that have the information that I have referenced, in order to provide screenshots of them for verification on board posts on the same topic, I found that all of those tickets and board posts had been manually deleted by RIOT. The instances showing RIOT employee hate speech and threats against me, the instances where RIOT employees shared information with me about the automated ban system and apologized for me receiving an undeserved ban from it, as well as other tickets were all permanently deleted.

Finally, I will address some of the statements made previously to this comment by the RIOT employee who responded to my support ticket. You say that you cannot turn a blind eye to the “negative impact” that I was having on my games. As mentioned, I did not have a negative impact in my games. I was honored in many of them for being the teammate willing to stand up to the verbally abusive and trolling teammates, and defending my other teammates and encouraging them to keep trying even though we were stuck with someone who was trying their hardest to throw the game. I did indeed invest a lot of time and effort into this account, which ironically caused RIOT to send an email to this account stating that me as an important part of our community and as a long-time Nautilus player should respond with my insights into the champion’s lore, abilities, and overall game appeal to help RIOT games improve him as a champion. You say that the banning of my account was in order to “maintain a positive game environment”. Unfortunately, you banned the wrong person if that was your goal. That is like watching while a concerned citizen stops an armed robber that you let through the door, then swooping in, arresting the concerned citizen, and letting the robber walk free, because the citizen was “not maintaining a positive environment”.

Again, I would ask for a RIOT employee to address this matter personally. I plan on pushing this as far up the chain as need be until I can find answers to the very concerning things that I have had to deal with in this account. I plan on posting this to a discussion board to hopefully get some insight and support from the community as well.

Eternal Colossus Tanky Support Specialist "Your blade appears quite dull"

24 Comments

ModThe Djinn8 votes

There were multiple times where I submitted either a support ticket or a public forum board's topic asking for a RIOT employee to explain to me how my actions of pointing out trolls violated anything within the Summoner's Code. In more than a handful of these situations, a RIOT employee eventually responded and escalated to being openly verbally abusive against me, often using hate speech and threats to deter me from responding any further.

Was it on this account? Because there is only a SINGLE deletion of any content on the account you're posting from, and that was from March 3rd of 2015. The only content it contained was a full chat log which, yes, did include trolling behavior -- but also mentioned individual player's names, which is clearly against the rules of the board. While I understand that experience can be frustrating, the correct course of action is to report them, not to violate board rules.

Also, speaking as a current moderator, we wouldn't delete complaints about Riot as long as those complaints are respectful and follow the board rules.


Without seeing your chat logs I can't comment on the specific concerns of this post, but I will say that one player feels is an undeserved suspension is often a case of that player's personal beliefs not aligning with those held by Riot and the community. In these cases it is idle to communicate the issue so that player understands why a punishment was issued, but it is not Riot's responsibility to ensure that every player is 100% satisfied with the outcome of a punishment inquiry.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Yes it was indeed on this account. I can't recall if it was before or after the one that you pointed out, but it was around the same time. And with that one that was deleted I understood and reposted the post but excluded the names of the summoners. I actually think (if I remember correctly) that post was about the verbally abusive and trolling summoner that I mentioned who said that his brother in law was going to perma ban me.

But, the other two board posts that were deleted do not show up at all any more. They were both ones where RIOT employees flew off the handles at me, and engaged in behavior that would be bannable if it was in-game. My only guess is that they were deleted to remove that record of their behavior. I would hope that some kind of warning or action was given to them for their behavior, but it also makes it hard for me to "prove" my point when those board posts are just gone. And I don't think that they would delete complaints about RIOT, but it does seem like they deleted posts that either had sensitive information (like how the automated banning system works) or examples of RIOT employees being verbally abusive.

And no, it is not RIOT's responsibility to ensure that every player is 100% satisfied with the outcome of a punishment inquiry. However, when the issue is brought up, I believe that RIOT is responsible to explain actions that seem to not correlate to the beliefs held by RIOT and the community, including but not limited to bans against my account that happened due to the flaws of the automated system, bans against my account made by potentially fraudulent RIOT employees, or temporary and permanent bans to my account based on "witch hunting", which apparently only correlated to affirming that indeed, someone who is intentionally trolling is intentionally trolling. If those are viewed as acceptable by RIOT then I feel that they are responsible to the community to explain them, as I doubt that I am the only summoner who has faced the chopping block based off of these illegitimate accusations.

