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How Can You Accept Defeat Gracefully? And WTH is Happening to Riot?

RazgrizRevived·9/18/2017, 3:38:04 AM·3 votes·880 views

I don't really understand this concept. In sports and real fights, I never accepted defeat gracefully, I gritted my teeth and fought til I lost or if a fight, until i was beaten unconscious or couldn't move. How can anyone feel good about losing? I have never been such a way in my life, with one exception, when i sparred against my Kenpo teacher, but that was different for me. Maybe I am just not compatible with this game? It seems that maybe by design PVP games are a bad thing. Maybe even a cancer. To win a game in PVP, someone else has to lose. That means you must cause someone else to suffer for you to be able to win. Maybe I should stick to single player games, or games where I am allowed to quit at ANY time and not be penalized for it.

The fact you could get penalized for stopping to play a game is insane, what kind of sheltered fantasy world is that? It's just a game. Life is more important, maybe this game is taken way too seriously in that regard, because when you force me to play, I will try my hardest to win, and I will be very angry when I lose. Thus affecting my personal mood in a negative sense.

I'm not sure how things have changed, but ever since Riot Games was sold to that chinese company seems like policy has gotten alot worse.

This is a side note, but i have witnessed by friends get banned for no good reason, simply because they were reported enough. An example is my friend who played support Singed and took smite and stole all the enemy jungle camps in ranked. He won many games and people reported him for it. He got a 2 week ban.

I'm not sure this game ever had alot of integrity, as it serves children, and I personally do not think, based of character and lack of integrity and understanding, that children and adults should play the same game, if that game is taken in a serious manner. And clearly this one is. Because you can get banned for refusing to play. To me that just strikes me as someone is living in a sheltered reality where they don't have to worry about paying their bills and living a real life, and instead they are busy getting butthurt that people refuse to play.

I have gotten pissed at AFKs before, but I realized years ago how foolish it is. And it is the reason I refuse to play ranked anymore. So really, what the hell is happening to this game? And how can anyone accept defeat with grace?

Here's hoping the responses aren't just fanboys who worship Riot. Even though apparently the creators sold the company.

16 Comments

redniwediS9/18/2017, 3:42:47 AM2 votes

It's not about feeling good about losing, it's about recognizing when you cannot succeed and moving on. Sure, you can always keep going, but sometimes it's not worth the effort, and that's what the key is.

Chermorg9/18/2017, 3:44:21 AM2 votes

Coming from someone who's played multiple sports, I think you misunderstand what "gracious in defeat" means.

Being gracious doesn't mean you are happy about losing. It just means you're happy that you and the opponent got the chance to battle it out in whatever it is. You don't take your anger at the outcome out on your opponent. You signed up for the game/match knowing you may lose. For this reason, you cannot be surprised when it happens.

You don't take your anger at losing out on the team or the opponents. You take it in yourself and use that anger to get better.

Ambient Snow9/18/2017, 3:51:16 AM2 votes

I honestly have no problem accepting a graceful defeat. in fact I miss being able to honor the enemy team members for playing great so I usually say good job in game if they make a great play.

But man think the only times I'm a sore loser is when I lose cause I get trolled and the enemy team starts spamming GGEZ ugh.

but yea its just a growing of toxicity honestly and personally I point it to the smurf accounts that are causing it. Plat players coming in steam rolling lower account hen acting stuck up or giving lower accounts big ego's cause they feel empowered cause of it.

honestly its just sickening now how this community is going.

I know today I had to take a step back and quit for the season casue now that its end of season all the gold and Up players are hopping on their smurfs to either steam roll and get multiple accounts to gold and plat or just troll the lower rankings on smurf accounts.

god knows I've lost 2 games today due to troll teams
and this burst of Jungle ezreals. and so on.

uuuggggghhhhh

ModDaenrysTargaryen9/18/2017, 3:58:24 AM2 votes

While I Like Riot and enjoy What Riot makes ALOT, I do not consider myself a fanboy of riot, there is alot that riot does correct, there is some things that riot could do better, and there is a few things that riot is not good at, I can tell you right now that riot support is one of the best support i have ever seen. While people say riot match making is bad, i think its pretty good, there has never been a game where i thought the other team was Way Ahead. but when it comes to riot and the way they match make teams of 4, it is bad, because they some times do 2/2/1 or 3/2 against a team of 4/1.

on your stance of accepting defeat gracefully, riot is not telling you to give up as you are inferring when you say you do not give up until you are unconscious or can not move. riot means when you lose, do not be a poor sport about losing, you can think that it sucked that you lost, just don't say anything negative against your team or your opponents after losing

This game is a PVP game meaning one side is going to lose while the other team is going to win, i used to dislike pvp games but i endured because all my friends where playing them.

you can take this response however you like but I personally enjoy the game

YerroFever9/18/2017, 4:02:31 AM1 votes

To me, losing gracefully is an after the fact thing and not during.

You gave it 100% during the whole game and still lost.

At the end of the game, say good game and if you think they had any notable plays that you think really were amazing on the enemy team, feel free to acknowledge them and be a good sport.

Cocho9/18/2017, 4:38:22 AM1 votes

In competitions, after the game is over, you typically shake the other's team hands. A person can be upset how the game went, but at the same time enjoy having a good, quality, respectable game. The whole point in a competitive game imo is that its fun, that you can always strive to become better because there are always others that are better than you.

The competition is the fun part, without any competition, it wouldn't be as fun (for me at least). If this game couldn't get my competitive edge going, I would've stopped playing it.

A game I used to play alot was smash bros melee. I'd go to tournaments and play against others. You often have those close games where you lose on the 5th game, best of 5, and you're out. But people dont get mad or upset. You just do some type of handshake, say good game, and come back next week better to beat him.

Its not just about improving though, sometimes you gotta change your playstyle or goal depending on what your opponents are doing. You have to adapt to your opponents in any high level competitive game. Then they adapt to your adaptation, and so on. This is just so artificial in PvE games. Those games won't truly have this competitive aspect go deep enough.

(Granted it may not feel like it in some games when you're trying to climb, but) Over many games, if you're better than your opponents, you will climb and face better opponents.

tencent owned the most shares, they bought them out. They didnt sell the company in anyway, and basically the same people are still working there. Nothing changed here.

Sionata9/19/2017, 12:09:32 AM1 votes

Honoring an enemy for winning a game is the equivalent of being a cuck