Did I really deserve a 14 day ban for this chat log?

Moakmeister·12/3/2019, 2:29:24 AM·4 votes·2,293 views

I was banned for 14 days within a few minutes of this match ending. It says these chat messages were reported by the other players. All I have is my own messages, and I was nowhere near the most toxic player this game. Also, annoyingly, it doesn't show which ones were in alI chat. I promise this is all of it and not changed. Did I deserve this ban?

Game 1 In-Game Moakmeister: power spike at 0/14, gl Moakmeister: you realize you dont get your ult until level 6 right Moakmeister: if i had any mana Moakmeister: any mana on this earth Moakmeister: thanks for the map awareness veigar Moakmeister: ty
Moakmeister: amumu top Moakmeister: im just gonna leave Moakmeister: mumu top Moakmeister: shoulda thrown an ax at herald Moakmeister: woulda finished him off Moakmeister: i was watching his buff bar Moakmeister: his ult ended Moakmeister: why didnt you just kill him Moakmeister: duuuuude Moakmeister: i wanted the stax Moakmeister: off turret Moakmeister: leona you literally left me to die Moakmeister: no there werent Moakmeister: ty Moakmeister: what da fuq was dat Moakmeister: ok dude Moakmeister: we get it Moakmeister: trynd is there Moakmeister: we were teamfighting Moakmeister: you realize Moakmeister: was in a teamfight Moakmeister: oof that wasnt too good Moakmeister: what did i do Moakmeister: GUYS Moakmeister: LET ME GET STACKS FOR FUCKS SAKE Moakmeister: jinx maybe then you should let me get some more Moakmeister: instead of just taking everything Moakmeister: i have one kill from a fight you were in with me Moakmeister: okay i inted that one. not sure what i was thingking. Moakmeister: im not really sure what my plan was with that one Moakmeister: dude if i leave then either ill get picked off or y'all will get killed in a teamfight Moakmeister: oof Moakmeister: no Moakmeister: gg

8 Comments

KFCeytron12/3/2019, 2:54:07 AM4 votes

Okay, first things first:

If you misbehave but a teammate or opponent does or says something even worse, you should definitely report them after the match, just as someone reported you for your own misbehavior. Yes, that's certainly possible. Reports are not a limited resource. Any time someone believes that another player violated LoL's behavioral standards, they can report that player. Punishments are similarly not limited: if more than one player in a game merits a punishment, they can both get a punishment. This can happen even if the players in question were antagonizing each other. The IFS doesn't need to weigh the severity of all reported players' actions and then "award" the "winner" with a punishment; it's not a contest.

Think of it like dealing with a noisy person in a library: ask them to keep it down, and then notify library staff and move to another area if that doesn't work. If you get into a shouting match with them, you're just as likely to be removed, even if you weren't shouting quite as loudly as they were. The goal is a quiet library.

The only chat messages included in your chat log are your own for a single, extremely good reason: they are the only ones taken into account for your punishment, because they're the only ones in your control. The things other players said and did in your match might produce in you an impulse to do certain things that may include breaking LoL's rules, but your behavior is your own, and you are responsible for it. If you really think about it, this is a good thing. If a toxic player's goading could exempt you from punishment for your flaming them, calling for reports, etc., then it would logically go the other way as well, resulting in punishments for players who didn't necessarily break any rules but weren't quite as friendly and positive as their teammates. Can you imagine a world where "didn't participate in the dance party and ignored all of our jokes" was a valid report that could get someone suspended for two weeks? We don't want that situation anymore than we want "called our support a braindead waste of space" to be considered an invalid report just because, say, the support was telling their team to harm themselves while they merrily ran it down mid.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, I must admit that I'm kind of struggling with this particular log. It might be that the mild bickering is something you do very frequently, and it just built up. If you'd had two prior punishments (10-game and 25-game chat restrictions), the next punishment would be a 14-day. If you don't have prior punishments, definitely send in a ticket. If you've had two chat restrictions before... maybe still send in a ticket, to see if you can get a bit more background on it.

Blam12/3/2019, 2:34:37 AM3 votes

must have pissed off a rioter

Tele II12/3/2019, 3:03:38 AM3 votes

Honestly, its not bad. They probably would justify it by saying you were arguing and bickering too much in chat, but I gotta say, this is like the first log that I disagree with punishing for. I dont believe there is anything in the rules that would make this a violation. Like, harassment? Arguing? I guess, sort of... but damn. Thats a pretty rough one. You might be able to get it reversed if you send in a support ticket, using manners, asking for a second look to see if you could get the punishment lessened or reversed.

Summoner SpeII12/3/2019, 3:25:56 AM2 votes

"i inted that one" system detected the word int, proceeds to go bonkers and ape shit on you, unfortunate never type the word int, please its for your own safety, type anything instead.

Clockwork Mouse12/3/2019, 6:51:12 AM2 votes

Nope, not at all. Being punished for being toxic shouldn't be a thing