League of Offended Tattle Tales

Noncarer··3 votes·2,460 views

I have been playing League of Legends since Season One. I have played the game on and off since it's release in 2009 and recently my account Noncarer was permabanned by Riot for being reported for typing bad no-no words on a virtual computer game in chat. Throughout my time playing League of Legends I noticed a gradual decrease in fun that was inversely proportional to the increasing levels of "moderation" and community enforcement measures that were implemented. Video_games_ are an entertainment medium that are designed to be enjoyed as an escape from the stresses and responsibilities of real life. The tribunal system and terms of agreement that Riot enforces equate to what is essentially an oversensitive censorship campaign that fosters a cult mentality of politically correct hugboxing and backpatting that ends up destroying any form of creative fun or expression from the game. When I first began playing League of Legends chat was not an Orwellian monitored North Korean newspaper. Games like Counter Strike, Dota 2 and H1z1 don't place the same limitations on players and still enjoy a health and active playerbase and community. Suspensions and bans on these games are essentially only ever warranted through cheating or griefing intentionally in ranked matchmaking. The fact that chat restrictions result in suspensions and bans is a direct reflection of some misguided belief that in this world you have a right to not be confronted or offended. As League continues to ban more players for an ever increasing margin of perceived "toxicity" and the playerbase grows tired of making new accounts maybe Riot will remember the purpose of their game and rethink their childish and overbearing community guidelines.

I'm sure many people have watched Dunkey's video where he announced that he was quitting League of Legends due to the frustrating and punishing aspects of League of Legends childish rules. The League of Legends business model is the most cancerous and intentionally manipulative model that exists within high population multiplayer games. The terms of agreement and "community guidelines" that the game enforces are essentially a leveraging tool to graft more sales from a recidivist customer base. By being over zealous with their speech restricting mind police rule set they are able to obtain sales from secondary accounts and skin repurchases.

P.S. I'm sure Riot will delete this post immediately and I will be sentenced to 15 years hard labor in an SJW sensitivity rededucation gulag.

54 Comments

Sakaru19 votes

" Videogames are an entertainment medium that are designed to be enjoyed as an escape from the stresses and responsibilities of real life. "

Correct. Which is why people like you get banned. For ruining the enjoyment of others, and causing their games to be more stressful.

leaugesbane4 votes

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" Videogames are an entertainment medium that are designed to be enjoyed as an escape from the stresses and responsibilities of real life. "

Correct. Which is why people like you get banned. For ruining the enjoyment of others, and causing their games to be more stressful.

you mean like feeders and afks and trolls which are hardly as focused as chat related issues....

oh wait forgot lyte snepai is perfect.....

DrCyanide9 votes

I feel like no one that brings up "trolls and feeders aren't punished" understands the technology involved.

Natural Language Processing is established technology that is being sold to every industry, from video games to medical technology. As such, Riot can/could/did basically go out and buy most of what it took to make an automated language ban system, just making some comparatively small tweeks to get it up and running for League. It still took years to get to where it is today from when it was stated

There's no counterpart for feeders and trolls. It's a problem that only exists for video games, and it varies from game to game. The way you troll someone in Minecraft is very different than how you troll someone in League. Anything they build for this has to be completely built from scratch, and that will take longer.

Riot does have a basic troll detector they've mentioned and showed a handful of times, but they don't trust it enough yet. Just as they slowly made the chat system harsher as they were more and more confident, they'll apply the same principles with this one.

As for why they didn't start with feeder/troll detection, marketing's the answer there. League isn't known as the game with the most trolls or the most feeders, it's known as the most toxic. That image would be a deterrent to new players, so with the easier tech path and more bang for their buck of course they started with language.

Noncarer2 votes

I pray every night that when Trump becomes prez, Halo 2 comes back and all the cry baby SJW thick rimmed glasses flannel shirt wearing iphone toting civil rights activists who found out about videogames from their LGBT tumblr page are btfo back to the shadow realm. If you use the word troll seriously in the year 2016 I would strongly recommend moving into cucksville Public Housing with Bernie

Nik Nikerson1 votes

Say hi to everyone on /pol/ for me.

leaugesbane2 votes

{quoted}

I feel like no one that brings up "trolls and feeders aren't punished" understands the technology involved.

