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A "Short" Talk About Toxicity

ModWuks··19 votes·5,033 views

I just wrapped up a match that was supposed to be fun; it was a normals match, it was a premade of 5, we were thinking of different skin compositions we could use and ended up using a Yordle composition, and we were all in Skype. Things were off to an okay start; however, clear skies would not last long. As one of the players performed not too well, she began saying things in Skype and typing things into our team chat along the lines of "I'm done. I can't do this anymore."

Yes. I've been in situations where I've played not too well either. 0/8 Vladimir mid? I've done it. But what I haven't done is give up. Despite how poorly I'm doing, even if I'm being dove repeatedly by Jax, Renekton, or Irelia top, I don't give up.

There are a few things that players should know about this game:

  1. This game is a lot more fun when you're not negative. Being negative, especially to your own team, doesn't make anyone's time better, nonetheless your own. Just enjoy the game, and if you're not having as good of a time as you'd like, try not to bring down the experience for your teammates (especially if you're in Skype with them and friends with some of them).
  2. Play as though there's a chance for a comeback because, well, there is.
  3. It's just a prank game, bruh! Sometime over the past 2 years, I've come to realize that my negativity led to me not enjoying the game as much as well as making myself less enjoyable of a friend to play with. Since then, I've limited myself to only saying neutral or positive things in chat [ sometimes I'll trash talk my team over Skype :^) ].

A loss is frustrating if you let it be frustrating. Or you can make the best of every experience that you have in this game. I love playing with friends and formulating cool skin and team compositions, and it's all the better when they work! Regardless of whether I'm with 4 other random players, in duo queue, or with a premade of 5, never will I ever create a toxic environment for my teammates because what is even the point?

Thanks, and have a good one ;)

46 Comments

MrWasjig8 votes

Token explanation of not losing your shit? Check!

Telling people to suppress emotion is like telling grass to stop being green. The cause is noble but you'll get more success knocking down a brick wall by beating it with your bare fists.

ModWuks7 votes

I never said to suppress emotion, as a matter of fact, I mentioned there are some times where I'll "trash talk" the enemy team over Skype. However, what I don't do is let it affect other players in a negative way, so I'm not going to /all chat "This midlaner's bad".

DeynaTaggerung3 votes

It's less about suppressing emotion and more about not letting it affect the way you speak to other people. Feel free to explore the depth and breadth of your emotions, but you need to find another way to outlet them than saying mean things to people

duludem3334 votes

i thought this was going to be a thread about Cassiopeia Fizz Twitch Teemo Singed

Itadaki Seieki1 votes

Full toxic team time?

Hello I am Bird1 votes

I love the fizz sprinkled in there.

Like nobody would notice xP

duludem3331 votes

doesnt fizz have poison of some sort on his w maybe im wrong

Hello I am Bird1 votes

I don't think its a poison but it is a dot on his w, yes :)

duludem3331 votes

thanks for the clarification at least fizz is toxic anyways haha

RiotRiot Whiskies4 votes

Aww. I like you. ~ヾ(＾∇＾)

Thanks for your optimism. I feel like these are the things that are very often 'duhhh' logical to many of us, but definitely much easier said than done. It's good to hear them brought up every now and again for the reminder.

ModWuks3 votes

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QOXXhpbJywU/VfDpRvkyZhI/AAAAAAAAAcY/cA8nKjORDaE/s1600/Sending-Virtual-Hug.gif

Always a pleasure :3 I was a Toxic Timmy at one point, but a lot of my friends have been pretty good on keeping me positive, like my friend Tim who always starts off the game with "Good luck and have fun~!" Support networks definitely make things a lot easier!

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

(istilldontgetwhatusingatildeasponctuationissupposedtomean) Edit: wow why the downvotes, I really have no idea why people use it. For me, it's just the thing that makes "n" become "nh".

RiotSlumber Jack4 votes

It's contextual. Here it's an inflection of the voice.

