"Toxic" players actually love you.

Chief Troll··8 votes·1,474 views

Fuck this PC Culture. Stop being little bitches and take it like a man when you fuck up, you'll come out stronger in the end instead of hiding behind some Politically Correct curtain that mommy put up for you.. Someone is only being an asshole to you when you fuck up because deep down they want you to do better. It's like when you're 4 and you push a girl you like. You're doing it to get her attention.

If Riot were to completely turn off the punishment system for 1/2 a season and let players sort things out themselves, the natural chaos would inevitably turn into a place where the people that were "toxic" are actually more focused on helping the other players that are doing things completely wrong, instead, after the initial "Fuck you noob" these players are banned/chat restricted only to exacerbate the emotions and say "fuck the system".

The numbers Riot provides are complete bullshit. .002% of players are toxic or whatever that dumbass percent is. It's more like 20-35% of players are toxic, if not higher.

Built in voice comms would also help prevent toxicity and help teamplay. What the fuck year is this that a MMO doesn't have voice comms? Get with it you fucking noobs, Riot.

By the way, I love you.

36 Comments

redniwediS10 votes

I don't care for PC culture, but I also don't care for toxic behavior.

When I mess up I know it, you know it, and the enemy knows it. I don't need someone pointing out the obvious to me. Give my ability to process information some respect and let me face my obvious mistake on my own. If I want some input from the peanut gallery I'll ask.

Chief Troll1 votes

Then explain making the same mistake more than once. Seems as if you didn't learn the first time and could have asked that person that said "You stupid fuck, what are you doing!" what you were doing wrong to gain some insight into it so it doesn't occur again.

redniwediS8 votes

If I make the same mistake more than once it's because I'm tilted, or I'm distracted by something, or I'm just an idiot. I don't need some random tool telling me what I already know.

Calling someone captain obvious isn't a compliment after all.

Chief Troll2 votes

Get out of my ranked game, idiot.

redniwediS4 votes

Or you could not be an overly touchy guy and just deal with it. I like that option better.

Chief Troll2 votes

Deal with what? Your continuous poor decision making that loses your teammates games? Looks like you're the asshole here...

redniwediS3 votes

Not really. If, and yes I said if before, I do that I'm an idiot, a moron, a tilted fool who doesn't know when to stop playing, but not an asshole. An asshole is someone who feels the need to point out the obvious and belittle others.

Besides, it's not like you go the friendly reminder route anyway, you go straight to asshole.

So yes, learn to deal with the fact that people make mistakes in your game. No need to have a temper tantrum and think it's constructive for the other guy.

Chief Troll1 votes

http://take.ms/ur8Ik6

You, for not playing normals and jeopardizing 4 other player's chances at achieving their proper rank.

redniwediS2 votes

You see, the difference here is intent. I, in this hypothetical situation, am not trying to play poorly. You, on the other hand, have chosen to be an asshole.

If you can't see the difference now then we have nothing more to talk about.

Chief Troll1 votes

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redniwediS1 votes

I see you're no longer reading anything I have to say, or at least you're not reading it well enough to understand what I'm actually saying.

You have a good weekend mate. Hopefully you make fewer assumptions when you're enjoying the holiday with your family, because no one likes an idiotic argument around the table.

PillCosbyDoeBoy2 votes

Nah homie. The first time was a mistake, Second time was a choice. I'm going to treat you like the dog who shit on the rug.

redniwediS1 votes

Then you're going to be breaking the terms of service and deserve the report.

It's really not that hard to not be a terrible excuse for a human being. Try it sometime.

PillCosbyDoeBoy1 votes

It's really hard. We might as well get rid of Social Darwinism.

redniwediS1 votes

It's not hard at all mate. Try it sometime and you'll see.

Also this thread is almost two weeks old. Let it die already.

PillCosbyDoeBoy1 votes

I'll pass.

DemothHymside7 votes

"Don't be a sensitive little bitch".

This coming from someone having a nervous breakdown over a videogame. Got it.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Your name checks out.

EDIT: According to your logic then, all the toxic people that flame us to get our attention are acting like 4 year olds.

Chief Troll1 votes

Well, if you're going to dive into it, that would mean a 4 year old has a better understanding of the game than you, as they're trying to get your attention and help you improve. =/

ChaosReignsDown3 votes

I actually agree. I don't think there is another way to say it though. So many safe space sensitive pansies play this game now. Just had one the other day, he actually walked in as voli jg and fed bot lane.. Me and the adc were at the base.. there was NO reason to even try to gank or come in. I asked " Why would you go in and feed a Cait?" and he starts saying I am flaming him and proceed to say he was reporting me and int feeding because "I was mean to him."