ModThe Djinn6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-04-15T23:28:15.160+0000)

Yes it was indeed on this account. I can't recall if it was before or after the one that you pointed out, but it was around the same time. And with that one that was deleted I understood and reposted the post but excluded the names of the summoners. I actually think (if I remember correctly) that post was about the verbally abusive and trolling summoner that I mentioned who said that his brother in law was going to perma ban me.

It is physically impossible to delete a removal from the account history. If an action had been taken, it would be present. Neither I nor Riot could do it if we wanted to. Hence my confusion.

And, again, I can't comment on the rest without seeing chat logs. Apologies, but I'd be guessing blindly.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

If that is the case, then I am unsure where they could have gone. Is there a way for someone to hide the threads from me, or to move them somewhere else where they no longer show up when I try to find them? Perhaps "delete" was the incorrect word, but more accurately I have had situations like this where people on the boards ask me to show screenshot proof of the RIOT employee verbal abuse or of the information that they gave me, and upon trying to look up those specific threads and support tickets I am unable to find them.

And as far as chat logs, I can provide some (the ones that didn't disappear) if it would help you make a more thorough analysis of what I am saying. For instance, I think that somewhere I might have saved the post-game chat from the game with the teammate who's RIOT brother in law temporarily banned me and helped him to walk free (according to his own words). I could try to find that or as much as I can of anything else.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-15T23:40:59.666+0000)If that is the case, then I am unsure where they could have gone. Is there a way for someone to hide the threads from me, or to move them somewhere else where they no longer show up when I try to find them?

There is not, to my knowledge.

...upon trying to look up those specific threads and support tickets I am unable to find them.

I have never heard of this sort of deletion. If anything, send in another ticket asking. I know some of the support team, and this doesn't sound like anything they'd do, frankly. My suspicion is the system glitched or things get deleted after time, rather than anything malevolent.

And as far as chat logs, I can provide some (the ones that didn't disappear) if it would help you make a more thorough analysis of what I am saying.

It would, yes.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

So first, I am still unable to find those specific board posts and support tickets, and ones that I submitted before these ones and after are still visible, but I cannot find those specific ones with any method that I try.

You also have to realize that this would have been the support team 2-3 years ago, which is likely not the same group as it is now. None of my support tickets or boards have disappeared in the last 2-3 years (as far as I know), probably because that is when they perma banned me.

But help me to think of what else it could be then. What would you think if you were in my shoes, and upon trying to use these posts/tickets as screenshots to prove to people that they happened, you find that only those specific ones are no longer anywhere to be found.

Also, what is RIOT's policy when it comes to board posts that a RIOT employee throws out verbal abuse and hate speech? I know that it does not happen a lot, but the times that it happened to me have all disappeared. Same question with RIOT's policy with deleting support tickets that either give confidential RIOT information (like how the automated punishment algorithm works) or RIOT employees admitting that the system punished me in error? Those have also disappeared.

Also, I'm still looking for those chat logs. Sadly I may not be able to find the one that has the one verbally abusive/trolling teammate with the brother in law in RIOT who temp banned me, it looks like that may be one of the documents that I lost when my computer crashed. But I'll keep looking. What other chat logs would you like?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-16T17:27:57.656+0000)So first, I am still unable to find those specific board posts and support tickets, and ones that I submitted before these ones and after are still visible, but I cannot find those specific ones with any method that I try.

Were they threads you started, or posts you made?

But help me to think of what else it could be then. What would you think if you were in my shoes, and upon trying to use these posts/tickets as screenshots to prove to people that they happened, you find that only those specific ones are no longer anywhere to be found.

I legitimately don't know, save that if there had been any moderator action of any sort on your posts I would have a record of that. The only way around that is if you delete something yourself, and then it's a pain to find.

Also, what is RIOT's policy when it comes to board posts that a RIOT employee throws out verbal abuse and hate speech?

If you edit out the name, it's likely fine. If you don't, we'd have to discuss it internally, but it's likely a name-and-shame situation that should be posted without the name and submitted to Player Support with the name.

What other chat logs would you like?

I can't really comment on a punishment without the logs that led to that punishment, sadly.

Eternal Colossus1 votes
  1. Threads that I started, assuming that is what you mean when I "Create a Discussion"

  2. I definitely did not delete them myself. And I just went back and double checked, and the most recent Discussion that I created was right after my other Discussion disappeared, as I cite in the intro and comments that my other discussion was deleted.

