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Clearly the boards protect players who game the system

FreeVolibear·5/3/2017, 12:15:45 AM·5 votes·1,099 views

Supporting evidence:

1: Riot reporting system is automated. 2: When a player recognizes this and uses the holes in the system to get away with toxic and normally bannable behavior, he is gaming the system. 3: When reported person is still playing after a month of repeated abuse, the reporting system cannot catch him unless Riot sees this and decides the behavior is okay (highly doubtful), ergo, the report system CANNOT catch him. 4: When the reporting system cannot spot a player who is gaming it, and someone calls his behavior to light on the boards, the mods remove his name for "naming and shaming" 5: This leaves no medium for which to call the players actions to light, and thus protects system gaming.

So the player will continue to repeat his behavior because the system is NOT set up to catch what it does not see. This is what the system does not see:

1: Player in game client forces a dodge because players do not want to lose. He picks a champ that is way off meta (which is fine in most cases I believe so long as the player communicates and intends to win with it), and if that does not work, he uses threats to bully a dodge (such as feeding, leaving lane indefinitely, going afk. 2: In game, he waits until the remake timer passes, then goes to wolves and hits them once and goes back to base. The game does not show him as afk. His player history shows him with no items at level 1-2 20-30 minutes or more into the game.

Proof that the system is not seeing him:

1: His player history shows this abuse spanning more than a month. He is still playing (as I have matched with him (once on my team, once on the enemy team) and he pulled this tactic, and three times this past week (twice on my team, once on enemy team) and he pulled this tactic again.

Getting out of Bronze feels nearly impossible as it is. The only hope we have is that trolls at some point do not continue to be a game deciding factor. We rely on the reporting system to keep this sort of behavior to a dull roar. When it becomes obvious that the system does not work, it makes one wonder why bother at all? I can just do the same thing and make sure I never have to play a lane I don't want, or with another player who picks a champ I don't like. And if that fails, I can get away with making them pay for it by trolling their game. The beauty of it is i now know I will NEVER get caught.

22 Comments

ModUlanopo5/3/2017, 12:49:10 AM6 votes

1: Riot reporting system is automated.

With human oversight, yes.

2: When a player recognizes this and uses the holes in the system to get away with toxic and normally bannable behavior, he is gaming the system.

There really isn't any evidence that players do this. Most of the time, people see a string of games that look like feeding when taken out of context.

3: When reported person is still playing after a month of repeated abuse, the reporting system cannot catch him unless Riot sees this and decides the behavior is okay (highly doubtful), ergo, the report system CANNOT catch him.

There are always going to be a few cases the system doesn't catch, especially since FeederBuster is the youngest of the behavioral systems. It took the IFS a while to get up to speed too. It's important to report these cases properly. That way the information gets to the people who can adjust the systerm

4: When the reporting system cannot spot a player who is gaming it, and someone calls his behavior to light on the boards, the mods remove his name for "naming and shaming"

Absolutely. Name-and-shame doesn't accomplish anything on its own other than causing drama. When "reports" like this get removed, we escalate them to Riot. It's much slower and less reliable than a proper support ticket, but we do what we can.

5: This leaves no medium for which to call the players actions to light, and thus protects system gaming.

The rules aren't going to change. You really should try putting in a ticket.

AeroWaffle5/3/2017, 12:54:35 AM5 votes

1-3 don't even come close as evidence that the, "boards protect players who game the system".

4: When the reporting system cannot spot a player who is gaming it, and someone calls his behavior to light on the boards, the mods remove his name for "naming and shaming"

The boards are not the place for reporting people. Common players literally can't do anything about their position in the punishment system. The only thing it may achieve is what's known as a "witch hunt". People going out of their way to achieve vigilante justice based on information that may be bias or missing important details.

5: This leaves no medium for which to call the players actions to light, and thus protects system gaming.

The report button at the post game screen. Use it. Even if they are intentionally avoiding the system, a high quantity of reports on a player will likely trigger a manual review. We saw it with the support singed and support nunu cases. They didn't do anything that the automated system would have banned them for, but because they were getting reported a large amount, a manual review was done.

Troll Armada5/3/2017, 12:51:50 AM2 votes

This reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite movies:

"Justice serves those who serve themselves."

If you think of Riot as the preacher, then you can think of the boards as the Amen Choir....

Kei1435/3/2017, 12:51:49 AM1 votes

wait, you are in bronze?

how the heck do you get matched with him 3 times?

i can understand high levels getting matched together again, but in bronze?

CØulrophobia5/3/2017, 8:10:06 AM1 votes

I dont understand people that downvoted. Can you edit blog so we can see his name? It is possible if several people in boards spam support ticket to ban him, we can indeed manage it. I am all ok with spamming Riot if he indeed does this sort of thing.