Please, for the love of God, quit blaming your Miss Fortunes upon your jungler

Apocyliptic·1/4/2016, 9:47:59 PM·6 votes·633 views

So I used to be a jungle only player and I think overtime I got used to being blamed, but eventually I dropped it for mid lane because Azir looked awesome. After awhile I started to miss my old role, my old Rengar champion I used to oneshot with, so I started playing it again, and for the love of God I've never faced such toxicity in any other role.

Sure in mid lane you get the occassional "no mia" or the "you mia too much, stop" (can't ever make people happy), but that's about it, and besides, you have a chat to prove that you pinged. Though, might I add, bot laners, you have a map to... you can see when the mid laner is mia as well.

Thing is, when I go in the jungle, it seems like everyone of my laners expects me to win their lane for them. The ones usually guilty of this are bot laners, which is odd considering that's the most difficult lane to gank for no question. I felt the need to say this because my game last night we had a bot lane, and I think it was miss fortune (hence the title... i's so funny) and lux lane vs Caitlyn and Morgana. I don't know how it happened, but they lost... really hard. It wasn't just them either, my mid lane was feeding and didn't know how to play azir, and gangplank was top and didn't know how to play gangplank (I'm not saying this to be mean, it's just true). Needless to say, I had A LOT of lanes on my plate, that means I'm not going to waste my time ganking a snowballing MORGANA (hence, blackshield) and caitlyn lane with both summoners up; I'm gonna head to the (at the time) even mid lane and kill leblanc, which worked. I'm also going to go top and kill shen, which also worked.

Basically, try to see things from your junglers perspective next time you have one. Instead of taking your frustrations out on your jungler for, "no ganks" try playing safer and waiting till he CAN gank for you. Also, junglers, try to respond to your laners that say no ganks, gg, and if they reply with a snarky comment it's probably best to mute them.

What made me the most angry about this situation is I had about 80% kill praticipation and did the most damage on the team. You can't tell me that is, "no ganks."

18 Comments

Awkward Couch1/4/2016, 9:51:15 PM2 votes

First off, I see what you did with the title and I appreciate the pun. XD Second, this isn't a new problem to League. I've been playing since S2 and back then it was either blame the jungle for not winning my lane for me or blame the support for not warding enough. Hence no one played jungle or support.

Samus721/4/2016, 10:02:19 PM2 votes

I don't like to assign blame. I also don't care what position you called. But if you are nearby and I call for help multiple times and you don't show up, I will blame you if / when things go badly. You're supposed to help your team. Not run around the jungle getting your own gold and ignoring all else. Which is mainly what I see a bunch of junglers doing.

Edit: I don't like blaming Miss Fortune for anything. I like her hips too much.

The Deckowner1/5/2016, 2:58:42 AM1 votes

jungle and support requires great mentality.

Samus721/5/2016, 12:40:03 PM1 votes

I've seen a few non-tournament pro-played games. The majority of these have been Faker's matches. The guy is ruthless. He'll kill you mercilessly all while typing a friendly hello.

Since League is a team game, I'd rather watch the pros perform as a team and learn from that rather than what they do in solo queue. These guys are not dumb. They probably queue up on normal knowing full well they will be teamed with folks that don't know how to play as a team or don't want to play as a team. But the pros are also good enough at the game that they could solo win it and leave everyone, including their own team mates, in the dust.

Samus721/5/2016, 7:35:35 PM1 votes

Okay. Believe what you will. There's no point in discussing if you're dead set that what I say makes no sense.

shark music1/4/2016, 10:39:44 PM1 votes

The more I play jungle, the more I realize that there are unspoken limits in the system. Like, if we're losing one lane, I can probably fix that. And I agree it is my job to fix that. If we're losing two lanes, it starts getting a little weird. I can only be one place. And usually, when you are losing two lanes, it's top and bot, rarely mid and anything. There is simply no way to be an effective police force on both sides of the map at once. And sometimes you're losing all three lanes! If I could magically summon a copy of myself and send it off to play twice as well as I do, I still couldn't cover three collapsing lanes!

I will say, though, on the flip side, the most common problem I see with other junglers is that they just hate leaving the jungle. Like ganking and clearing forest monsters are their only two moves. That's not enough. Sometimes you have to hop out and cover a lane while someone shops or respawns. Sometimes you can't gank a lane, but still need to show up there, just to be a presence and slow the enemies' roll a bit. Your real job as a jungler is total map awareness, and plugging holes in your own team is just as important as creating them in the other.

disregardable1/4/2016, 9:55:56 PM1 votes

Nah, not when you're Rengar. There is NO reason for you to not gank bot. You have invis to walk past the wards and you can literally one shot the ADC. If you are a Rengar and you do not gank bottom lane, you are at least partially responsible for losing the game. It is not unreasonable to expect a stealth assassin to gank the squishy lane.