  3. And I don't mean board posts where I specifically posted it to cite and give screenshots about the RIOT employee's verbal abuse/hate speech, I mean one of my Discussion/board posts where a RIOT employee hops onto it and is verbally abusive against me? That is the one that disappeared, is the actual original source of the verbal abuse/hate speech of a RIOT employee against me in the comments. Scrolling back through some of my older posts where I also talked about it, it reminded me that one of the many things that this RIOT employee did was not only insult me, but threaten me that if I do not stop talking that he will permanently ban me. In this case, would RIOT ever delete that whole discussion thread to salvage the situation (and possibly make it impossible for me to cite it)?

  4. Well I can supply some of the logs. I'm looking through some of my past support tickets and board posts for them. I will post them as I find them. First one will be right below this.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

21 day ban cited as "play calling"

(start of support ticket response)

We are usually unable to give out chat logs while the tribunal is down but we have made an exception to your case. I noticed that in a lot of the games you have received your restrictions and suspension for you have been spamming chat with negativity. Chat is meant to be used to constructively communicate with teammates. Some examples would be; hey dragon is up soon everyone be prepared for it, not telling players every detail on how to use their champion and where to be...

GAME ONE: [0:51] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): just play safe veig. As long as she doesn't get fed, we'll carry bot [1:37] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): i'll ward your red j4 [1:50] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): yep [2:46] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): so close [3:49] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): gj [4:21] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): wanna b? [4:28] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): k [4:49] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): vi bot [5:11] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): gj [5:28] Eternal Colossus (Nautilus): vi near bot

GAME TWO: [0:43] Eternal Colossus (Jayce): i'll ward your red [1:13] Eternal Colossus (Jayce): she's OP [1:15] Eternal Colossus (Jayce): so it's k [6:58] Eternal Colossus (Jayce): sigh [7:04] Eternal Colossus (Jayce): great, mouse decided to die........ [7:38] Eternal Colossus (Jayce): and this j4 is camping me

ModThe Djinn2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-16T18:20:19.534+0000)Scrolling back through some of my older posts where I also talked about it, it reminded me that one of the many things that this RIOT employee did was not only insult me, but threaten me that if I do not stop talking that he will permanently ban me.

In this case, would RIOT ever delete that whole discussion thread to salvage the situation (and possibly make it impossible for me to cite it)?

No, and if they did I could see it in your deletion history. Threads are deleted when they violate board rules, and that's pretty much it.

I've looked through your entire posting history and deletion history, and I can only find the following threads that are at all relevant:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/YiEqA4It?show=flat&page=2

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2rcQX13j

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Vd1bM185?show=flat&page=2

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/iLjN7xf8

At this point there's nothing more I can help with. There is no history I have available that shows any of the actions claimed, and I'm confident there is not a way to hide removals.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-16T18:28:55.782+0000)

No, and if they did I could see it in your deletion history. Threads are deleted when they violate board rules, and that's pretty much it.

I've looked through your entire posting history and deletion history, and I can only find the following threads that are at all relevant:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/YiEqA4It?show=flat&page=2

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2rcQX13j

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/Vd1bM185?show=flat&page=2

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/iLjN7xf8

At this point there's nothing more I can help with. There is no history I have available that shows any of the actions claimed, and I'm confident there is not a way to hide removals.

Well unfortunately, it sounds like you have already given up on the notion of believing me instead of considering that potentially someone at RIOT actually deleted the posts and tickets that I discussed. If that is the case then there is not much that I can do to "prove" to you. However, I will keep posting chat logs as I find them to show you the "evidence" used to temp and perma ban me.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Temporary 2 week ban for Verbal Abuse

