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Groups Bully in norms

VinceDaGr3at·12/12/2017, 9:42:52 AM·1 votes·256 views

So I flame sometimes ill admit it, got my honor taken away and all that and am setting on 4 boxes and cant get keys. I completely understand that, so I know riot tries to prevent toxicity. However, since the season ended ive been playing alot more norms and in those norms ive been in situations where three or four of my teammates will be in a group. That would be fine I dont mind groups like that, except when they use those numbers to bully you. I feel kinda wimpy saying that, ive never really been bullied IRL but in a game where someone or even a group doesn't have to show their faces it gets very toxic sometimes. For example, in my last game we had 3 pushed in lanes, 3 bot I was mid and jung ran into their jungle past rift and dives onto their graves, granted he got the kill but then he was dived on by a leona and swain. I then tried to help him out of reaction and ended up dying too. He ran almost to their base when they still had the the second row of towers up. Their adc and sup were bot and swain was dead when he started into their jungle and leona was mia and graves had walked on a ward is why we knew where he was.After that I said "hey next time we should probably just take rift we prolly coulda got it pretty free, it woulda been safe and its a free tower if used right so we could get some free objectives" to which he replied "shut the f up, graves was the objective and I got him" and I replied " well graves is behind and in my opinion wasnt worth giving swain your shutdown gold over and they were able to take mid off of it, so not worth", and then he went on to flame me and ping death timers anytime I died and also the best part was, while I try to manage and leave pings on and chat on when they flame because I wanna win, but I did eventually mute the jungs pings even though thresh and the adc, all part of his three man group, were all pinging just to irritate me. But before I muted all three I I was being chased by a leone and lucan, my jung a fed kayn and my sup thresh ping they were gonna come in so I led them to the bush next to where they were and the jung and sup just let me and them run down the lane next to the unwarded bush they are setting in auto attack distance, and I even put the adc to sleep next to the bush. Then I was grabbed by leona and died while they sat in the bush doing their laugh and then spamming death timers.

Anyways Im just sick of this happening. When I go into a normal blind or draft I at times am practicing a build or a champ, but more times or not I just wanna have some fun. Which is why I dont understand why its okay to have a group of people and then you to where you feel like if you share an opinion your gonna get ganged up on, you feel like if you do bad your gonna get flamed or reported in a NORMS match. Cause after every game where you get ganged up on the group is like report you or whoever made them mad. I mean in recent games while im being flamed I dont swear back, I state my opinion and still do my best to play for the team and I really try to not do anything bad or reportable. There are some games where I tilted and slipped up when a group is flaming and said mean things back but once you have 3 outta 4 games like that its understandable to be irritated, and I have never used a group to single out and bully 1 player because they shared an opinion I disagreed with. It even happens sometimes whena duo is bullied by a trio, just less common.

I guess in conclusion I know riot has punishments for that behavior, I myself am trying to get my honor back. But its just hard to play when alot of your games having a different opinion or even not wanting to all in when one member of a group wants too can get you flamed and cussed out. When its your whole team muting pings and chat puts you at a huge disadvantage. Then even if you've done nothing wrong you get reported and if you did do something wrong your still getting reported and its honestly your report vs three or four other reports. And while I am trying to get my honor back I feel ist near impossible when at least one out of four, sometimes as much as three outta four, games I feel like my options are to mute everyone and not be able to communicate in a team game, to leave everyone unmuted and just be a punching bag, or to stand up to myself or the other person on the team if its a three man and risk saying something that could be taken as rude back and get reported by the larger group, becuase agaiunst 3 reports whats my 1 gonna do? I wish there was a solo-que type norms like there is a solo duo ranked. This doesnt seem to happen as much when its just duos but it still does. But its to the point my best friend doesn't even wanna duo cause he would get flamed, in norms, because he wasn't very good and I would get into arguments because he didnt want to say anything he would be in voice and Id be like hey can yaw shut up yaw really arnt playing that well either and its norms. which got me 3 man reported. Ive had friend litterly cry and say she wasnt gonna play anymore from people flaming her ina norms game because it wa sa 3 man and we were a duo. I understand wanting to win, I hate losing but I try my best to not attack someone over a video game, I mean I dont understand how making someone feel bad or stressing them out can give you satisfaction If they are someone whos not very good or having an off game. I mean ive been like 4/0/2 and getting flamed when I ask someone to play a lil safer back and we can outscale later. They will just reply with "shut the f up I know how to play my lane, your not even good your enemy laner is just bad," and ive even had the jungler come steal my farm cause he went and invaded the enemy jungler while my lanes pushed in and I cant follow my laner even though i spam ping they are coming, but im pushed under tower. Apparetnly thats my fault and if we had a mid laner or adc, even though Ill be ahead or above half the time, then that wouldnt happen.

