Why do some players have to be so mean?

Simlandaiea·Oct 12, 2016·3 votes·871 views

I'm decently new to the game and I really enjoy it. I don't think I'm awful but obviously I'm learning. I just got laid off and things haven't been great. I enjoy playing this game and it takes my mind off of things but then players are so mean sometimes. There is obviously friendly and helpful people and the honor initiative is great but I literally just left a game (I know that's not polite) because all 4 members were attacking me for my champion choice. I like a certain character and feel comfortable with her, why do people have to be mean? And now I will probably be in trouble for leaving but I wasn't about to spend 45 minutes being tormented by these people.

23 Comments

MagicFlyingLlamaOct 12, 20167 votes

Welcome to free pvp games.

free pvp games attract bratty children. Bratty children have no control, no social skills, and usually have massive arrogance problems coupled with horrible self-esteem and a need to trash other people to make themselves feel less meaningless.

Apply mute freely.

SimlandaieaOct 12, 20161 votes

It's just frustrating because chat plays a big roll in strategy and such.. so disappointing. I hope reporting does something

MagicFlyingLlamaOct 13, 20162 votes

It does do something, and you will see far less of that nonsense in lv30 normal games. The scum mostly gets weeded out by 30, although a good deal pools in bronze.

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20161 votes

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The scum mostly gets weeded out by 30, although a good deal pools in bronze.

False! Lol it stays scummy in every ELO.

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20161 votes

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It's just frustrating because chat plays a big roll in strategy and such.. so disappointing. I hope reporting does something

How can you report them when you leave?

SimlandaieaOct 13, 20161 votes

I only have ever left that one game. I'm speaking of other games there.

TheSeltzerBaronOct 13, 20161 votes

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It's just frustrating because chat plays a big roll in strategy and such.. so disappointing. I hope reporting does something

Chat only plays a role in strategy when you have people who actually care. Seems like the majority of people just chat to get a rise out of people. Muting people who harass you won't have any effect on strategy since those people don't seem to care about teamwork anyway.

VictrazeOct 13, 20162 votes

They are angry because they have never lost a game of anything ever in their lives and they feel if they lose even one time their heads will explode.

EmojayOct 12, 20161 votes

That's league for ya.... Sigh...

ShinkoMinoriOct 13, 20161 votes

Every game you try you need a guide, if you play without a guide and you are learning a new game then you are a low effort troll. Its like trying chess without learning its rules or its openings and mid game and late game.

In other words, think about not making it hard for your team to play with you instead of jumping head first into something you have no clue what to do and you wont attract toxicity.

SimlandaieaOct 13, 20162 votes

I hardly think that's fair. It's not like I know nothing and I've had some very good matches. I look things up that I don't understand and practiced in Ai quite a bit. I feel like you're justifying their behaviour which isn't cool.

ShinkoMinoriOct 13, 20161 votes

You need to:

Go to OP.GG
Go to Lolking
Go to Champion.gg
Watch Twitch Streams
Watch Youtube guides
Learn ingame concepts that you can only know by researching in the above

Practicing against AI doesnt help at all. The AI is predictable and stupid its very easy to win. You should stop blaming everyone else and think why they react like that and improve yourself.

Also you should know the majority of people that answers your posts are silver/bronze and unranked so they don't do any of the above hence why they are silver and bronze. Unless you want to end up like them then go ahead and complain about others while not improving at all

President Swa1nOct 13, 20161 votes

I sympathise with you and I see this as an issue for the game's growth if it isn't fixed.

PLEASE add me, I'd LOVE to duo with you. I promise I won't flame.

SchmidttyGamesOct 13, 20161 votes

It doesn't get any better. The feeling of being overmatched by years of experience is real, and your teammates all expect you to know more than they do, no matter how few games you've played. I'm officially over it. You can't learn anything out there other than how to get pulverized because 8-9 out of 10 people in my games have years of experience I just don't have.

If you can find a way to make this fun, please spread the word, because there is no place for new people out there.

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20161 votes

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It doesn't get any better. The feeling of being overmatched by years of experience is real, and your teammates all expect you to know more than they do, no matter how few games you've played. I'm officially over it. You can't learn anything out there other than how to get pulverized because 8-9 out of 10 people in my games have years of experience I just don't have.

If you can find a way to make this fun, please spread the word, because there is no place for new people out there.

Ya it really doesn't get any better. As for making it fun... it's not all about experience. It's how you learn and apply what you've learned in your experience. A lot of people stay bronze for years because they don't think deeper about their own flaws and mistakes... they choose to just blame their allies.

I'd say the only way to make it fun, is to get good (though there will always be flamers regardless of division.. but they become easy to ignore when you're secure with yourself. It's just a game, not a reflection of your worth as a human being) and to get good you do actually need to take things in and remember them and apply them.