Game 1: [0:39] Eternal Colossus: let me guess. Happened to you? [0:46] Eternal Colossus: yep [0:51] Eternal Colossus: it happened my last game maokai [0:54] Eternal Colossus: but not this one [1:15] Eternal Colossus: makes no sense to me, but oh well [1:34] Eternal Colossus: need a leash shaco, or you good? [1:50] Eternal Colossus: I think he's good lol [1:57] Eternal Colossus: he can do the same thing maokai can do [3:07] Eternal Colossus: gj [6:38] Eternal Colossus: warded [7:03] Eternal Colossus: back if yu have to ashe [10:24] Eternal Colossus: panth's ult down [11:50] Eternal Colossus: talon [11:54] Eternal Colossus: why is vel here [12:01] Eternal Colossus: 3 mia bot [12:04] Eternal Colossus: i know lol [12:33] Eternal Colossus: gj [12:48] Eternal Colossus: k [14:01] Eternal Colossus: panth ult down again [14:03] Eternal Colossus: 3 mia bot [14:25] Eternal Colossus: k [15:12] Eternal Colossus: k [15:22] Eternal Colossus: don tback [15:25] Eternal Colossus: .... [16:59] Eternal Colossus: ashe can yu hold [18:19] Eternal Colossus: panth bot [20:18] Eternal Colossus: gj [20:54] Eternal Colossus: vel bot [21:17] Eternal Colossus: talon

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-16T18:39:21.920+0000)Well unfortunately, it sounds like you have already given up on the notion of believing me instead of considering that potentially someone at RIOT actually deleted the posts and tickets that I discussed.

I'm not saying I believe or don't believe you -- I'm saying merely that I have never heard of that happening, and cannot find any record of a deletion. My personal ability to assist, therefore, is at an end, and whether I believe you or not I have no resources personally available to assist further.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Well let me put it this way. If you check my "Boards Profile", the farthest thing that it has back is 2 years ago, which was essentially right when I got permanently banned. So, what happened to the Board comments and posts that I had before that point? I started playing in 2013, and while I may not be extremely active on the boards, I most definitely had posts extending back at least 3-4 years ago, including some of the ones that I have mentioned. I definitely can't see them on my screen (can provide screenshots if needed). But can you see them from your side? Are there any ways to find them.

Also, same question with support tickets, since the same support tickets that I am looking for are nonexistent any more on my screen.

I'm also wondering if you've had a chance to inspect some of the chat logs that I've posted on here so far. What are your thoughts? It's also worth mentioning that I was temporarily banned for "play calling" twice (one of which I posted the chat logs up above). I was banned for Hate Speech and Homophobia (which I unfortunately cannot find the chat logs for) and the chat logs said "I'll ward your red", "gj team", "lets push it", "Great game". And finally my permanent ban was for "Witch Hunting", which I haven't found chat logs for yet and can't see the support ticket that I submitted for it, but it was cited by a RIOT employee for being due to the enemy team asking me if my teammates were premade together and intentionally trolling me, and I responded "yes". It is also worth noting that I did not say a word to these teammates after minute 1 when it was clear that they were extremely verbally abusive and so I muted them. This, apparently, earns me a permanent ban for "witch hunting".

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000001000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-16T19:06:46.597+0000)Well let me put it this way. If you check my "Boards Profile", the farthest thing that it has back is 2 years ago, which was essentially right when I got permanently banned.

...if it's earlier than that, it's plausible it was on the forums, which were archived when the boards were created, and only accessible through that archive.

Is this the thread you mean? http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4862865&page=2

Because in that there are the following lines, which are definitely punishment worthy:

[22:39] Eternal Colossus: nasus i swear on my life [22:43] Eternal Colossus: learn how to call mia [23:48] Eternal Colossus: you have no idea how to play [24:13] Eternal Colossus: amumu I'm not even listening to you [24:17] Eternal Colossus: cause you are even worse [26:27] Eternal Colossus: and nasus is being useless [35:25] Eternal Colossus: nasus stop feedgin

[11:12] Eternal Colossus: do you know how to adc [16:48] Eternal Colossus: thanks for not helping [19:51] Eternal Colossus: so how about you stop talking, since you can't hit a single skill shot [23:30] Eternal Colossus: this is why we lose [23:38] Eternal Colossus: cause you run away at the first sign of a fiht [24:48] Eternal Colossus: ez you are worse than bronze

[13:35] Eternal Colossus [ALL]: stupid retarded champion [18:25] Eternal Colossus: says every bronze noob [21:46] Eternal Colossus: no teamwork at all [23:46] Eternal Colossus: vi stop talking [33:39] Eternal Colossus: vi shut up

There's a habit of blame-placing and non-constructive criticism that, while not the worst, definitely adds to to be a problem if consistent.