Nazzadan1 votes

Its used by people that use emotions way too much, are of the weaboo persuasion, to display whimsicalness, or sometimes to display femininity . Or ironically. Really drives the point home when you whimsically tell someone "nice try~" when they gank you and you get away easily.

Metalhead71 votes

..... this for me makes no sense are you like defending or blind to the situation?

im here thinking like nvm even you a rioter will never understand. -.-

PDE5 Inhibitors3 votes

I still want a blue name.

lolptwo2 votes

I actually don't recall a game where someone hasn't given up after 2 kills 'i'm done', that's so common that I don't even consider it toxic anymore. The incredibly toxic stuff, trolling, afk and feeding is way way worse and still happens often enough that one of my New Years Resolution was to quit playing League this year altogether. It just doesn't bring as much joy as it does with other non-toxic community games. Like Hearthstone where I'm a perennial legend player

shyv1 votes

I don't think I've ever seen a riven give up first blood and not ragequit

Corrupto1231 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Eg0iQNBw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-01-03T15:41:49.742+0000)

I don't think I've ever seen a riven give up first blood and not ragequit

more like 'how the fuck does riven give up first blood'

shyv1 votes

riven players are bad

GCLock6662 votes

The entire reason this game is is getting nailed to the walls is because Riot as a business profits on 2 things. Your average Joe/Jane dropping money into it and the inevitability of human corruption and hate speech leading to inevitable conflict.

The correlation between the two you ask?

Riot cant make money if you play your favorite champions all the time. May people express a great deal of distrust and hate towards Riot Games online within popular YouTube videos from streamers. As a company, removing said accounts over the course of 5-6 years becomes inevitable, as those said players have a choice to make, either create a new account, or stop playing. Most tend to make new accounts, spending more money unlocking champions and skins they enjoy playing with.

Problem being that this can ALL be circumvented. How? By removing Type Chat. Not Pings. Those are perfectly fine, in fact MANY gamers don't even bother chatting at all. Myself included. If I see someone in a lane having trouble, I help them regardless of what they may or may not have said in chat, to me or otherwise. We don't need the chat to communicate, it only causes trouble. But Riot knows this. That's why they wont remove it.

Arakadia2 votes

They don't want to remove the chat 4 a reason. I've thought about just muting everyone at starts of the game. But chat is PART of the game. People play to make friends, share jokes, say GJ or its alright you made a mistake. Just some people ruin it for the rest of us.

Metalhead71 votes

Let me say this thing again lols

You play a game and sadly you just have to team up with a rager under your same MMR, and then by bad luck you do bad in the game like you died a lot but your trying to help your team, allow me to include something worse your bronze 5 to 4...

When someone who thinks he or she knows the game the first thing they do is to look at yes your Elo.... and for this bronze player the others will want vengance.

SO yes they will spam reports, they will spread things about the player in the whole community, friends that this player has will permanently delete him and finally the game and the company will permanent banned him by a false report from a rager.

This is the sad truth man, and this is the main reason i have been unranked for the past 3 years.....

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

SO yes they will spam reports, they will spread things about the player in the whole community, friends that this player has will permanently delete him and finally the game and the company will permanent banned him by a false report from a rager.

What? False reports don't hurt you, so this "rager" can't get you permabanned over it. How is he going to spam report you anyway? If he keeps falsely reporting all it does is lower the weight of his reports even if he somehow keeps getting matched with you. Even if he is both making true reports against you and being repeatedly matched with you enough to trigger a punishment, there are 3 punishment tiers before a permaban; false reports are never going to get you to a 10 game chat restriction let alone all the way to a permaban. Name & Shame (or witch hunting) players is against forum rules, so how is he to spread this false rumors? He'd get himself banned first. The community is far too huge to target an individual like that, the people that saw the rumors would never even find him. And his friends will ostracize him over it? If they delete him over a false rumor then they aren't friends.

