My Jungler Sucks

orangejraffe·1/4/2018, 2:48:08 AM·2 votes·1,480 views

Hey all. I've noticed more and more that toxicity towards the jungle role seems to be very prevalent. From my perspective, it seems that whenever I or someone on my team does poorly in the lane, the first thought is to blame the jungler. "Go AFK. You suck. I'm pushed are you blind?" are common sayings I see being used and it can result in junglers afk'ing. I'm very glad the riot created the mute button for both pings and comments because we all know that players like to ping junglers when they are staring at grey screens. However, some dig's choose to not mute laners and fire comments back and argue and subsequently end up losing the game.

Okay the whole point of this being.

Why do people (I am not excluding myself) blame the jg whenever they get ganked or get solo'd
Why do people use excess toxicity and risk losing the game in order to try and make someone else feel bad?

12 Comments

DestructoDave1/4/2018, 4:56:44 AM4 votes

It also goes the other way. I had 3 junglers basically quit yesterday and just afk farm rest of game. First one was becuase top lane went 1-8. Next one, someone said something to him, and with him being 13/5, he was carrying so the team didn't deserve to win. Next one, he just got completely out jungled by a Lee Sin who invaded him over and over and wrecked him. He blamed his laners for not helping. Sometimes they just can't help. Same as sometimes a jungler just can't gank. But that was 3 games just down the drain, with the jungler blaming his team.

Junglers blame their teammates and laners every bit as much as laners blame them; justified or not. As a jungler, you do get TOO much blame. But at the same time, junglers don't want to accept ANY blame. Its a conundrum. As a jungler, you arent exactly "losing lane." The worst you are probably going to do is not ganking or being 0/0/0 10 minutes into the game. Neither of those are as noticeable as dying 3 times in lane or being down 30cs. But they have just as much affect on the game, if not more so, since the jungler position is by far the most impactful role in the game. A good jungler can single handedly win the game in the first 10 minutes.

But yes, this is not some hate on junglers. The players in every position are not exactly different. Ive seen as many toxic supports towards their ADCs as vice versa.

But in the end, while junglers get too much blame, they don't accept enough blame themselves. If you are an early game jungler and have did nothing but farm and you are 0/0/0 while the other jungler is 5/0, its not just your laner's faults; its yours. You can't accept all the praise and none of the blame. Every now and then when I do jungle, there are games where I'm not feeding; I'm not actively losing the game. But I'm literally doing nothing while the enemy jungler is just competely outclassing me. Its my fault, even though its not as apparent as being down 30cs and 1-2 kills in lane.

Edit: Just had a 4th jungler intentionally throw the game. 48 minutes of time wasted because Kha got mad. Because hes making all the plays and doing all the carrying, we deserve to lose.

Imperial Pandaa1/4/2018, 2:57:17 AM2 votes

Because it is infinitely easier to blame someone else than to admit that we did something wrong.

Granted it doesn't apply to all, it seems like a fitting answer.

braindead eboy1/4/2018, 2:59:39 AM2 votes

Same reason they blame other lanes, you expect your jungle to keep the other jungler in check, and to some extent the jungler have responsibility over the enemy jungler as you do your laner. However, unless you are plat you shouldn't expect this from the jungler.
They have given up, they don't think they can win at that point but they cannot FF, as man people do not FF on principle. As a result one way to persuade your teammate to give up is to flame them.

OniZetsu6661/4/2018, 2:57:09 AM2 votes

Because its easier to blame someone else that could have possibly saved you. (hence why supports also get shit)
This is just a guess but to make themselves feel better and to stroke their own ego and possibly to assert dominance.

General Esdeath 1/4/2018, 6:02:44 AM2 votes

I think it's because laners have more experience on ganks than a jungler does. As weird as that sounds, hear me out. How often has my OTP Yi ganked a Riven top lane that's in that exact spot? Probably rarely. How often have I, the top laner who plays a lot of Riven and faces her a lot, seen her (me or the other guy) get ganked from that spot and know it's too far for her to run? A LOT.

I know it's weird how I typed it, but laners know the exact pixel where it's just too far for them to escape, and we think "How does this idiot not understand it?" when in reality, it's rarely something they do or think about.

Troll for Trump1/4/2018, 6:03:35 AM2 votes

The jgler is the most, if not at least 2nd most important and impactful role in the game. Despite often not being as mechanically intense, the amount of things jgl needs to do is immense.

So yeah, expect to get flamed, and rightfully blamed.

Basically impossible for anyone to realistically do what the jg is supposed to do properly.

Best Vi Earth1/4/2018, 5:23:36 AM2 votes

why dont complainers use the mute button?

Kei1431/4/2018, 4:39:01 AM1 votes

we as support mains have taught the community well. we tell people to shift the blame to the junglers (instead of the support) so we can get off Scott-free.

Kings Avatar6/17/2019, 5:22:04 PM1 votes

Well if your jungler camped bot/mid and never came top once, earlier (15-20 mins) game. Where as kept on be constantly ganked 4-5 times already and mid and bot still lost. like in my last game. of course you will be pissed. Or the game before a Nasus jungler didn't know how to play nasus and didn't farm Q in jungle and kept on ganking and feeding. Or the jungler says i ganking bot constantly because once our adc is fed we will win where as our adc already feeding like idiot.