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Punishment system suggestion

Kova·9/20/2018, 12:34:28 PM·3 votes·2,621 views

I've been thinking. The point of punishment is to prevent a player from acting in a bad way. Which is fine, because toxicity affects the whole team and its gameplay. Chat restrict, I'm pretty sure, really works well on every flamer. Many rule breakers stop flaming after a 14 days suspension as well.

Permanently banning players does not prevent them from negatively affecting teammates, it prevents them from playing the game. Which, in my opinion, is not the best way to deal with excessive toxicity. Some of them really deserved it, but more of them didn't.

I myself got permanently banned a few days ago for being excessively toxic in two games in a row because I was really really tilted. No racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia. Just a really excessive toxicity. Been playing a game for more than 6 years. Last time I was punished (before the permaban) was more than a year ago, I'm pretty sure. I had a bad day or two, and I just got fully permanently suspended from my account I used for 6 years and spent a lot of money on. This could happen to anybody. It really feels bad because I really am not as toxic, nowhere close to being toxic enough for a permanent ban, I had just a few games of toxicity that Riot company does not tolerate. And I'm sure many others feel like that as well. My friend as well got banned for saying "kys" multiple times just because the League system is intolerant on harm wishing messages.

This discussion is not about me or any other individual, it's about the system that could easily be way too harsh on certain players. I'm being fully objective. Giving such huge and important penalties based on a few chat logs is not good and can lead to really non-deserved punishments.

So what I'd like to suggest is changing/improving the punishment system to exclude the permabans, if possible. There has to be a way to prevent players from spreading toxicity without giving them a cold-hearted punishment many didn't/won't even deserve.

Rather keep 1 player that deserved permaban unbanned than 4 players that didn't deserve permaban banned.

One of the following could be implemented or at least encourage some better idea;

  1. Making a suspension punishment double each time the player is suspended.
  2. Permanent chat ban.
  3. Punish with a huge division drop.
  4. Real-life money fine for an unban and be way more strict towards the unbanned player.

Fully open to other suggestions and criticism.

~Kova

10 Comments

Chermorg9/20/2018, 12:58:18 PM3 votes

Do you not agree that someone who is not playing the game cannot negatively affect the community?

The point of punishments before a permanent ban is to encourage players to reform (or to begin to behave appropriately). The purpose of a permanent ban is to tell a player they are no longer welcomed by Riot to be a part of this community. Riot doesn’t want that type of player playing League, because a player who goes through all punishment tiers and gets permanently banned is a player with an attitude problem - the attitude being incompatible with League.

You claim many don’t deserve it, but they do. You don’t get infinite chances in life, and no, if you continually refuse to adapt to society’s standards, society will tell you to piss off.

Rat Męat9/20/2018, 1:23:44 PM1 votes

Agree with this. My main got permabanned because I had a bad day and got tilted. Riot perm banned me instantly.

mlm olo mlm9/20/2018, 1:24:05 PM1 votes

Get rid of the propaganda machine punishment system.

CharDeeMcDenniz9/20/2018, 1:33:02 PM1 votes

tl dr hindsight sucks

RyuChuChoo9/20/2018, 8:32:38 PM1 votes

I dont fully agree with some of the options, but as a player looking for becoming reformed after being hopped to a perma ban (slightly toxic but also parroted the 'F' word after being called it) I think instead of a perma, something like 6 months to a year. Seeing a perma-ban on my part made me feel like a terrible person, but was also blaming others. This made me not want to play for a while, and did not encourage me to reform. (although on the support ticket the second staff member helping me was very friendly and wished me luck on reform)

Some people think that a 14 day ban should tell you to stop being toxic, for me... and this was wrong, I saw it as just wait it out and continue on after (I did try to reform, slipping up one game caused my perma.)

Being told to move on create another account etc, Made me not want to try at all. Rather, if I got a 6 month I would feel what it was like to lose a account for a good amount of time and have all that time to work on my reform. This could be different for tons of people, some people will think 14 should be enough to understand not to be toxic.

Not sure, Maybe its because I didnt have the experience of chat restricted.

Kaioko9/20/2018, 8:55:02 PM1 votes

The only one of your possibilities that is maybe feasible would be the first one. The 3 others have more negative impacts than positive ones. Even then I'm not sure what good it is to continuously double a player's ban time.