Natural Language Processing is established technology that is being sold to every industry, from video games to medical technology. As such, Riot can/could/did basically go out and buy most of what it took to make an automated language ban system, just making some comparatively small tweeks to get it up and running for League. It still took years to get to where it is today from when it was stated

There's no counterpart for feeders and trolls. It's a problem that only exists for video games, and it varies from game to game. The way you troll someone in Minecraft is very different than how you troll someone in League. Anything they build for this has to be completely built from scratch, and that will take longer.

Riot does have a basic troll detector they've mentioned and showed a handful of times, but they don't trust it enough yet. Just as they slowly made the chat system harsher as they were more and more confident, they'll apply the same principles with this one.

As for why they didn't start with feeder/troll detection, marketing's the answer there. League isn't known as the game with the most trolls or the most feeders, it's known as the most toxic. That image would be a deterrent to new players, so with the easier tech path and more bang for their buck of course they started with language.

wait wait wait hold on back up.

feeding and trolling isnt toxic? am i not suing that word right or are you just on drugs/out of your mind. also you dont say........ noo chat being easy? like the tribunal they had no replacement for but took down? according to what ive heard they took tribunal down and for half a year the game went rampant with toxicity incidentally that was around when my friend started....

did it ever occur to you that LoL players and lyte who live in there own separate non reality based universe? that the chat is lower on the list then game integrity for well most if not all gamers? not saying abuse is acceptable im saying things like ping and such should have been far higher on the list and werent my freind quit like 4 months after the ping in our area dropped from the east coast 140 ping to 72? i think maybe a little lower for ping after the damage has already been done cause of it.

hes given me plenty of reasons to distrust/ignore everything from lyte to the players. and while this i one game and a bots game its clear he was right

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2143960325/231491260?tab=overview

im not saying im good im saying at a certain point you have to realize these systems have failed and that if i had said anything about them feeding as critsism id have been reported and chat restricted.

my commits this game where limited to

  • thanks fiddle mundos standing there aa/feeding becuase you forced him outta mid and he cant cs top cuase im ahead.
  • i cant becuase of the feeding.
  • cant.

i had a support item that link is there and guess what. if there was a replay function hello!!! 7years later..... id have video showing the afk for the entire first wave fiddle who "called" mid in a bots.. game

its bots just goto lane and end the game asap from what i could see no one was a smurf and no one asked for help...guess what id have been toxic if i dared offered tips cause clearly my friend gave me a good explanation with good tips and two of the tips where "never ever give advice less asked for it." "only give your opinion once and then never say it again if you get a unjust ban for simply stating your opinion once ill dig the stupid support ticket out for you."

ill finish with his Warning about games like this which are mild and genuinely toxic players happening in bots was true.....

alasarcher5 votes

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wait wait wait hold on back up.

feeding and trolling isnt toxic? am i not suing that word right or are you just on drugs/out of your mind. also you dont say........ noo chat being easy? like the tribunal they had no replacement for but took down? according to what ive heard they took tribunal down and for half a year the game went rampant with toxicity incidentally that was around when my friend started....

did it ever occur to you that LoL players and lyte who live in there own separate non reality based universe? that the chat is lower on the list then game integrity for well most if not all gamers? not saying abuse is acceptable im saying things like ping and such should have been far higher on the list and werent my freind quit like 4 months after the ping in our area dropped from the east coast 140 ping to 72? i think maybe a little lower for ping after the damage has already been done cause of it.

hes given me plenty of reasons to distrust/ignore everything from lyte to the players. and while this i one game and a bots game its clear he was right

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2143960325/231491260?tab=overview

im not saying im good im saying at a certain point you have to realize these systems have failed and that if i had said anything about them feeding as critsism id have been reported and chat restricted.

my commits this game where limited to

  • thanks fiddle mundos standing there aa/feeding becuase you forced him outta mid and he cant cs top cuase im ahead.
  • i cant becuase of the feeding.
  • cant.

i had a support item that link is there and guess what. if there was a replay function hello!!! 7years later..... id have video showing the afk for the entire first wave fiddle who "called" mid in a bots.. game

its bots just goto lane and end the game asap from what i could see no one was a smurf and no one asked for help...guess what id have been toxic if i dared offered tips cause clearly my friend gave me a good explanation with good tips and two of the tips where "never ever give advice less asked for it." "only give your opinion once and then never say it again if you get a unjust ban for simply stating your opinion once ill dig the stupid support ticket out for you."

ill finish with his Warning about games like this which are mild and genuinely toxic players happening in bots was true.....

