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Can We Please Define What Feeding Is?

MrMildSauce··2 votes·1,286 views

So, I've noticed a lot in recent games, how players tend to blame their problems on the person with the worst kda, referring to them as a "feeder". Well, the funny thing is, usually the person with the most deaths is one of the people putting blame on others. Now, I'm not trying to be salty, or say that it's anyone person's fault for a lost game, but an abundance of deaths from a teammate certainly makes it more difficult to win a game. I think if the League Community tries to define feeding in actual terms as giving out kills to the enemy, it might help toxic players take a second to think about more than just if they have more kills than deaths, and actually consider how they can better themselves for the sake of their team. I'm not saying I don't do my own share of feeding, but, I tend to see this blaming of someone with a poor kda, from someone that has a high amount of kills, but also a large amount of deaths. The thing is, even if you have a ton of kills, if you're giving out a lot of kills to the enemy to get those kills, and as a result, your team struggles harder and harder in fights until they can't win them anymore, isn't that a bigger issue than the person who has no kills, but very few deaths and assists? Just a thought I've been thinking a lot as I play more games, and try to gain more experience with the game.

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18 Comments

Ionian4 votes

Feeding is when you keep dying without getting your team any advantages.

A Singed that goes 0/10/0 but took 6 towers and 2 inhibs by himself is NOT feeding.

An Ahri that goes bot lane and lures 5 people to her, dying 1v5, as your team takes a completely free baron, is NOT feeding.

A Leblanc that is 0/3/0 in the laning phase, keeps coming back just to die and let the enemy Zed freely farm and roam, is feeding.

Brendy Bear1 votes

If you're dying repeatedly, it's still feeding. If the enemy team gives up 6 towers and 2 inhibs from a 0/10/0 Singed, they're just bad, even though the Singed is still technically feeding. lol.

Zer0Honor1 votes

[{quoted}](name=If Ahri Was Real,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ET9wFqwX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-29T09:41:48.612+0000)

Feeding is when you keep dying without getting your team any advantages.

A Singed that goes 0/10/0 but took 6 towers and 2 inhibs by himself is NOT feeding.

An Ahri that goes bot lane and lures 5 people to her, dying 1v5, as your team takes a completely free baron, is NOT feeding.

A Leblanc that is 0/3/0 in the laning phase, keeps coming back just to die and let the enemy Zed freely farm and roam, is feeding.

^ Cough actually that is feeding, its just feeding with perks. There is no reason to be 0/10/0 on singed, with all the move speed etc you should be able to escape.

Ahri should be baiting them in a way that she can get under a tower or to a safer area rather then just baiting them away from baron...

and the last one is obvious feeding, but your not mentioning the unobvious. fighting enemies but autoing minions while they "fight"

Nasus Withers2 votes

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^ Cough actually that is feeding, its just feeding with perks. There is no reason to be 0/10/0 on singed, with all the move speed etc you should be able to escape.

Ahri should be baiting them in a way that she can get under a tower or to a safer area rather then just baiting them away from baron...

and the last one is obvious feeding, but your not mentioning the unobvious. fighting enemies but autoing minions while they "fight"

Actually this wouldnt be feeding because feeding is having a disproportionate number of deaths to the rest of your team WHILE giving your opponent an advantage. 6 turrets and 2 inhibs is well worth 10 deaths, especially since the value of killing said champ decreases for every death he/she has, not to mention the amount of pressure should give your team the ability to take free drags/baron and turrets in their own lanes if they are paying atttention and assuming the singed is coordinating with the team (teamwork op).

as a seperate note, just cause singed has speed does not mean he can escape a 3/4/5 man gank, maybe not even a 2 man gank depending on his position and the amount of damage and cc the champions ganking him have.

Anomander1 votes

Cough proxy singe cough......

Fovere1 votes

[{quoted}](name=If Ahri Was Real,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ET9wFqwX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-29T09:41:48.612+0000)

Feeding is when you keep dying without getting your team any advantages.

A Singed that goes 0/10/0 but took 6 towers and 2 inhibs by himself is NOT feeding.

An Ahri that goes bot lane and lures 5 people to her, dying 1v5, as your team takes a completely free baron, is NOT feeding.

A Leblanc that is 0/3/0 in the laning phase, keeps coming back just to die and let the enemy Zed freely farm and roam, is feeding.

Pretty much this.

Feeding is repeatedly dying without purpose.

Brendy Bear2 votes

Feeding is already defined. It's when a single player gives an unordinary amount of kills in relation to overall team kills to an opposing player that causes the opposing player/team to have an advantage in game.

League of Legends also already defined "Intentional Feeding" in their reporting option.

I think you're having trouble finding the difference between "feeding" and "intentional feeding"

And as far as giving out kills to get kills, it's a very bad mindset to get into, especially if you don't know matchups. Giving a kill to get a kill can be bad at times, because champions scale differently.

