Is advising bad?

heroikc·4/17/2018, 4:20:07 AM·1 votes·2,667 views

So yeah, just started a game (A normal draft) where I was an Ornn facing a DrMundo , barely one minute in, I tried to suggest a gameplan for the team fight phase of the game to deal with mundo. A mere contingency in case I couldn't shut him down. Vladimir builds item 3165 and Ashe builds item 3033. Nothing abrasive and no hurry in it. Just suggestions for later portion of the game.

And then the support Malphite butts in and starts yelling at me for giving "bad advise" and not to bother because its a normal draft. Now tell me; is it truly wrong to give advice in a normals match, good or bad?

25 Comments

ModArticus434/17/2018, 4:54:08 AM4 votes

Consider this when you try communicating with your team. This is just some basic-ish psychology regarding human interaction.

  1. People feel the need to be respected.
  1. People would rather be asked than told to do something.
  1. People have a desire to know why.
  1. People prefer to have options over threats.
  1. People want to have a second chance.

This is why pings are so great, because they only convey an alert, not necessarily a command (though some people view it that way). I'm not suggesting to not use chat, but I think most people playing League are so hard-set on their opinion of how to play they don't consider other perspectives, especially in the heat of the moment.

Quil Evrything4/17/2018, 4:52:08 AM3 votes

Bottom line is, there a lot of immature babies playing this game. If they dont respond well to advice, then just mute them and stop giving advice to them.

Nirvøy4/17/2018, 6:11:12 AM2 votes

No advising is not bad but the way you give it might be. Not everyone will be receptive to the advice in a positive way and not everyone will understand why. Some will understand and they will listen, some with be ignorant due to ego/ superiority complex/ etc. Some might not know why and ask for further explanation. The key is keep it clear cut and in a neutral/ positive tone. If the recipient shows negative response to the advice, don't bother anymore. If someone else is trying to butt in, just ignore them and/ or mute if they are flaming you.

Chermorg4/17/2018, 4:23:21 AM2 votes

I don't think it's wrong to give advice within reason. To me, within reason means you keep it to a minimum necessary for the winning of the game at hand (ex: hey they're all AD maybe magic resist isn't the best itemization), and you don't hound them if they don't listen.

In your case, if you just said it once, I don't think you're at fault at all for trying to give them that advice - and in fact that's what chat's supposed to be used for.

giantZorg4/17/2018, 1:32:11 PM1 votes

Well, you see, since I'm challenjour (only my teams holding me back), I'm clearly more proficient than anyone else in the game, so they shall not talk down onto me \s Probably not always, some people just have no clue and don't like being told what to do. Remembers me of an old game where I played with a thunderlords Soraka who thought I flamed her after suggesting taking windspeakers in the next games.

EL HAMSTERO4/17/2018, 6:11:37 PM1 votes

a lot of times if you try to give advice it comes off like you think you are smarter than them and they need your wisdom.

its going to rub a lot of people the wrong way

NikoC20164/17/2018, 4:57:03 AM1 votes

if youre genuinely trying to be constructive i see no harm. it is a team game after all

Arisha the Dark4/17/2018, 5:58:07 AM1 votes

Many good answers. Probably I won't add anything new, but I'll still share my opinion.

It all depends on what you see as advice. If you just telling people "they have Mundo, please build those 2 items, it'll help us against him", that's absolutely fine. But if you telling people "buy those 2 items if you want to win and if you won't just sur at 15", that is not an advice.

Ph03n1xdust4/17/2018, 11:15:00 AM1 votes

Using the chat is bad in every game mode. Since Rito defends all the snowflakes who get hurt by an advice, you risk gettin' banned by using the chat.