Feeding is not toxic. Feeding is normal part of this game, mostly occurs when your lane opponent is much better than you. There is certain thing called intentional feeding, which is toxic. But its not that common. But people tend to call everyone with negative score "intentional feeder". Everyone feeds at some point.

Noncarer2 votes

Reported for self centered spectrum IV narcistic irresponsibility and blatant microaggression: "people like you". As a white male adult who identifies as an offended cry baby I take a severe offense to your transgression and now consider myself as triggered.

mccoll4 votes

Wow another psychology major is a proponent of corporate propagada, sounds like this guy has a job handing out Risperdal for all behavior it sees unfit for a fascist society.

Noncarer2 votes

Be careful with your passive aggressive observations and critiques. I have already been triggered once. As a young child I was subjected to severe mental abuse of the same nature by my uncle Ryze and I eventually reported him and to this day I feel no remorse.

mccoll5 votes

There was no critique in my statement. buh bye.

Noncarer2 votes

Victim blaming. (Trigged and repotted.)

ModWulf Helhammer11 votes

Chat logs or nothing you say means a damn. (Not that there is a good chance of it meaning anything anyway, judging your post)

Noncarer2 votes

Reported for blatant disrespect, swearing, passive aggressiveness, various microaggressions, toxicity and misuse of paranthetical digression.

mccoll5 votes

This guy sounds like PC principal from South Park.

Nik Nikerson9 votes

Here's a conversation I had with my 12-year old niece a few weeks ago:

Niece: My teacher is such a jerk. She gave me lunch detention for no reason. Me: No reason at all? Niece: Yeah. I wasn't doing anything. Me: What did she say you were doing? Niece: Talking in class. Me: Were you talking in class? Niece: Yeah, but it's totally not fair. Me: Did she tell you to stop before? Niece: Yeah... Me: So what you're saying is, your teacher is a jerk for enforcing the rules that were explained to you, and you refused to follow? Niece: But- Me: Stop.

Do you see the parallels here?

Regardless of whether or not you agree with Riot's policies, I'm assuming you knew what would happen if you kept typing those "bad no-no words". And yet you kept doing it, knowing full well what Riot's policy was. So what exactly is your excuse for doing something you were warned not to do anymore?

Noncarer1 votes

Do you hang out with your 12 year old niece a lot?

Nik Nikerson1 votes

Yeah, I do. That's what you do when you're helping to raise a kid after their parent dies. Do your parents just ignore you or something?

EvilDustMan7 votes

U mad?

Noncarer1 votes

I have told riot along with my mom and dad about your wanton and reckless troling. I hope you have the time to reflect on your blatant toxicity, negativity during ur ban and their impacts on your fellow summoners

EvilDustMan7 votes

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I have told riot along with my mom and dad about your wanton and reckless troling. I hope you have the time to reflect on your blatant toxicity, negativity during ur ban and their impacts on your fellow summoners

He mad.

Noncarer1 votes

Seriously knock it off, this is your last warning before I click the report button on my computer screen and submit a virtual complaint that may negatively effect your online cyber profile.

EvilDustMan7 votes

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Seriously knock it off, this is your last warning before I click the report button on my computer screen and submit a virtual complaint that may negatively effect your online cyber profile.

He so mad. Banned mad.

Anomander4 votes

I love how toxic people blame those they were toxic to...............................