Metalhead71 votes

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DeynaTaggerung4 votes

So under the old system somebody went to great lengths to do as much to hurt you as possible, and it got you a warning. Not a ban but a warning. Riot has continued to improve it's system, including tighter moderation on community outlets so they can't come and spread your summoner name around. Not only that their system for catching people has been improved, and it really does throw out the false reports. 3 years ago things were still being worked out by Riot, but the system has been improved. And even if by some miracle you were falsely given a ban, submitting a ticket to Riot support could get that revoked.

I'm sorry that something like that happened to you back then, but don't let hold you in fear for as long as you play League.

Metalhead71 votes

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DeynaTaggerung2 votes

Leaguecraft 101 www.youtube.com/user/unswlolsoc

this guy's videos got me out of bronze. If you search through youtube there's a lot of really good advice from players about how to improve at the game. Mobafire is a great resource for getting guides to any champion for build orders and tips/tricks. The pros recommend those sites because they're being sponsored by those sights, and I'm sure if you wanted to dro $50 they'd probably be helpful, but it really isn't necessary.

I've found that there are a lot of great people in the League community, 2 for every 1 person who's a pain. And then there's the people in the middle, who are pretty neutral most of the time, but when presented with a hard situation or a person being mean their negative side comes out. For those people, being positive and encouraging them is often enough to make them positive for that game. As for the people who I can't bring around...just mute them, and then it doesn't matter what they say or do because it has nothing to do with you.

Getting reported for doing nothing has no effect, I can assure you of this. I know there are players out there who say toxic things, even to the extreme of death threats. They can say whatever they want about not getting punished but the banning system remains very much active. Also on a side note I haven't once seen a person come complain on the boards about an unfair ban that actually proved to be unwarranted. Occasionally there's things on the edge, but they're usually confirmed later to be part of a long trend of edgy behavior. If you know you're in the right you don't need to worry.

So if you want to remain unranked that's fine. That's just how you play the game and I hope you can enjoy doing so :) I just want to let you know how I see the matter

Arakadia1 votes

No one helps in the game... Im not sure what that means... Although:

The tutorial is a joke and looking up things along with finding friends and asking them how its done will help alot. Speak for yourself, the community isn't always gonna be garbage. I used to build only Riteoous Glory on Kha'Zix when he was free. I would stack that item untill full build. Now im Silver III. Look it up.

This summoner called Squirrelrocks85 possibly did have a horrible experience. That doesn't mean you did, that this is common at all, or your recent post about how someone could do all these immpossible things such as being in a game with you over and over and spreadin rumors over the WHOLE community is true. This Squirrelrocks85 likely made a post as to start a flare war, get attention, for fun, or over exxagerated to prove their point sharper. This is only 2 people so far that claim to have experienced seemingly impossible events and claim the system is broken. Notice the majority of the community disagrees?

Metalhead71 votes

Notice the majority of the community disagrees?

No what you truly need to understand is that the situation is no longer at the control of the rioters but instead the ragers have the control of who stays or who dose not deserve to stay, that is what is really happening the tribunal system is a failure.

Arakadia1 votes

The majority of the community thinks the tribunal is fine.

Riot control the game. Your over exaggerating and blowing this up. The ragers don't have control. They aren't out to get you. They aren't meeting and uniting. Notice you don't see constant posts about how somewhat got banned 4 nothing. I've never got banned, all my friends have never got banned. The ragers don't have control of who to ban and who not to. It's not a failure. Please tell me how the ragers can ban you. They can't spam report you and spreading rumors won't work as they are strangers and the community I gigantic. I really don't understand how the ragers and trolls have power here of who's getting banned and who isn't.

Arakadia1 votes

The majority of the community is low elo/bronze xD. Dude you can't say every high elo person wants the bad people to fall and get banned. You CANT get reported for being bad at the game. Rager/Trolls/Toxic ppplwill always find ways to express their frustration. There are ways around it but thats not necesarilly the easiest thing nor something Riot has already done this second.

