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WHEN are you RIOT going to do something about AFKs. Seriously.

Dane Belthound·1/25/2016, 2:16:14 AM·58 votes·3,101 views

I have been playing for 5 years and heard you guys say for YEARS now, "We are working on it". NOTHING has been done.

Nothing is more frustrating in this game than doing your placements (which are already depressing because you know you are going to be DROPPED several tiers no matter how good you do) and then you get THREE games with an afk on your team. These games then count against you in your placement which makes no sense. Especially when your system registered all three of these people as afk. Seriously, why do you have to think so much about it? If someone is afk from early in the game to the end, THAT GAME SHOULD NOT COUNT. It is frustrating and demoralizing that you guys sit back and do nothing about this and always claim that it is too complicated. Doing SOMETHING is better than nothing.

On top of it all, my last game I had the most damage by 10000 on both teams and we were 4v5 from the beginning. Will your system care? Nope.

37 Comments

Jamaree1/25/2016, 2:35:20 AM13 votes

There really does need to be a system like DoTA where you can leave with no penalty if someone doesn't connect from the start.

MasterSomething1/25/2016, 4:27:37 AM4 votes

THAT GAME SHOULD NOT COUNT.

Not the correct way to go about things. People will abuse this system by being toxic towards others enough that they leave. They want to avoid this even though they already have a system for this. It sucks ass, I know, but so does ranked.

No Ganks1/25/2016, 1:59:35 PM3 votes

We here at Riot will punish these players you will never see again because that'll give you your lp back.

PIMPSMOOTH1/25/2016, 3:21:17 AM2 votes

6 seasons and they have literally done jack shit about this, why would you expect it to change now?

Laisenberg1/25/2016, 9:41:57 PM2 votes

If you try harder you can win 4v5

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2077395760/213882285?tab=overview

R3p0r7M31/25/2016, 6:51:35 PM2 votes

RIOT is not gunna do jack squat about it because this game is FREE to play. So even if you BAN someone they will be right back into your next game AFKing if they don't like you. That's what this game is all about so live with it or quit and let the trolls win. did you know it takes about 10 000 reports to actually ban someone from the game? that's a hell of a lot of games to troll before making a new account you know ;)

mack91121/25/2016, 7:57:29 PM1 votes

But they have :3

Iqqi1/25/2016, 8:02:10 PM1 votes

If they were not before they will not now. Every player Riot excludes is a loss of potential revenue. Riot has completely sold out to a chinese company that only cares about profits. Riot will never implement any kind of behavior change system because every player they exclude means the loss of potential revenue.

Riots existing behavior systems are as extensive as they will ever be. If you ever get banned in League it means you are such an incredibly toxic player that your attitude is so bad that you will cause others to leave and it makes financial sense to ban you then let you continue to play and likely cause others to leave.

PlayandStfu1/25/2016, 8:26:22 PM1 votes

My friend almost got banned for afking, I don't know what you mean, but he upgraded his computer/internet and was fine.

Troll Armada1/25/2016, 9:57:51 PM1 votes

I don't see what the big deal is. Personally, I've never had an afk in my games, but even in the unlikely event that someone does not have a perfect high speed internet connection, Riot scientists have already explained that you have a lower probability of getting an afk, than the enemy team.

You, you have a total of 4 chances to get an AFK, because we are assuming you will not AFK, we subtract you from FIVE which is the total number of people on your team, whereas the enemy, you see, has FIVE chances to get an AFK and they can't subtract anyone, because you aren't there.

So as you can see, it's really not an issue at all.

DeynaTaggerung1/25/2016, 10:59:54 PM1 votes

This was Lyte a few months ago on the subject. I'm not sure if it's exactly satisfying but at least you'll understand some of their thought process on the matter.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/BNyn3GxJ-i-love-that-after-5-years-of-ranked-in-this-game?comment=000a000e0000

EasyFoon1/26/2016, 7:31:39 AM1 votes

they won't. Forever 4v5![slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Xyltin1/26/2016, 2:20:17 PM1 votes

I play for 5 years, too, and it was way worse back then. I don't know how it is on low elo NA, but in EUW I barely see an AFK guy. D/Cs are somthing that can happen, but someone really going AFK is rare for me to see and it was a real problem back in S2.

BeeDee1/26/2016, 2:38:00 PM1 votes

Not sure if I am in the minority of player here, but I honestly haven't seen many AFKers in a while. I would guess that in my last 3 months of games with roughly 4 games a day (some days more some days less) I have seen maybe 4 players afk/rq/never connect. Not sure if it is ranked based or not but i was Gold 2/3 for most of last season and haven't seen much at all. I have been playing since beta and over the last 2 seasons I have gradually noticed the AFK situation getting better, but i may be in a minority.

2 quick side notes; first, It isn't that hard to win when down a player, I won a 3v5 once in season 3 with our team having a diana, hec, mf (afk lulu and garen) vs ez, yorick, lee, leona and an adc that i can't remember (the ez was mid). If you keep the right mindset, and don't get tilted by being down a player, you can win.

