Playing with 4 premades is NOT a great experience!

YunoGasai Is God·11/4/2015, 12:13:37 PM·4 votes·464 views

I just learned that you will maybe be able to go 4 player premade in ranked SOLO-QUEUE with 2016. Well playing with 4 premades has never been and will never be a great experience. It's simply not fun beeing flamed by 4 people who can all communicate how bad you play and how it's your fault to not follow the calls the 4 premades do on teamspeak. I know Riot doesn't care about me, but please reconsider your decision.

6 Comments

OperationDEEZ111/4/2015, 12:17:49 PM2 votes

I play with friends pretty often, and they tend to be dicks to the odd one out. I try to stop them but you know how it goes.

TeCoolMage11/4/2015, 12:19:51 PM2 votes

Bleh I'd prefer if they allowed 3 instead of 4 because 4 mades are kinda trolly

Faith Breaker11/4/2015, 12:50:32 PM2 votes

Lol "Riot doesn't care about me"

Riot cares about Tencent and how every many more cents they make. I garuntee you if the order came from Tencent to add an aligator camp in the river they would. Money is the bottom line, and unless you are a Sponsor then lol yeah ok.

Fazuzu11/17/2015, 8:26:49 PM2 votes

even 3 is bad, just quit, sell your account, and pick up smite or dota 2. or even try to get into a beta for new ones, some have been really great. but the way that wow snagging a lot of the playerbase for mmorpgs has killed the chances of osme great mmos... league snagging it 3x worse has killed many interesting betas I have played before they even left occasionally since they couldn't compete in the saturated moba market. At this point, I hope league loses half of it's playerbase so that a couple of other games could rise up and flourish and offer something different.

EvilDustMan11/17/2015, 9:37:27 PM1 votes

Remember, premades of 4 will have less weight against you in reports and you will have more against them. THey will count as one report and you will count as 4. The research indicated that not all 4s were toxic, but there's a definite link in 4s being more toxic than 3s or 2s.

SmokedAlmonds11/17/2015, 10:40:42 PM1 votes

From Lyte's ask.fm:

Will Riot consider making premades with only 2,3 or 5 people and not 4 so the one player playing soloqueue is not getting screwed by being placed with a 4 man premade in ranked? #LeagueOfLegends Some players are really overreacting to the potential negative experiences from Premade 4s. In fact, across League, most games have at least 1 premade group in them and most players never notice. I just checked some older data on Premade 4s and here it is: Queue: Blind Pick (because we don't have Premade 4s in Solo/Duo today to look at) Group Comp: Premade 4s Only (no segmentation on positive, neutral, toxic or mixed groups of Premade 4s) Reports Checked: Negative Attitude # of Reports Received FROM THE PREMADE 4s to the SOLO per 100 games: 0.40 # of Reports Sent BY THE SOLO to the PREMADE 4s per 100 games: 0.67 Some caveats to this data: It's imperfect, and a quick check on a weekend. To do this properly at the office, you would analyze all report categories for billions of games across Normal Blind and Normal Draft and it'd take a lot longer. Secondly, this is Blind Pick, so the trends would definitely be slightly worse in a Dynamic Queue or "high stakes" context. Regardless, the data provides some insights. It's true that Premade 4s are slightly more toxic than we'd like compared to Premade 2s, 3s and 5s, but it's nowhere near as catastrophic as some players are suggesting. Think about it: for every 100 games with a Premade 4 that a Solo plays, they only report the Premade 0.67 times--less than 1 of the 100 games on average. This just goes to show that on average, players never even notice their teammates are Premade 4 and there aren't huge catastrophically negative experiences in every Premade 4 match.