Arakadia1 votes

I've seen you on the board b4 Deep Terror Nami!

61939590DEL11 votes

{quoted} When someone who thinks he or she knows the game the first thing they do is to look at yes your Elo...

How am I not surprised by this statement that's what this community thinks of me. Intelligent players should be able to look pass solo queue ranks. B5 well I leave games, hate losing, hate wasting my time, no one ff when clearly we have lost.

I'm competitive & yes i do make my own makes occasionally most recent one since i haven't played in a while i bought the wrong jg item which it wasn't smiting champions.

Metalhead71 votes

B5 well I leave games

.... first of all don't post your bronze 5 and you don't get it, you think im joking around and saying stupid sh.. do you?

Poeple silver and beyond hate the bronze so hard. Oh well i feel like the need for not explaining anymore...

Community hate us and wants us perma Banned for bad gameplay simple truth, ask the ragers who hate the bronze with a passion.

Arakadia1 votes

Im a rager. Im going to hack someones account to find their freinds who never met me b4 to spread rumours they may or may not believe (bcuz a stranger said this), tell the GIGANTIC community about 1 "salty" player and theyll all listen, and than the company and game will ban me.... just because I was in a game with some rager. If it were so ez ppl would do it. People want vengeance but wont go thro all that for something that requires many strangers to believe another stranger rather than a friend. And idk how this rager would find your friends and how they woud spam report... Like theres a very low chance you'll be in another game with them.

Metalhead71 votes

Like i said i have live this 2 years ago, now the season is starting and i cannot trust no one at all....

Arakadia1 votes

How could they spammm reports? They'd have to somehow in multiple games with you over and over.... The community is huge so I doub't you were in the same game with him that many times. Even if you were, if somene spamms reports their report becomes less and less effective. You need multiple people also to report someoen and get a punishment.

The whole community isn't like the size of a school... I don't know how they could spread rumours to the whole community without bots which Riot has plugins for and people really can tell something is a bot. The majority of the people will just ignore the rumors, as they don't know the rager and/or the player who as rumors being spread about them is unknown 2. Some people might look at the player's profile, seeing if the rumors are true, only to find out they have no bans or mutes. I highly doubt the company will delete someones account, they won't listen to posts about this stuff, they need to see # of reports. Of ALL people I doub't the players friends will listen to some random stranger rather than their friend.

I don't understand why if you do bad or are low elo, someone will want VENGEANCE... They may report you if you try to defend yourself, blame others, or something else. They may curse at you. They most likely will not go through all this trouble to go after you, in which case they are more than just a rager.

Arakadia1 votes

Wuks! Nice Post. I agree, but its not so ez. You helped me on the Help and Support section. Thx!

ModWuks2 votes

https://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/04f13c883845e9563689d6eb08d89bbace3d56.jpg

Arakadia1 votes

xD HAHAHAH I wet myself laughing at this!!

BADxW0LF1 votes

The only time I get a tad bit negative is when that time when you should know to surrender comes (inhibs gone, a 20/2 enemy, between 0 and 2 objectives taken for ourselves while they have almost everything, etc.) and 2 people on your team want to drag it out. That's when I think those 2 have the negative attitude. 3 of us have accepted defeat and the other 2 are just wanting us to play it out, calling us negative for wanting to surrender. I hate the mentality of never surrender. I would much rather play another game than to sit here getting my ass handed to me because someone doesn't know when a game is lost and not force others into not having a good time.

nightsharks1 votes

{quoted} 3. It's just a prank game, bruh!

Until Dawn reference? :0

ModWuks1 votes

{quoted}

Until Dawn reference? :0

Nah, just a huge meme :P

Earl Eulrich1 votes

unfortunatly Riot did do everything in their might this peseason to make games more frustration and comebacks less likly than ever....

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