Noncarer2 votes

muh community

alasarcher7 votes

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muh community

If i may ask, why are you here? U obviously dont like riot, matchmaking and ranked system, balace in game, community, rules and punishing system. Whats the point? Is your life so void and unfulfiling that only thing that keeps u going is torturing yourself doing something u hate and then complaining about it? U talk aboit dunkey? Go ob, make complaint video on youtube, quit and move to another game tha you will actually enjoy. This is free to play game, and there is nothing holding you here and there are many other free games, im sure u can find one that u will enjoy. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Noncarer2 votes

Hows the job hunt going?

alasarcher4 votes

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Hows the job hunt going?

Excuse me?

Ozag the Mighty3 votes

Snap the enter key off keyboard while playing league...solves all your toxic problems...as for trolls and feeders ignore them, mute them and just play the game I've said it in plenty of threads...its the internet, atop taking what people type on a screen so personal and just ignore it and play your best.

The problem isn't the community because it's full of toxicity, the only way to stop YOURSELF from being banned is just /muteall and communicate with Pings...if your teammates are to...uhh...well...stupid to understand the pings that's on them.

To end...its a game, nothing more, a video game put out here for people to enjoy, if you aren't enjoying it, then it's obviously not for you.

Noncarer1 votes

Does the Riot damage control shill post team have benefits and stock options?

Ozag the Mighty2 votes

Just from your posts on the forums against people telling you what you did wrong you deserve what ya got, it's your own fault. Your just like every other kid in today's generation you think the world revolves around you and your self-entitlement thinking your a god among men, your not.

We don't need your chat logs to show us how toxic you are. Maybe look at yourself before going on and blaming everything on everyone else.

Grow up is all I gotta say.

It's a game don't play it like I said it's obviously not for you.

Noncarer1 votes

Can you tell me about WWII grandpa?

Awkward Couch3 votes

Throughout my time playing League of Legends I noticed a gradual decrease in fun that was inversely proportional to the increasing levels of "moderation" and community enforcement measures that were implemented.

I've also been playing since S1, and though it wasn't at release, I've still had this account for over 5 years. In that time, I've "quit League for good" more than once, it had nothing to do with the game itself, it was with the community and how toxic it was. Honestly, since the instant feedback system went online in August, I've reported maybe 25 people. Back in S2 when I played almost daily, I was reporting 5 people a night (in a span of about 3-4 games). I've been reporting people less since, well, people are a lot less toxic then they were in S1-5.

Videogames are an entertainment medium that are designed to be enjoyed as an escape from the stresses and responsibilities of real life.

I absolutely agree with you there. So why should my game be ruined by someone telling me to "drink bleach like the flying fucking Fa**** that you are and have your mom watch so she can be less disappointed in her son" (actual quote from an actual game). The quote that I shared with you is not an escape from stress or responsibility what so ever. And quite frankly, there is no reason for anyone to say something like that.

The tribunal system and terms of agreement that Riot enforces equate to what is essentially an oversensitive censorship campaign that fosters a cult mentality of politically correct hugboxing and backpatting that ends up destroying any form of creative fun or expression from the game. When I first began playing League of Legends chat was not an Orwellian monitored North Korean newspaper.

I disagree with you here. Just as what you say at school or work or whatever you do in your life outside of video games, has consequences. Just because you have anonymity on the internet, doesn't mean you get a free pass to say whatever you want to say within a community that has rules. There are other places where you can say what you want with no mods, no filters whatever, and if you chose to go there, more power to you. In this community however, there are rules put into place, and if you do not follow these rules you will get punished.

As far as saying there is no form of creative fun or expression from the game, again I have to disagree with you completely. There are plenty ways to be creative in this game, look at SivHD. He has made a lot of fun experiments in League without being toxic. Go into the Concepts and Creations page or the Story Art and Sound page, there is tons of creativity.

Games like Counter Strike, Dota 2 and H1z1 don't place the same limitations on players and still enjoy a health and active playerbase and community.

CSGO Dota2 H1Z1 all have one thing in common, the reputation of an inherently horrible toxic community. While I've had my struggles in each one (especially CSGO) these games weren't known inherently for their toxic community, League was and still is. All three of these communities are also not as big as League is, that's another contributing factor.

Suspensions and bans on these games are essentially only ever warranted through cheating or griefing intentionally in ranked matchmaking.

