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After showing improved behavior over the past year, warnings from over a year ago led to a permaban

AzureSkiesMusic·9/19/2018, 4:39:46 AM·1 votes·2,727 views

I received multiple warnings about my behavior around a year ago. I heeded the warnings and changed my behavior for a few months afterward (muting argumentative players instead of engaging in toxicity, turning off all-chat, queuing with friends only to limit the need to communicate via text chat, etc). I eventually took a long break from the game after losing interest (recently started playing regularly again about 2 months ago, so it was probably a 6-8 month break) and continued where I left off in terms of improved behavior. Having completely forgot about my warnings because they were so long ago, I got into a few arguments in the past week where I used hostile language and have received a permanent ban on my account.

After a long period of showing reformed behavior, there was no soft reset on my tribunal standing (as you would expect for showing good behavior) and I was treated as if I had never improved my behavior at all.

Discussion points:

  • Should your account be on thin ice forever after receiving behavioral warnings?

  • Do you think reformed individuals should be treated with such skepticism by Riot that they are banned upon the first time they slip up? Do they deserve one more warning after demonstrating substantial improvement?

12 Comments

Telephone Booth9/19/2018, 4:41:58 AM4 votes

Yeah sure, but you cant just NOT PLAY and call that "improved behavior" lol. You have to display improved behavior for a while. I guess your 4 months or so of improved behavior wasnt enough. Meh.

TheUrbanKitsune9/19/2018, 4:44:09 AM4 votes

"I heeded the warnings and changed my behavior for a few months afterward"

"After a long period of showing reformed behavior"

I think the issue is not that your account is "on think ice forever" more that a few months really isn't THAT long.

I'm sorry to hear that you were trying to reform and ended up getting banned over one incident, but you were given multiple warnings as you said, and even so relapsed into that behavior. You could always make a new account and try to start fresh and keep up the good behavior, but there is no way Riot is giving your account back. :(

Imperial Pandaa9/19/2018, 5:10:47 AM3 votes

So, it is possible to go back down steps in the punishment tiers. There is no magic number or answer of the process though. We like to estimate about 3 months with 2 or 3 games a day. This would be displaying positive interaction "gj" "gg" "(insert tactical call)" or neutral interaction "(insert cricket noise for no talking)"

I mention both months and games to give the idea of roughly 300 games. The number of months doesn't matter. So taking information from OP; you got punished, took a break, and have been playing again for 2 months. So one way to look at it is you had the punishment and then paused the game. Nothing happened to your account/game during that pause time.

Sorry.

mlm olo mlm9/19/2018, 6:44:02 AM2 votes

I really don't like the escalation. Lumping all offenses together to result in permanent bans is inhumane.

Darth Sucadic 9/19/2018, 5:02:18 AM1 votes

Trying to reform for a broken system that protects trolls and bans real players for retaliating is a complete waste of time. Just flame all you want at the bitches who destroy your game, then make a new account right after.

Kei1439/19/2018, 11:29:11 AM1 votes

Your account's behavior level decays upon games played. Think of it like the tension meter in music games, if you paused the game midway, that meter stays at the same position until you play the game again.

So that 6-8 month break showed nothing to the behavioral system that you've reformed. Especially when you go back to your old behavior after you came back.