OP is right.. people need to grow a set and toughen up. Most of these people shouldn't be on the internet if every little thing is going to trigger you and send you to your safe space with a coloring book.

Edit: And for people that will say that players shouldnt have to deal with it.. they don't.. its called Muting.

redniwediS1 votes

There's a difference between what you said and what the OP says. You're asking a question, where as the OP is attempting to use negative emotions to alter the behavior of his allies.

He doesn't exactly say that in his original post, but you might want to read his other comments before saying you agree with him.

bad arcade kitty2 votes

games are certainly better with banter

JedenVojak2 votes

I approve of this message.

TheAlmightyButt2 votes

As someone who's been here since season 2, I can say with utmost certainty that being toxic helps absolutely no one. If your argument is that players need to be told that they're doing things incorrectly, there's more gentle, effective, and constructive ways of informing them.

For example, rather than spamming "GG TEAM SUCKS" in all chat for twenty minutes before an ff like I'm sure you've been known to do, how about instead saying "Hey lee, can you please gank my lane more? I'm a bit behind and your help could let me catch up."

Saying things like that instead of mindless and imprecise flaming are much more likely to get a positive response. But one thing I've learned over the course of playing this game is that you can't control what people will do. Whether you're screaming or politely asking, there's no guarantee one way or another, which makes screaming like an angry child doubly pointless. Take some advice from everyone's grandpa ever; "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything."

wishbone251 votes

so pref losing 50% of the game being toxic GG mate that is how it goes down !! GG mate summoner 14

midnight oil241 votes

I think that there's a really big difference between shoving a girl when you're four and verbally harassing someone on the internet. Sure, both can be chalked up to immaturity, but it's not socially acceptable to be acting like that when you're older Also, I'm sorry I don't want to be called the f-slur. I guess I'm just misinterpreting a slur that has been used in hate speech for decades (sarcasm).

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

Some people don't want to deal with people cursing them out for making a mistake on a completely meaningless online game. Especially when they know they messed up, and the people the are matched with are the same elo.

Aszblaster jax1 votes

when i first read the title i was ready to downvote but then i read the article and your completely right

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

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If Riot were to completely turn off the punishment system for 1/2 a season and let players sort things out themselves, the natural chaos would inevitably turn into a place where the people that were "toxic" are actually more focused on helping the other players that are doing things completely wrong, instead, after the initial "Fuck you noob" these players are banned/chat restricted only to exacerbate the emotions and say "fuck the system".

By helping the other players, you mean running it down mid while calling everyone a twigged-naga-starman-exposed-clam if someone on the team gives first blood right? Because I'd rather not have that 5 games in a row.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Yes. Being an asshole at people makes them want to change. That is totally how human nature works.

Z Statistic1 votes

Can confirm. People being an asshole to me has increased my life satisfaction, my annual salary, my outlook on life, my girlfriend's affection towards me, my penis size, and of course gotten me Diamond so I can get more bitches.

People who behave poorly are not doing out of love or care for their fellow players. Don't try to dress it up. Just accept that you're being a douche for selfish, stupid, idiotic reasons (most of the time) and move on, and I'll accept the fact that the opening line to my post is not a joke/sarcasm but actual reality (except for getting diamond obviously).

Trying to defend that kind of behavior as good or decent or helpful isn't going to work because even if you throw out all the snowflakes and their hurt feelings, there is still a standard of behavior even on the internet. That doesn't mean I want you banned, but it does mean I would rather not play with you because I'd rather play with adults who have creative, raunchy banter instead of children who just learned what 'fuck' is.

Anomander1 votes

I am not one for SJW or Pc behavior.

I believe if you want to act like a fucking moron that is your own choice.

I also believe in the rights of others not to have to put up with fucking morons.

I also believe in the right for a company to say we don't want fucking morons doing business with us.

So now I ask you. Are you a fucking moron? I can't answer it for you. However based on your actions I have my own opinion.

Krigjer1 votes

It's like when you're 4 and you push a girl you like. You're doing it to get her attention.

You just compared toxic players to children.

Also, when you become an adult, you realize that this behavior isn't how you should treat people. Poor anology.

Built in voice comms would also help prevent toxicity and help teamplay. What the fuck year is this that a MMO doesn't have voice comms? Get with it you fucking noobs, Riot.

Riot does not need their own built in communication. Curse.voice and Discord are free to use and small to download.

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