When you get flamed, not everyone just calls you trash and tells you to uninstall.. some people actually throw in good advice before they completely trash you.

Try to discern between the illogical flamers that just vaguely call you trash without reason and the logical flamers who actually tell you what you did wrong and then call you trash. When you get that arrogant player that's telling the team what to do, maybe try listening to him, he might actually know, regardless of how much of an ass he is.

Watch videos on how to get out of ELO hell. When to dragon, when to back, when to split, when to roam. There's so many helpful videos out there. You won't escape ELO hell anytime soon just by watching them... but you will learn. You will then see your allies making these mistakes that you got over because you learned why they're mistakes. And then 20% of the time, you will start to affect wins for your side. You'll still lose a lot, but in those close games, your performance will be the difference, and that feels good. I've had plenty of games where I'm like wow if I didn't play good that game, we definitely would've lost.

Just accept that you're not that good at the game, and identify YOUR mistakes, not your allies' mistakes, and you'll get better. Ignorant players do not improve. They think they're good and choose to blame their mistakes on their allies. Don't be ignorant, be secure with the fact that you're still learning strategies and improving your mechanical skills, and their insults will slide off you. If you're insecure, the insults will hurt and you won't have fun. Focus on improving yourself, accept you're trash for now, and enjoy the process of getting better... that's all it takes to make the game fun xD

SchmidttyGamesOct 13, 20161 votes

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Ya it really doesn't get any better. As for making it fun... it's not all about experience. It's how you learn and apply what you've learned in your experience. A lot of people stay bronze for years because they don't think deeper about their own flaws and mistakes... they choose to just blame their allies.

I'd say the only way to make it fun, is to get good (though there will always be flamers regardless of division.. but they become easy to ignore when you're secure with yourself. It's just a game, not a reflection of your worth as a human being) and to get good you do actually need to take things in and remember them and apply them.

When you get flamed, not everyone just calls you trash and tells you to uninstall.. some people actually throw in good advice before they completely trash you.

Try to discern between the illogical flamers that just vaguely call you trash without reason and the logical flamers who actually tell you what you did wrong and then call you trash. When you get that arrogant player that's telling the team what to do, maybe try listening to him, he might actually know, regardless of how much of an ass he is.

Watch videos on how to get out of ELO hell. When to dragon, when to back, when to split, when to roam. There's so many helpful videos out there. You won't escape ELO hell anytime soon just by watching them... but you will learn. You will then see your allies making these mistakes that you got over because you learned why they're mistakes. And then 20% of the time, you will start to affect wins for your side. You'll still lose a lot, but in those close games, your performance will be the difference, and that feels good. I've had plenty of games where I'm like wow if I didn't play good that game, we definitely would've lost.

Just accept that you're not that good at the game, and identify YOUR mistakes, not your allies' mistakes, and you'll get better. Ignorant players do not improve. They think they're good and choose to blame their mistakes on their allies. Don't be ignorant, be secure with the fact that you're still learning strategies and improving your mechanical skills, and their insults will slide off you. If you're insecure, the insults will hurt and you won't have fun. Focus on improving yourself, accept you're trash for now, and enjoy the process of getting better... that's all it takes to make the game fun xD

I've spent more time studying this game than actually playing it. But you have to apply what you've learned in a practical setting in order for it to incorporate. In my second Jungle Game, I got smashed by a mid-lane "smurf" 2:30 into the game during my clears who proceeded to tell me how much I suck at this. Well thanks for telling me something I already know. I'm still learning how to jungle clear, why are you down here picking on new people? It made me hesitant to do anything the rest of the game because I felt overmatched from go. Then my teammates got on to me. "Why aren't you helping lanes?" Because I don't know how!

The same mid-laner that ruined my day proceeded to tell that I was lying and I wasn't new. It was interesting to be psycho-analyzed by a clairvoyant gamer. Unique experience to say the least, except he/she was dead wrong on all counts.

This is standard for me, every game now. 100% of the time someone is crapping on someone, and it's really hard to justify continuing to fight for it when I know what to expect, and that it will not get any better.

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EEd6WLXl,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-10-13T17:46:50.935+0000)

I've spent more time studying this game than actually playing it. But you have to apply what you've learned in a practical setting in order for it to incorporate. In my second Jungle Game, I got smashed by a mid-lane "smurf" 2:30 into the game during my clears who proceeded to tell me how much I suck at this. Well thanks for telling me something I already know. I'm still learning how to jungle clear, why are you down here picking on new people? It made me hesitant to do anything the rest of the game because I felt overmatched from go. Then my teammates got on to me. "Why aren't you helping lanes?" Because I don't know how!

The same mid-laner that ruined my day proceeded to tell that I was lying and I wasn't new. It was interesting to be psycho-analyzed by a clairvoyant gamer. