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Surrendering epidemic

SolidBaby·12/27/2015, 4:06:36 AM·2 votes·841 views

Back in season 4 in NA soloq it seemed almost impossible to get a team to surrender. Back then I had the opinion that people were irrationally against surrendering which I found somewhat frustrating at times. In contrast if you watched high elo KR soloq games they would frequently be surrendered. Ironically, things are now in the opposite extreme and I find myself even more frustrated with the amount of players who are declaring my games over at 10 minutes or less.

I find player behavior is actually far worse now. At least in the old circumstance the players had a positive attitude about winning (like they thought it was possible and therefor were not spending a good portion of valuable game time complaining about how it's hopeless). The worst thing is most of these people have a far from objective outlook on the game. And often times the player who wants to quit is also the person who is most responsible for the team being behind. There should be a player behavior initiative to correct this. I don't even care if it's a joke, I don't want to see my teammate declare gg at 5 minutes ever again. No game is over at 5 minutes. It shouldn't be acceptable behavior to stop trying at that point when you have four other people on your team who went into soloq trying to win a game.

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Lady Ravenmore12/27/2015, 4:18:24 AM3 votes

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Back in season 4 in NA soloq it seemed almost impossible to get a team to surrender. Back then I had the opinion that people were irrationally against surrendering which I found somewhat frustrating at times. In contrast if you watched high elo KR soloq games they would frequently be surrendered. Ironically, things are now in the opposite extreme and I find myself even more frustrated with the amount of players who are declaring my games over at 10 minutes or less.

I find player behavior is actually far worse now. At least in the old circumstance the players had a positive attitude about winning (like they thought it was possible and therefor were not spending a good portion of valuable game time complaining about how it's hopeless). The worst thing is most of these people have a far from objective outlook on the game. And often times the player who wants to quit is also the person who is most responsible for the team being behind. There should be a player behavior initiative to correct this. I don't even care if it's a joke, I don't want to see my teammate declare gg at 5 minutes ever again. No game is over at 5 minutes. It shouldn't be acceptable behavior to stop trying at that point when you have four other people on your team who went into soloq trying to win a game.

A lot of this has to do with the generation of children playing the game. They all have a defeatist attitude...Look around it's not just league. This whole safespace bs, and mentality is ruining everything.

YCitizenSnipsY12/27/2015, 4:26:47 AM2 votes

In season 4 Riot tried to stop snowballing mechanics by introducing changes that were less punishing for mistakes. Reducing first blood gold, changing the way inhibitors worked, changing the towers. The reason surrender was less common in season 4 is because late game comps were favored and just turtling until you out scaled the enemy team was more common.

Honestly I don't get you "never surrender" players. Its a game and there comes a point where enjoying yourself is gonna out weigh the possibility of a comeback win, the surrender mechanic exist in this game for that very reason. Just becasue you think the game is winnable doesn't mean other players do nor does it mean they should continue to play a game they don't enjoy.

l Main Renekton12/27/2015, 4:36:29 AM1 votes

The style of the game is now snowball based and less prone to just turn around, which is why teams now have a feeling that when they're behind, they're done for for good

Lady Ravenmore12/27/2015, 4:49:41 AM1 votes

I think what OP might be getting at here is the majority of players are ready to surrender at first blood. Every game is a lesson.

PIMPSMOOTH12/27/2015, 10:17:45 AM1 votes

If it's a normal match and 3 teammates want to quit - let them go. The only thing worse than the 3 feeders who quit 5 minutes in are the 2 momo's who hold them hostage for 40 minutes because they never say die in a normals match nobody cares about.

DJColdCutz12/27/2015, 4:34:56 AM1 votes

Toward the end of last season and into this pre-season, rito has added a lot of snowbally mechanics/champions to League, so I think a lot more games are decided early on, especially in Bronze - Gold, than there used to be. That being said, a lot of people give up early necessarily because one of their lanes sucks and feeds a couple kills quickly, flame fights break out, etc., when really, you can have a really sucky laning phase and then all of a sudden everyone groups and wins a dragon fight and the game snowballs in your favor from there..

I try to keep my hopes up even if we're losing through laning phase and into the first fight.. If we lose the first team fight too, then I think it's pretty safe to say nothing will change.

Lu7GxFdkYz12/27/2015, 4:17:14 AM1 votes

plenty of games are over at 5 mins. if you have 5 deaths in 5 mins. its over.