Sorry for rambling, its late. This is just an issue I see and have experienced alot lately. I know im not the only one and I know toxicisity is one of the biggest issues in league, its the number one reason people give me for not wanting to play LOL, just because they have heard about the community. The worst part is ive met a ton of friends from league who I talk to regularly. So I know there is a lot of good people in the community, but I feel like large groups are more liley to be toxic than a single person in most cases or at least large groups are more likley to try to bully someone when really the only other option the player being ganged up on has besides the earlier stated ones is to afk and that gets them banned by reports from the group, but honestly they are gonna still be reported whether they did anything wrong or not cause the group knows they are gonna be reported and that way they will have the numbers. Its just to stressful.

I hope that made sense, sorry for it being so ranty, but id like other opinions even if you think im wrong thats cool, or if maybe this happens to you also.

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VinceDaGr3at12/12/2017, 10:59:11 AM1 votes

Oh on a side note I am now chat restricted and the only match i played b4 that I was on sup and got 2 honors, had all chat off cause I do that so i wont tilt from enemy flame. And the meanest thing i said was we prolly shoulda won lane to my adc when he complained about the enemy blitz screwing us over. Litterly all I said was that and then told him good job when he got a triple and I said gj to our top when she got 1st blood and im pretty sure he honored me and the only other person i talked to was top. So unless that somehow got me chat restricted. Like I said you get bullied and if you say anything at all back even when the group is being vulgar and straight racist then you will get in trouble. Im just sick of having to be talked to like crap by a buncha keyboard warriors cause they have numbers. I mean the reports prevent me from honors alone even when they are just people ganging up and then when i get a team thats not a group of toxic people I cant talk to them or reply. Cause after that I played with two 2 man and that match I got camped and they were cool no flame at all and we won but I had to let them know at start I was basically false reported and chat restricted and it hut us in the game me not being able to type details like fizz ult, or typing who was where when I knew 3 were in topside. I mean honestly whats the point of trying to not tilt and not be toxic when im just gonna get bullied and reported anyways. At least one way I can tell them off. Anyways I wish there was a way to challenge chat restrictions or even pull up the game and show whoever is in charge of that, cause it seems like they can cuss me out and say whatever they want but when I say I know yaw are a group now stop being keyboard warriors and bullying just cause you have numbers and play, that im chat restricted. Just blows my mind, but I guess doesnt matter if your inncoent if you dont have the numbers your screwed.

I really enjoy this game. I do have a problem with tilt. Since the few months since my last chat restriction, one and a half to two months ago, which I still am at honor 0 from. I have turned off all chat. I have played a few games with it on but 95 percent have it off because I know enemy trash talk can tilt me. But I made a point since then to try to keep cool. In the past 2 months basically two times ive tilted and argued in chat, and one because my mid in ranked said he was banned out and i had already picked tristana and I said if you have zoe, annie or lux I can mid and he said yeah and then locked mf and then tried to trade me. Which I was like dude why we needed ap and I said who id trade for and you said you had zoe. So then he runs mid and ints the whole game. after the 5th death in 5 min and asking him to play back and poke and him saying it was my teams fault everyone started arguing myself included. And the other time I turned all chat on for a game got camped and then the enemy flamed me and I tilted and we smack talked back and forth.

But honestly I play alot cause I enjoy the game and I enjoy growing better, I have been trying to get M7 on all adcs since preseason ended to have them down for next ranked season, I have over half now but with those I got 4 chest and cannot open any due to getting no keys. And with these reports and chat restrictions I know im losing my honor which is my chest. Which in turn means no chest, but I dont really think thats fair. Now ive been chat banned 4 times. The 1st time i argued I didnt deserve, the second time I definitly did and the 3rd I read the chat logs and felt bad honestly and since then even when i tilt I have not flamed like that. Even when the dude inted on mf I did not personally attack him anymore then saying I thought he was trolling. Other people were like kys to him and stuff and thats my rank even if its preseason. So I did care about losing that match but in was not gonna do anythig I felt like would lose me my honor, and since then even with the banter against the enemy mid weeks ago I do not feel ive done anything to lose my honor.

But I lose my drive to play when i earn chest and cant open them because I have no keys cause 3 people wanted to attack me and then report me because they know I will report them. I mean its their word against mine and they have three or four. So its no wonder I get the short end cause. Just getting flamed day in and day out in norms by groups makes me not even wanna progress, and if I try new champs and do bad, cussed and reported, if I have an opinion cussed and reported, even if I mute all reported. Its to often and I hope that maybe im just unlucky. Maybe this doesnt happen to many more people.

I just wish that I felt like I could accomplish something in this game without getting it taken away unfairly. I am losing my drive to play just because how things have went and I absolutely love this game. But its so full of bullys, and trolls and just mean people that its hard to think about the friends ive made or how fun the game itself. So I guess ill just keep all chat off still and hope I dont get groups like that, the only other option i can think of is to bring two people myself but I like to just play solo alot. So hopefully it gets better if not idk because I really dont wanna stop playing this game because the bad in the community, when LOL is something I really enjoy.