If that's NOT the thread, I'd recommend browsing the forum archive. There's a lot of old content there.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

That's not the one that I was looking for, but I'll look through there and see if I can find anything. How do I search for posts made by me in the forums?

And yes, I would agree that I would deserve a punishment or at least a warning from this. However, instead they jumped straight up to a 2 week ban out of nowhere.

Also, I will mention that this is one of the cases that RIOT has a very poor tendency to take things out of context when citing chat logs.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Colossus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FpAcudAL,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-16T19:47:06.645+0000)That's not the one that I was looking for, but I'll look through there and see if I can find anything. How do I search for posts made by me in the forums?

Google, I guess. I don't believe there was a search function.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

I don't think there was lol. Made it impossible to find anything.

Silent Gravity1 votes

On the top right, click on your name and then click on "Boards Profile". That will bring you to a screen that contains every post you've made. You can select "Their Discussions" to see every post that you started.

If it happened a long long time ago, it could be on the old forums. I don't have any information on how to find those posts.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Yep. As I just mentioned to The Djinn, I can see posts that happened earlier than the ones in question, and ones after. But those specific few are nowhere to be found.

AeroWaffle4 votes

Good afternoon, I would like to speak to a RIOT specialist that with answers specifically related to the issues that my account faced.

Then it would probably be better if you make a support ticket. This is a public board mostly for different players to talk to each other. Riot employees will rarely post and when they do it's on their own time.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Yes and that main post that I put here is actually my response to the support ticket that I have in place already. I posted a support ticket and got a copy/pasted response that they send to pretty much everyone who asks the same question, and so I responded with more of an explanation of the things that I want to find answers to.

The reason that I posted it here is to hopefully get as much public opinion and insight into this, and hopefully to bring other people who have had the same issues so that RIOT can eventually address it.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Also, I found my saved link of the games where the other player's brother in law got me temp banned. I also apologize, I mispoke. Upon re-reading the chat logs of that game, I remembered that the verbally abusive/trolling player in question was on the enemy team, not my own. I was top laning Jayce, and he was top laning Voli. I went ahead and changed the names of the people in this post-game chat so that you wouldn't know who they are. You can see the verbal abuse pretty clearly, and the threat near the end that his gf's brother will perma ban me.

Also, added onto this, when I submitted a support ticket asking for clarification and for RIOT to do an investigation of if this is true, I got a response from a RIOT employee named Gregish, which seems to me to be the "Ish" brother in law that the verbally abusive player cited.

I'll paste the post-game chat log below.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

Player 1: 9 reports jayce Player1: be happy Eternal Colossus: go ahead Eternal Colossus: I said nothing wrong Eternal Colossus: however, you did Player 2: LOL Player 2: LOL Player 3: gg Player 2: LOL Player 4: jayce sucks fat monkey dickkkkkkkkkkkk Player 5: jayce you were toxic the entire game Player 1: All you did wwas cry Player 6: shh Player 4: jayce gonna report me Player 2: VOLI DIDNT EVEN TALK Player 1: Because youre bad Player 6: it's all ogre now Player 4: but i don't give a **** Player 4: **** Player 4: **** Player 4: **** Eternal Colossus: mhm Player 4: **** Player 4: you Player 4: jayce Player 4: **** Player 2: JACYE SUCKS **** Eternal Colossus: and your swearing will make you perma banned ;) Player 4: no it wont Player 6: :( Player 4: suck monkey **** Eternal Colossus: btw, I'm submitting this chat right now to a report ticket Player 6: TALKING LOUDLY Eternal Colossus: so RIOT will see all of this Player 6: WP Player 6: GP Player 6: GG* Player 2: OK Player 2: TRIBUNAL Player 6: JARVAN YOU DID GOOD Player 4: and if you get 9 reports Player 1: I took a screen shot of our in game chat Player 2: GO AHEAD Player 4: they will see you Player 6: VOLI TOO Player 2: AND CHECK OUT THE GAME CHAT Player 1: And my girlfriends brother is in the tribunal Player 6: WOULD NOT MIND DOING REMATCH Player 4: and check the chat records Player 4: from game Player 1: Ill have him get you banned right now Eternal Colossus: and again, all they will do is ban you Player 4: and not say again Eternal Colossus: i didn't swear Eternal Colossus: didn't harass Eternal Colossus: and didn't threaten Player 6: WINS ARE LOSSES IN THE LONG RUN Player 4: you were an ignorant **** Eternal Colossus: you all did the above Player 6: CURE WORLD HUNGER Player 1: JAYCE PLEASE STOP ALL YOURE EDOING IS EMBARRASIING YOURSELEF YOU LITTLE SIX YEAR OLD Player 6: BY LOSING Player 4: and a total ******* Player 6: PUTIN IS DEAD Player 4: go **** yourself Eternal Colossus: lol please, you're doing me a favor by talking Player 6: GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE Player 4: narcicistic douchebag Eternal Colossus: every word you add is another report against you Player 6: ****** DID NOTHING WRONG Player 1: Annd youee getting banned by being a baby Player 4: every thing i say Eternal Colossus: good luck Player 6: ****** KILLED ****** Player 4: is me not giving a **** Player 4: cuz you're totally worth it Player 1: "IM ETERENAL COLOSSUSS AND ALL I DO IS CRY AND INSULT PEOPLE Player 4: stupid ***** Player 6: FAKER IS SENPAI Player 1: WAAAAAH Player 4: god damn Player 1: SOMEONE CALL THE WAHMBULANCE Player 6: BERJSEN IS GOD IN URF MODE Player 1: ETERNAL ON THE RUN Eternal Colossus: lol the fun part is, I'm not even saying anything ;) Player 6: GO WATCH HIM PLAY EZREAL Player 1: The fun npart is theyll check in game chat Player 1: and youll get bannned Eternal Colossus: however, you're all just adding more and more to getting yourselves perma banned Player 6: BJERSEN IS BOSS EZREAL Player 1: for crying and insulting Player 1: l game Eternal Colossus: banned for what lol Player 6: BJERGSEN* Player 6: I GOT A B IN SPELLING Player 6: AND AN A++ IN GEOMETRY Eternal Colossus: name what I'm gonna get banned for, please do Player 1: I love how banned this jkayce is Player 6: SCHOOL IS GLORIOUS Player 6: LY BAD Player 1: Youre gonna get banned for crying and insulting Player 6: LEAGUE ALL DAY Player 6: LEAGUE IS LOVE Player 6: LEAGUE IS LIFE Player 6: LET'S GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME Player 6: AND HAVE FUN Player 6: AND MAKE JOKES Eternal Colossus: Don't mind me. Just waiting until the end of this chat so I can copy it all and send it to RIOT Player 6: CAUSE JOKES ARE FUN Player 6: TEARS ARE SALTY Player 6: PUT THEM ON EGGS Player 1: Good do it, theyll cheeck i ngame echat and see how much of a baby and toxic little kid you are Player 6: FOR THE BEST MEAL EVER Player 6: WOULD YOU LIKE SOME FLOWERS Player 6: I CAN GET YOU SOME FLOWERS Player 6: I CAN ALSO GET YOU SOME FRIES WITH THAT Player 1: You cried to your mother for being camped cos you dont know how to plkay. Eternal Colossus: See luckily, I am doing exactly what RIOT says to do, and ignore you Player 6: POSEIDON IS BEST GOD Player 1: RIOT is gonna see the ingame chat and disown a little kid like you Player 6: WAT DO Player 1: What are you/ 12? Cry more please. Eternal Colossus: nope. Cause I did'nt say anything verbally abusive in-game Player 1: "OMG STOP CAMPUING ME JERKS YOURE REPORTED' Player 1: Yeah you did Eternal Colossus: unlike what you are all saying at the moment lol Player 1: "Let voli get whipped" Player 1: eVEN THOUGH I DESTROYED YOU Eternal Colossus: nope lol Player 1: Yep Eternal Colossus: I said "please just allowed the voli to get whooped" Player 1: And now youre getting banned Player 1: my girlfriends brother is a tribunnal worker Eternal Colossus: lol Player 1: RIOT trek Player 1: Ish is name Eternal Colossus: great for you Player 1: and now youre getting bannned Eternal Colossus: I'm sure he'll be proud of you once you get perma banned Player 1: No he's perma banning you right now Player 1: baddie little kid Player 1: Want proof Player 1: ? Eternal Colossus: Go right ahead Player 1: Go to twitch tv RIOT Trek. He's showing it right now Player 1: I sent him the chat and everythign Player 1: good luc kgetting banned child Eternal Colossus: If you don't mind me, I'm exiting the chat so I can add this to a report

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