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"Only yourself can make you feel inferior"

revert adc pls·8/30/2018, 12:40:51 AM·1 votes·2,012 views

A post called "Grow tougher skin" got me thinking about this. A lot of the comments mentioned about real world mentality and how stuff like insults aren't nearly as allowed in the real world then online. I am a person who considers themselves very strong mentally. I like the term "I know what I know, and I know what I don't" and I know that I am a very open-minded person. I also grew up with a friend group (still brothers with them to this day) that our daily task was to "How can we hilariously insult each other today?" I took a lot of shit, I gave a lot of shit. At one point towards end of HS, I started looking back and think of how I felt during those flaming battles and it wasn't all too great. I thought about it more and more, and I realized that years after I stopped hanging out with that group of friends everyday (moved to college) that nothing anyone could say could get to me. I was conditioned by all the shit I took in my childhood. Someone saying "hurtful things" to you or insults, cannot make you upset, you can only allow the words to get to you. I feel like if Riot promoted this type of attitude instead of "tell us who is saying what and we'll punish them," that the Riot community could rise from the toxic ashes and see real change.

43 Comments

Aneirin8/30/2018, 1:19:45 AM10 votes

You could apply the same logic to anything else in life, including getting chat restricted or banned. Maybe those people should just not allow it to bother them? Or maybe they should choose not to be bothered by losing games? Maybe they shouldn't allow trolls to wind them up?

Why expect the victims to change their attitude instead of the antagonists?

Silent Gravity8/30/2018, 1:11:23 AM7 votes

You noticed that you felt "not too great" during your insult battles, and that was with friends. What makes you think that insult battles with strangers would feel better, or would be constructive to have during games.

Once upon a time, it was socially acceptable to kick people in the balls. It happened a lot. The short term solution was wearing codpieces, actual physical armor, to protect yourself. The long term solution was to make it socially unacceptable to kick people in the balls.

Armor is mildly uncomfortable to wear, mildly inconvenient to maintain, mildly costly to purchase, mildly time-consuming to put on and take off, and does not provide complete protection. It seems better to me to not need it.

You didn't enjoy the process of creating your "armor" with your friends, and the phrase "nothing anyone could say could get to me" sounds very sad and lonely.

Would you like to go back to being required to wear a codpiece? I suppose I'll be the first to volunteer to kick you in the balls, if that's what you want.

theChibiTina8/30/2018, 2:02:54 AM7 votes

Problem being with your analogy is the difference between flaming friends jokingly and for the fun of it and flaming someone else you don't know well just for the sole purpose of putting them down. It's okay to mess around with your friends. It is not okay to verbally abuse someone and say they should just put up with it because the world is cruel. Yes, life can be tough. That is no excuse to just go around insulting people though. Just because you can put up with the abuse, doesn't mean you should have to put up with the abuse.

hrooza dota 8/30/2018, 5:03:54 PM3 votes

maybe the players need to rise the attitude of (oh i lost,unlucky game) instant of (omg you useless 2/10 player you cant fucking play the game how are you in my rank you peace of shit ,all/ pls report X for feeding and trolling and flaming)

if we wanna decrease toxicity then toxic ppls are the one who should change not others

p.s : dota dont auto punish for insults and trust me they are as toxic as (if not more) then lol players

Eternal Torment8/30/2018, 10:46:22 AM1 votes

So...just because you don't get easily offended, you suddenly have the delusion that everyone should share your moral standart?

Oh boy...if you had asked "what's wrong with that" the answer would be Where do I start with this...

The world and it's people clearly know which things are offensive and which things are not. Sure, if you tell someone he is raping you just because his eyes were within 180° sight angle of your general vicinity then you got a loose screw to look at, but if you tell a black guy the N word, then even if he shrugs it off, you are the ass for saying it, not him for getting a reaction to it.

The victim is not at fault. The culprit is. End of story, period. As Chermog said. In no instance is the Victim at fault, with the SOLE exception being if the victim lied, which is the only existencial case where the Victim is at fault and not the culprit, and even that comes with the mandatory condition that said accused culprit is completely innocent.

Your moral is disgusting. Go tell a victim of assault, rape, domestic abuse, a car accident etc. etc. and say "it wasn't their fault, it was yours"

You will earn a medal for surviving that encounter. The mentality that the perpetrator is innocent is borderline stupid.