Riot Employee sending me in circles

Jihibukai·9/5/2018, 9:58:01 PM·2 votes·2,187 views

(As I forgot to put in the original post, I do believe I should have gotten a couple days banned for my actions, but a 14-day and a threat of permaban for a first offense is excessive)

I got a 14-day suspension and threatened to be permabanned if it ever happened again for my FIRST offense ever in 5 years because I was flamed in champ select, played a champ I didn't know in the jungle, had blue and red stolen at lvl 1, and made a poor decision to run it down 4 times in the toxic teammates lane. I then decided I should stop and that wasn't the way to handle it and tried to help get kills, in which by this point, my bot lane was already 0-6 and my top lane toxic teammate then decided he was going to int. So I by this point, my entire jungle was warded and everyone on the enemy team could one shot me literally...I was playing Eve against a talon who pushed q w and I was dead. So for this FIRST offense, where I tried correcting myself mid game, I get a 14 day ban and threatened to be permabanned. While the toxic troll Miss Fortune top could die 16 times inting and get away perfectly fine. The only good thing that came from this is the employee I talked to, though I think I scared him, did apologize and say he'll look into the other players NOW.

But when I brought up that a first offense should be a one or two day suspension that doubles/triples with each ban within a time frame, and not an instant 14 day with a threat of permaban, he pointed me to this board and said I could voice my concerns here, and that this would be the place to go for that. Making it seem like the employee was genuinely trying to send me to the right people, I followed the link. When I get here I see that there's a post pinned that specifically says they will not over rule bans and its not a place to change how the punishment system works...In other words, riot tells us all 'screw you, rant all you want here, we don't want to deal with you' and the employees, knowingly send you in a circle and intentionally send you here so they wont have to deal with you anymore.

Now, a little backstory about myself to explain just how badly riot has slapped me in the face with this.

When I first started league in 2012, my roommate told me to download the game, pick ashe, and play the tutorial until I figured the game out, then we could play together. After 3 days, I was still so lost that I quit and didn't pick the game up for another year. In which I then self taught myself through play and youtube videos. I have now been playing for 5 years and have never had a warning, a ban, or a chat restriction. I even have made accounts on 3 servers and multiple accounts on NA that I start new so i can help teach new players how to play the game so they aren't on their own trying to figure it out with people constantly yelling at them. I watch every professional league, i buy merchandise and have an addiction to buying new skins on here, and I try to help teach new players the game. And all I ever get in return on my main account is told to kill myself on a weekly if not daily basis by teammates, people who admit to feeding in champ select then ruin my games, and nothing but flamers, which i admit, on my main account has started to turn me into a flamer (in which i just mute all chat now to help myself) and riot rarely ever does anything about it. But i choose to make a poor choice for 5 minutes in a 20 minute game and i instantly get a 14 day and a threat of permaban. Then I get sent around in circles because no one wants to actually listen to me.

I have lost all faith in riot and now know they don't care about anyone and all they ever want to do is make money. You can see it in the case they had a year or two ago where they almost lost all of their NA and EU pro teams because of them trying to control sponsorship and relegations. And then you look at how the justice system works, and this right here just shows they don't actually care about the players or the community. I'm not saying I don't deserve to be punished for the game in question. But 14 and a threat is excessive for a first offense on someone who actually gets honored often, qualifies for every free gift for honor, and has never been punished before in 5 years.

23 Comments

HalcyonDweller9/5/2018, 10:10:59 PM6 votes

Well the Rioter was right about one thing, this is the place to go if you want to advocate for a change to the system. But you're going to have a difficult time persuading people if it looks like you're only here out of your own self-interest.

Inting is punished pretty severely, because it ruins games for people. Just because another player acted poorly in your game doesn't mean it's suddenly okay for you to act poorly too. We are all held to the same standards in this game, if we misbehave, we get punished. It won't matter if we are the instigators or if we are retaliating against someone who instigated against us.

Until you're willing to accept and understand the reasons behind the rules, you're going to have a hard time getting people to understand or agree with you.

bbc world order9/5/2018, 10:03:24 PM3 votes

so.. let me get this.. you expected NOT to be banned and you ran it down your teammates lane FOUR times?

gabetheguy9/5/2018, 10:56:50 PM2 votes

lol you legit admitted to running it down because you threw a temper tantrum. children shouldn't play league.

Int Like Rickon9/5/2018, 10:26:18 PM2 votes

Clearly there are situations that warrant going straight to a 14-day ban and this was one of them. Others include using racist or homophobic slurs or encouraging self-harm. If somebody ran it down in your game wouldn't you be here shouting for them to get banned? Why are you important enough to ruin a game for at least the 4 other players on your team and not expect harsh punishment?

BIG DADDY CHAD9/5/2018, 10:32:24 PM1 votes

LOL why am I the only one who thinks this is way over the top? I got a 2-week ban for doing LESS than this. Yet their employees can go around belittling their customers. GG riot. I just bought the High Noon Bundles and I get rewarded with 14 days for asking the enemy team to report a toxic player. GG.

Mc Truck9/6/2018, 6:12:42 AM1 votes

I don't think riot should keep their policy of dishing out bans for chat - some words can indeed get you banned for two weeks or permanently on the first offense and it wouldn't be acceptable on the 100th one.

But you are not that case. You get better treatment than a lot of people just saying words and you should be thankful for the second chance after what you have done. Intentionally feeding(which should be distinguished from intentionally dying, but people fail to do so sometimes) is inexcusable. Your conditions, history or personal views do not matter.

In my opinion, intentional feeding should be treated as close as it gets to cheating bans: it's just as difficult to detect and it fucking sucks to lose such an unfair match. The only reason it should not be an instant permaban - it's too easy to do, due to the nature of the game.

So I have a question - how dare you even showing up here and claiming your punishment is too harsh?

mlm olo mlm9/6/2018, 3:43:56 PM1 votes

You should be ok with offering/discussing changes to the player behavior system here. It's been done before, by a Rioter even.

Worst case scenario, the moderator deletes it.