Why do players in bronze - gold never gank?

pizzapants·12/21/2017, 2:43:12 AM·1 votes·914 views

I've noticed as a Riven main normally playing top that junglers don't gank. Even when you ping a bunch, ask a bunch, they never gank. So I decided to main jungle because everytime I do bad and try playing passive, the enemy jungler camps me. This wouldn't really matter if my team did something bot lane or got a drag but that usually doesn't happen meaning, they get free kills over and over again while I get no ganks which easily tilts me. So when I play jungle I gank, I play mostly well.

Whenever I get autofilled top or support my jungler never ganks. Why is that? Also, recently I played with a Lee who didn't gank my lane even when I asked since I was having trouble with Nasus. He never ganked even when I needed help and you know what? We lost because Nasus got out of control. Then my whole team accused me of inting because I kept dying to them lmao.

Any thoughts on this?

8 Comments

Deathbypie12/21/2017, 3:04:49 AM7 votes

Confirmation bias, honestly. You say no one ever ganks, and yet you get camped. I've played plenty of top, and yes it does FEEL that way. But really, plenty of games go by where neither visits top, or only your jungler does. It's just easier to dismiss those times because they aren't the ones that frustrate you.

DariusDemiurge12/21/2017, 3:11:51 AM2 votes

Jungle route they take dictates their ganks prioritize other lanes first.
Feeding your adc is currently priority number 1.
You're a riven main lol deserved, I wouldn't black shield you if it was just me and you alive.
Depends on the champ they are playing obviously.
Some people no matter the rank are clueless.
Random variables.

FOR JUSTICE12/21/2017, 3:32:45 AM2 votes

For one thing, as toplane youre just so isolated. Its not that they dont want to help you, its that its much more efficient to gank mid/bot, considering both are carry lanes and contain 80% of the team.

Dont think if it as they never want to help, think of it from their point of view:

Get 2/3 laners fed, or 1?

Then you also have to take into account the jungle route they took. If they started top, then you cant expect them to be available for a bit considering all the other farm they have is now on the lower side of the map

Telephone Booth12/21/2017, 2:54:19 AM2 votes

Not my typical experience. A jungler I would say normally ganks my lane 0-2 times per game. There are 3 lanes though, and like 4 jungles (kinda) so I don't expect many ganks usually. It does suck when you play a game, get a good jungler who ganks and wins your lane so you snowball, then play another and lose lane and your jungler never shows up once. Pretty frustrating, I hear you... but there's a lot of circumstance in this game.

Sometimes their jungle is invading and fucking with your jungler. Sometimes he's ganking every other lane except mine. Sometimes he ganks, fails, falls behind, and NEEDS to (not wants to, but literally needs to) farm up to be able to execute an effective gank again.

So really, I've had many games where jungler doesn't gank for me, but I've had many where they do. I don't play jungle, because everyone thinks that if you don't gank enough, you suck. But shit happens that you don't see. Shit like I mentioned above. So I try to go easy on the jungle and never blame him for anything. After all, if I get ganked and die, it's purely my fault. Has nothing to do with my own jungler. Have map awareness, keep track of enemy jungler, predict, ward, don't linger too long when you haven't seen the enemy jungle in a while, help your jungler when the enemy invades. These are skills I still need to work on because I'm just a shitty silver player. I'm much more critical of myself than I am of other players.

ModKnightsKemplar12/21/2017, 7:29:34 AM1 votes

Hey pizzapants,

I'm going to lock this thread because it's on the wrong sub-board! In the future, please make sure that you're putting things in the right place; this belongs on Gameplay because it's about the game or game mechanics. Player Behavior is for talking about punishments and other behavior systems.

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This Is Your Dad12/21/2017, 6:50:18 AM1 votes

As someone who likes playing jungle now, I think it stems from the fact that ganking isn't as straight forward as laning. Farm or gank, which lane, where should I be at any one time for a good gank. It's all those small things, and the focus of an enemy jungler ganking multiple lanes usually leaves all three lanes sour.

General Esdeath 12/21/2017, 7:04:33 AM1 votes

these ranks the jungler never ganks

the enemy jungler camps me

[sg-lux-2]

FullmuteAll play12/21/2017, 7:16:18 AM1 votes

My advice won't be about jungler, because pretty much enough was said. What you need to understand, that sometimes it is Okay to give up tower, thus you create for enemy toplaner a situation "push and die", of couse given you freeze. Because if he pushes as minimum he is easy to get ganked by jungler or midlaner. And if you have problems with enemy jungler visiting you, just don't push/trade, farming is your friend.