Banned for "negative language"

IAmYourOnlyGod··1 votes·1,138 views

Preface This is no appeal for pity, outrage, or discontent... I am simply making a thread showcasing my perspective. League of Legends has the complete right to make any decision with "our" accounts they choose.
I have played League of Legends for most of a decade, I was Bronze in season 2 and Plat by season 4 and have maintained playing the game more casually since. The system has certainly become far more hostile against negative attitudes and speech, this is to the point that I, a player or nearing ten-years has recently received a permanent ban. My account has little to no leaves in the entire time I have played the game, speaking of thousands of games and possibly one intentional-leaves several years prior. I never in-game grief, leave, or threaten, though I do find that this was almost widely accepted as part of the game in past years.
My primary gripe with my ban. The reason I was banned is purely based around my verbal treatment of a master Yi and potentially more individuals prior, none of these individuals muted me. By no means did this players take any form of action to stop my verbal treatment yet would rather envoke consequences against me manipulating the report system, which is by indefinite means far more harmful than my words. I called a Yi a "farm whore" and called him out as someone who "suicides, constantly" (he was 1-12-3 by the end of the game). At any point who could completely negate my negative impact upon him by muting me and would face no consequences for doing so.
Why I think this is poor and harsh practice All of my negative impacts could be completely negated by the already in-game mute button. You can argue that this allows for me to make individuals tilt initially, though I can argue their poor play prompts my tilting. Maybe I am verbally toxic, why not permanently mute me before you ban my account? Well... the reply I got was, some of the players they gave permanent mute would troll in other manners. The issue is, I have no history of expressing my anger through anything but text. Installing a system which allows individuals who have no previous altercations with the ToS i.e. leaving, griefing, inting, etc... Are placed in indefinite mute, this would allow for those players who do not cause in-game issues to be allowed to play the game. The Actual Outcome as of Now As of now, I am forced to play with lacking players on a smurf account to eventually make it to the same state as my main account. This is most likely the case for many players banned. The poor skill of the players I am "forced" to play with will most likely prompt me to be far more agitated. This is due to the removal of my MMR which I cannot truly reobtain till lv 30 or higher. The outcome is I get turned further towards toxicity and League of Legends potentially loses another player.
Thanks for your time, I remind that this isn't an appeal to pity or to envoke anger, just a "viewpoint" from someone that you do not have to read, if you do not want to... Thanks again.

9 Comments

Chermorg6 votes

The reason I banned was purely based around my verbal treatment of a master Yi and potentially more individuals prior, none of these individuals muted me. By no means did this players take any form of action to stop my verbal treatment yet would rather envoke consequences against me manipulating the report system,

Players should not be required to mute someone to avoid toxicity. You cannot blame the victim of toxicity for the other player being toxic. Further, even if they didn't mute you, they report you so no other player ever has to mute you in the future, and that's their right regardless of if they muted you or not.

the reply I got was, some of the players they gave permanent mute would troll in other manners.

It wasn't "some". It was a vast majority (well over 50%) resorted to "soft trolling" in manners that, upon extensive review, were obvious, but if many accounts had the opportunity to do would be impossible to police. Think of it - when you don't want to be toxic in chat, what do most players do? They spam ping. They'll run backwards. They'll leave a fight early. They'll do things they know are wrong with the intent to fuck with their team to make themselves feel better. You may think you wouldn't - but nobody can prove that - and statistics say there's a better chance you would than you wouldn't.

IAmYourOnlyGod1 votes

I am not trying to be aggressive, I believe I made that clear. Your viewing of people who got banned for poor language seems rather harsh within itself. So if statistics dictate the complete treatment of individuals, why is this not applied to other systems? The statistics deem it fit, means that outliers are completely damned for the majority. "you may think you wouldn't - but nobody can prove that - and statistics say there's a better chance you would than you wouldn't." you are right, nobody can prove that, <3. Also, "well over 50%" somewhat weak citing, and then again "soft" trolling, another none-defined term. So a number over 50%, performed some level of "soft" trolling? What does that mean to me

Thank you for the feedback.

Baval2 votes

Oooh so scary, you might get more toxic

....and then get banned again.

......and if it keeps happening get IP banned.

In fact this forum post shows a clear intent to not change, making it more likely for it to happen.

Im sure Ritos shaking in their boots at your "threat"

IAmYourOnlyGod1 votes

By no means is that a threat. "The poor skill of the players I am "forced" to play with will most likely prompt me to be far more agitated." Displays zero intent, I simply wrote, agitated... You cannot infer my intent by me, admitting, what agitates me. I did say turn me towards it, though this doesn't mean that I am going to consitently cause issues or whether or not if I will play the game... But if you believe this isn't a potential outcome of banning players, then you are oblivious to the reality of the situation.

Baval5 votes

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Preface This is no appeal for pity, outrage, or discontent... I am simply making a threat showcasing my perspective.

You were saying?

IAmYourOnlyGod1 votes

Its a typo lol It was intended to say, "thread"

Baval2 votes

Fair enough. It doesnt change my stance though. Instead of telling Riot that you being toxic is the victims fault and that getting punished will probably make you more toxic you should learn from your mistake and try to correct your own incorrect behavior, which even you recognize as incorrect.

And still stating that you will likely be toxic in the future doesnt show any intent to reform and is likely to make it more likely for you to get banned in the future.

Frankly if you yourself believe that your behavior is only going to get worse over time I dont want to play with you and support Riots decision. There are relatively bad players in every elo and you wont ever escape players "not on your level" so if thats whats going to cause an escalating response in you then you should not be allowed to play the game and make other peoples experience worse.

IAmYourOnlyGod1 votes

It's not in reference to time. It was in reference to forcing me around players who don't understand how to play, that's all. I'm not sure if I'll continue to play the game. The general theme is that they become more and more strict as time passes, I have actually become far tamer than I would consider myself years prior.
Thanks for the post.

P4ppino1 votes

Permanent mute doesn't work, they tried it. Also, if you can't control yourself to the point where you need a permanent mute just to not be toxic, just don't play at all then.

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