Second, I wouldn't say it is depressing that you drop several tiers from placement, I would say that the challenge of actually climbing to where you were before and possibly passing it, is a good motivation boost compared to the stale feeling you get from being stuck in the same elo for potentially the whole season. It also get rid of the boosted kid for a bit seeing as most of that occurred a bit before the season rewards come out.

Alorrin011/27/2016, 5:59:06 AM1 votes

How about the player who announced in champ select they're going to feed, then afk, does it, gets reported and then tomorrow is right back at it when i check their accounts. seriously.

Juggernaut6281/25/2016, 2:17:49 AM1 votes

Gotta make this have more upvotes than views.

Calchexxis4/16/2016, 8:33:34 PM1 votes

I just played a game where we had a leaver before 15 minutes and put up a good showing anyway. We still lost but if we'd had 5 people we probably wouldn't have. Still lost LP though because Riot thinks Leaver games are still valid I guess. I just made a post like this not too long ago.

SpongebobIsLife1/25/2016, 6:43:25 AM1 votes

That's what dynamic que is for. Pick some buddies who you can trust, and have fun with it. Even if you only get a 3 or 4 man, that's still a 50 to 75 percent reduction of a possible afker (or feeder, toxic person, etc...). Dynamic que was riot's response to the troll and afk problem.

Sarutobi1/25/2016, 9:16:59 AM1 votes

The thing is basically everything the community has come up with could be taken into abuse. If the game doesn't count what's stopping someone from just leaving the game and "taking one for the team"?

Now granted afk are different than people who never connected into the game. And I think they should have a system in place for when someone doesn't connect from the start, but I'm mainly talking about games where everyone is there and someone decides to just leave (for what ever reason)

ChocoBean1/25/2016, 12:25:32 PM1 votes

Well i m in bronze again and getting ppl with scores like 1/15 , 1/8 also adc quitting got supp got 1monion farm so basically there are hell lot of problems with it and i dont think when someone give good suggestion rito does really listen to that

They might read this post and release a new master yi skin i guess .

Gregor Gysi1/25/2016, 2:40:15 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dane Belthound,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Efsjm86n,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-25T02:16:14.324+0000)

I have been playing for 5 years and heard you guys say for YEARS now, "We are working on it". NOTHING has been done.

And how would you know that? Oh right, you don't.

[{quoted}](name=Dane Belthound,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Efsjm86n,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-25T02:16:14.324+0000)

Nothing is more frustrating in this game than doing your placements (which are already depressing because you know you are going to be DROPPED several tiers no matter how good you do) and then you get THREE games with an afk on your team. These games then count against you in your placement which makes no sense. Especially when your system registered all three of these people as afk. Seriously, why do you have to think so much about it? If someone is afk from early in the game to the end, THAT GAME SHOULD NOT COUNT. It is frustrating and demoralizing that you guys sit back and do nothing about this and always claim that it is too complicated. Doing SOMETHING is better than nothing.

Ahh you are only ranting. OK.

[{quoted}](name=Dane Belthound,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Efsjm86n,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-25T02:16:14.324+0000)

On top of it all, my last game I had the most damage by 10000 on both teams and we were 4v5 from the beginning. Will your system care? Nope.

Oh u so gud only afks and feeders keep u in bronze always many many kills and damages why no challenjourr wtfß?

TheStevenWu1/25/2016, 7:41:04 PM1 votes

Just make it so players can vote to abandon game within the first 2 minutes of the game (only if no first blood has been taken). This will allow games where players never connected to be forfeited with no LP penalty. Make it so the team that utilizes this function all gets hit with a dodge penalty.

Small detail: voting can only start at 1:15. This is too allow players who have client/internet issues in the beginning some leeway to rejoin the game. It also allows more time for players to walk into lane/jungle camp. There is almost (less invade) no reason for teams to forfeit before this time mark.

Small detail 2: This option is only available for games in which most of the players are below diamond level. Level 1 plays are more significant in higher elo play and therefore the potential use for abuse is higher.

Any options to allow forfeitures after this mark will be too susceptible to abuse and should be not implemented. However, nothing significant happens in the first 2 minutes (less an invade) and therefore creates no harm to allow implementation of this system.

Moreover, if you are dealing with a disconnect/afk issues well into the game - that's just bad luck. RIOT should not have a system to account for this, as the potential use for abuse would be close to 100%. The only way a system like this can happen is if RIOT allows loss forgiven for the losing team but forces the disconnecting/afk player to drop an entire division/tier. Harsh punishments would discourage players from "taking one for the team (abuse)". This punishment is most likely too harsh in most incidents, and therefore should not be implemented. If ya'll wish, the League community can voice their opinion and agree that AFK/disconnects (FOR ANY REASON) should be punished with heavy LP loss and/or division/tier drop. This would happen even if the reason for your disconnect is because Comcast went down or your loved ones were sent to the hospital. Before voicing an opinion on this, think what you would want if something unexpected happened to you that was out of your control. Point: someone needs to take the punishment for the loss, it can't just be completely forgiven. So either someone loses LP equal to all 5 members, or everyone loses LP equally.