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Automated punishment system is a joke

CurlyBastard·12/3/2019, 10:57:36 AM·2 votes·2,233 views

You've probably heard countless people complain about how they got banned over 'innocent' comments such as I HOPE YOU END UP EATING A PINEAPPLE PIZZA and worse. However, what happened to me is that I've seen myself being toxic as hell on my smurf (now level 25 or sth). I literally use that account to vent my frustrations. I expected it to get banned within weeks. I'm pretty sure if Tribunal was around that account would have been banned countless times by now. However, I always avoid the trigger words and people around me don't. This is crucial because:

The account is still doing well and I've got a lot of IFS informing me that people around me were punished for their toxic behavior (I always report tho). Meanwhile my account is intact and climbing in honor ranks even though I disgust myself with my behavior lol. The automated system looks like a really bad computer science project. It only detects keywords but sucks at recognizing them oftentimes (example: the k word where you replace 'S' with a '5').

Idk, looks like my toxic account will even make it to 30 so I'll have to stop venting there XD

13 Comments

Umbral Regent12/3/2019, 2:46:53 PM5 votes

I think you're working off of two big misconceptions here;

That the IFS is an entirely automated, autonomous system that surveys and punishes without any input required;
That the IFS works solely off of "trigger words" and that simply by avoiding said trigger words, you can avoid punishment.

Neither of these two statements are true.

The IFS, while being an automated system, is not always autonomously active 100% of the time. Despite "automated system" being the nomenclature, it does require an initial input in order to function; that initial input, of course, being a report.

If you haven't been punished despite flaming a lot on that account (however frequently or infrequently you play on that account), it is probable that you simply aren't being reported for one reason or another. The IFS needs a report to trigger a review and subsequent punishment, as a report is really the only way that someone can indicate to the system "this player was bugging me and might have been breaking the rules".

So, barring all other possible details, that is the most likely reason (even if it is unlikely) that you're not getting punished on that alt account. No report = no review = no action.

As for the misconception about trigger words;

A lot of people have this idea that the IFS simply scans chat for specific trigger words/keywords that constitute misbehavior; "garbage", "feed", "idiot", "trash", "uninstall", etc., and, while it does have some such functionality, that's reserved for zero-tolerance chat - hate speech and encouragements of self-harm. Stuff where the actual content of misbehavior is in such a small breadth that a keyword search would actually feasibly function.

The reality of it is, the IFS is built to actually read people's chat logs and determine what they were saying. It's a machine-learning system, and a substantially complex one at that. You can read any number of posts here on Player Behavior and you'll see many an example of low-key toxicity that uses zero "trigger words" getting punished.

So, no; the IFS doesn't work exclusively off of trigger words, and avoiding "trigger words" isn't actually going to help you avoid punishment. Toxicity isn't confined to some set-specific words, and you can be punished for being toxic without using those words.

Ashe mage AD12/3/2019, 11:02:08 AM3 votes

I used to avoid trigger words as well but that's outdated. Who the fk needs chat anymore? Like seriously, I pity some of you toxic fks, you wanna vent sometimes and no one even got chat turned on xD That's so evil. It's perfect.

Clockwork Mouse12/3/2019, 7:31:17 PM1 votes

The amount of effort they put into punishing people for saying things they believe is wrong really shows the Chinese influences.