While that may be true for some, the vast majority of those who are permabanned usually quit.

The fact that chat restrictions result in suspensions and bans is a direct reflection of some misguided belief that in this world you have a right to not be confronted or offended.

I see several problems with this argument. The first is, the large assumption that people have the right not to be confronted or offended. No one is saying that what so ever, and as such their actions will have consequences.

The second problem with this argument is that with the assumption that you put into place, you are placing yourself as the God of League telling people what to do and what not to do. Why is that your responsibility?

The final problem (which I have already touched on) is the assumption that you make that what someone says in chat should have no consequences. This has been laid out by Riot and the community as being wrong.

As League continues to ban more players for an ever increasing margin of perceived "toxicity" and the playerbase grows tired of making new accounts maybe Riot will remember the purpose of their game and rethink their childish and overbearing community guidelines.

I've had this account since S1 and I've never had any chat restrictions or warnings. The fact that when you go onto twitch, the most watched game is League, and how big esports are getting, I have to disagree with you.

I'm sure many people have watched Dunkey's video where he announced that he was quitting League of Legends due to the frustrating and punishing aspects of League of Legends childish rules.

That's his choice. You can agree with Dunkey all you want, the fact remains that he was banned. If I had him in my games, I would have reported him. But that's just me.

The League of Legends business model is the most cancerous and intentionally manipulative model that exists within high population multiplayer games.

I completely disagree, I think CSGO is way worse in the manipulative model. Just because you don't think that players who are toxic shouldn't be banned, doesn't mean that Riot has a cancerous business model.

The terms of agreement and "community guidelines" that the game enforces are essentially a leveraging tool to graft more sales from a recidivist customer base. By being over zealous with their speech restricting mind police rule set they are able to obtain sales from secondary accounts and skin repurchases.

You can not spend a dime on this game and Riot will not care. Buying skins or boosts will not get you anywhere in this game. If Riot really wanted to be a cash cow, League would be a monthly subscription rate.

Noncarer1 votes

lol you actually thought people would read this as you typed it

Awkward Couch1 votes

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lol you actually thought people would read this as you typed it

Excellent rebuttal, can't argue with that logic.

Lanthanotus1 votes

I did and I'm sure may others did also.

Astôlfo3 votes

Oh look, the garbage truck has come by again.

FloweyTheFlower2 votes

Cx games are so sensitive nowadays

Troll Armada2 votes

I kind of agree with you. I do think there is/was a problem with in game negativity, but...

Regardless of the merits of your arguments with regards to prioritization, and putting verbal abuse into perspective, (compared to the actual gameplay abuse I and others suffer every other game in terms of griefing, intentional feeding, botting, etc...)

....knowing that Riot is now serious about this, and has repeatedly stated and restated through various outlets that it's not going to be tolerated anymore, why would you continue this behavior?

Shadragon1 votes

Go back to /lolg/ and cry about how muh feminazis are ruinin muh video games over there. If you're lucky, someone might respond with an anime reaction image.

Noncarer2 votes

REporTed!!!11

Shadragon2 votes

( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)

Noncarer2 votes

I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Tribunal Professionally Offended Brigade and have successfully corrected over 300 misuses of white male patriarchal oppression and corresponding microaggressions on summoner's rift. You have no idea the sh*tstorm ur little meme has unleashed maggot. Kiss ur skins goodbye. (P.S. Don't tell my dad)

Shadragon3 votes

Well fuck, can't argue with that. Guess I'd better get used to using default skins then, huh?

Noncarer2 votes

I cannot wait for Trump. We smiles now boys.

Kei1431 votes

duneky is teh god, dunkey is teh shitzzles we should all listen to.

hail dunkeh.

the only thing remaining is for dunkey to become a teemo main.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Man. This is the worst April Fool's day post. You sound too realistic.

DartExplosion101 votes

I'm sure Riot will delete this post immediately and I will be sentenced to 15 years hard labor in an SJW sensitivity rededucation gulag.

lmfao

lolptwo1 votes

I found another Trump voter. don't worry everyone just ignore them and after this little fiasco they will all crawl back into their holes.

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