Zer0Honor1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Brendy Bear,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ET9wFqwX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-29T09:41:18.982+0000)

Feeding is already defined. It's when a single player gives an unordinary amount of kills in relation to overall team kills to an opposing player that causes the opposing player/team to have an advantage in game.

League of Legends also already defined "Intentional Feeding" in their reporting option.

I think you're having trouble finding the difference between "feeding" and "intentional feeding"

And as far as giving out kills to get kills, it's a very bad mindset to get into, especially if you don't know matchups. Giving a kill to get a kill can be bad at times, because champions scale differently.

Any type of feeding should be reportable, because I'm tired of 0/5/0 in 5 minute players that say "I cant do anything" but still try to fight the enemy in their lane...or say "Hes diving under tower to kill me" but don't have jg or someone come to lane with him to help...Lane swaps are used for reasons such as that...no reason to "feed" (intentional or not).

Brendy Bear2 votes

Because you've never fed before right?

Kei1432 votes

actually a 0/10/0 has given less gold to the enemy compared to someone who is 12/6/0.

iknowisuckSORRY2 votes

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actually a 0/10/0 has given less gold to the enemy compared to someone who is 12/6/0.

Wow you really are something.

Leopards Ghost1 votes

still don't understand the difference between bad & feeding huh.

Lycanoon2 votes

#feeding and/or being a feeder

Pushing too hard against an enemy or enemies you KNOW you can't win against (but state you're peeling...lies) Persistently tower diving and chasing "bait" knowing the other laner or JG is close by and you allow them to kill you. Rushing into the enemy base knowing all your team mates are on death timers and 5 of the enemy is alive and healthy. Picking a character you KNOW will suffer based on your team composition and their kits. Allowing yourself to be killed by minions repeatedly or the enemy tower. (This applies to Sion and Karthus players mainly) Wasting your skills on minions while at low health and the enemy is in your face, resulting in you not being able to defend or kill the enemy.

I think that pretty much covers everything. If that doesn't, then use common sense on what is defined as intentional feeding.

If you're 0/6/0 within the first 5 minutes of the game, you're feeding. If you're 1/10/4 within the first 10 minutes, you're feeding. If you're 5/18/23 after 20 minutes, you're not feeding...you're just being a Try-Hard...and need to stop. If you're 10/20+/0 after 20 minutes, you're baiting, but it's resulting in feeding the enemy. If you're 18/18/0 after 20 minutes...something seriously wrong with that picture.

If you're 32/6/23, your enemy team is feeding you obviously. Common Sense goes a LOOOONG way here.

MrMildSauce1 votes

Well, what usually happens, is someone will get 1 kill from going into a 1v4 or 1v5 multiple times, but they'll have a good kda, and get upset at the person with a low kda, but that person hasn't died much, just they haven't gotten kills or many assists.

Leopards Ghost1 votes

it's defined in the report menu.

"intentional deaths"

there's alot of grey area, most ppl report feeding if someone is having a bad game or whatever. classically, feeding is yi running down midlane through the entire enemy team without attacking. 10 times in a row.

Zer0Honor1 votes

Feeding - Trying to fight unwinnable fights. Example - 1v5 or trying to fight someone 3 lvls up when you have 1/2 hp. Feeding - Standing still in a fight to let the enemy kill you. Feeding - more then 1 death a minute, no reason to die every time you get back to lane, or come back to life. Play safe if you are behind even if you have to farm under tower

Feeding - over extending to such a degree that you cant see enemies coming because you fail to place wards...This is relative to if you are split pushing or just farming.

Zaryelle1 votes

Feeding is also a little different in ARAM, generally there will be a lot of people with 10+ deaths especially in close matches, and a few will be necessary deaths to go buy stuff. Plus the late game gets really difficult if one side is fed enough they can instantly kill the squishier champs on your team so even if you only had 2 deaths for 20 minutes you can get tons more at the end game.

But I still do see people feeding on purpose in ARAM, and generally trying to 1v5 a lot more than they would in SR, which can be annoying.

Audricc1 votes

To me feeding is when a person goes out of there way to die or make poor decisions because they are either tilting or dumb. I never get mad when a person on my team loses lane (unless they had a clear advantage and threw it or is beaten by a champion they counter solo), but i do get mad when they dont plan accordingly. For example, riven mains in silver (a.k.a. satan incarnate) will get first blooded by an ap champion (no shame in being firstblooded btw) then will still build 100% full damage eventhought they are way behind and die continuously. Even thought they are "playing safe" they are still dying because they arent counterbuilding their opponent. Just build a fucking hexdrinker. To me i only call someone a feeder when they refuse to counter build, ward, play smart, and take opportunities to get back in the game. Coupling that with a lot of deaths = less lp for me :(.

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