the punishement system after the honor rework is completely exagerated

EsthervHtI·6/17/2019, 12:59:10 AM·1 votes·1,931 views

now i used to only get chat restricted for 10 games at most every few months,why?cuz i would say to bad players that they are bad.now after the rework even the smallest flame can be counted and enough of them and u get permabanned.there is not a single system ina game,sports where that exist,the other games only ban ppl who hate speech(which im totally for).but riot and also ppl who say ppl like me deserve it dont understand that ranked league is a competitive environnement.ppl like me care about ranking up and th trigger to us flaming is simply some one who clearly dosnt share the same drive who clearly underperforms out of pure lazyness.because unlike sports, ppl can join in soloq anytime they want and they can treat it as they wish,so a lot of ppl who dont care and who just play rank for fun instead of normals cuz the games quality are better ruins other ppl experience.because whena bot lane goes 0-12 in a 2v2 that means they refuse to learn from their mistakes and continue to do the same because as i said,they dont care,since this is ranked and it affects other ppl,these players should be ready to receive some kind of negative feed back,if that turns them off from ranked ,good.they dont deserve to be in that place to begin with,this new system makes me think about how the world is becoming, where everything is offensive and no one can handle anything themselves and are feeling attacked,or schools who now give everyone participation throphy so bad participants dont feel bad about losing instead of celebrating the winners and making ppl feel like they need to work hard to achieve the same,now bad players think its okay to be bad and ppl who negativly outlash them are in the wrong even tho if u were a really bad player in any competitive sports all ur teammates would say that ur trash and u would get benched and eventualy kicked out of the team

19 Comments

Kei1436/17/2019, 1:04:35 AM10 votes

Ummm ... the honors program didn't change the punishment system at all.

The rest, tldr. I ain't reading that block of text.

Umbral Regent6/17/2019, 1:27:06 AM6 votes

now i used to only get chat restricted for 10 games at most every few months,why?cuz i would say to bad players that they are bad.now after the rework even the smallest flame can be counted and enough of them and u get permabanned.

It's more probable that you're simply lashing out and flaming other players more frequently than it is that the system has been overtuned. If you got permanently banned, then that's an indicator that you've been consistently negative enough to warrant such a harsh punishment; ignoring however many semi-monthly chat restrictions you've had prior, you'd still have to have climbed through all three punishment tiers prior to warrant a permanent ban.

there is not a single system ina game,sports where that exist,the other games only ban ppl who hate speech(which im totally for).

IIRC, there are ample sports where players have been penalized, and even kicked off of teams, for misbehavior and aggression against other players. I know one of the Moderators - Prandine, if my memory serves - has a link to a number of cited punishments in various sports.

Either way, it'd be unrealistic for any sport to only ever punish for hate speech. Unsportsmanlike conduct, as the name would imply, has no place in sports.

but riot and also ppl who say ppl like me deserve it dont understand that ranked league is a competitive environnement.

It's not that we don't understand that Ranked is a competitive environment, it's that you don't understand that it being a competitive environment doesn't give you the liberty to flame and harass players. You're expected to compose yourself better and strive for the win in a competitive environment, not tear down your teammates and lash out.

ppl like me care about ranking up and th trigger to us flaming is simply some one who clearly dosnt share the same drive who clearly underperforms out of pure lazyness.

You don't know the reason they're underperforming. You don't know if they have the same drive as you do to win. And frankly, if you're apt to flame people who underperform, then you can't say that you have a drive to win - you don't win by fighting your own teammates.

because unlike sports, ppl can join in soloq anytime they want and they can treat it as they wish,so a lot of ppl who dont care and who just play rank for fun instead of normals cuz the games quality are better ruins other ppl experience.

Again; you don't know why people do what they do. How do you know that they don't care to climb? Are they explicitly stating it, or do you just assume that they don't care because they're getting their asses handed to them?

And, even if Ranked is supposed to be a competitive mode, the game is still meant to be played for fun. If you don't like that, then unfortunately, you just have to deal with it. It's a game, not a job.

because whena bot lane goes 0-12 in a 2v2 that means they refuse to learn from their mistakes and continue to do the same because as i said,they dont care...

Do you think flaming them is going to make them play better? 'Cause it's not going to. It'll only make them play worse, and then you're becoming part of the very problem you're flaming them for.

...these players should be ready to receive some kind of negative feed back,if that turns them off from ranked ,good.

And if you decide that you should be the one to give them "negative feedback" through flaming, then you should be ready to receive some kind of punishment.

You don't get to flame players, no matter how poorly they perform or how much you think your flame is justified.


The last section of your wall of text is primarily just rambling, with the assertion that sports teams would straight up harass and insult players who don't perform well. I'm sincerely doubtful that that's true, since, again; competitive sports requires a degree of composure and sportsmanlike conduct, and being an asshole to weak links isn't conducive to that composure.

R107 Games6/17/2019, 1:05:16 AM2 votes

Yep. The IFS has gotten strict to appease the sensetive portion of the playerbase

SunkySam6/17/2019, 1:08:12 AM1 votes

Well if you want to point out the problems that your teammates are having, and the punishment system is apparently not being nice to you, then you can work to learn how to help your teammates. It sounds like you are toxic towards them, and if you are not then I would love to see an example of you calling someone out. But tell them what exactly they are doing wrong and how they could fix their issues, rather than flaming. I'm just going to say this because it applies to me, but it may apply to other people, you do worse when you are shamed upon.

ImEzrealAsItGetz6/17/2019, 8:42:51 AM1 votes

riot decided to dedicate all their resources to allowing trolls to ruin as many peoples experiences as possible so to trigger them and then gaslight them with silly bans and the same dozen fanboys circle jerking riot on the forums. no idea why but considering literally the entirety of the game is based off the occult it doesn't surprise me. i got hacked within 3 days after a 3 year break then falsely permad. its a joke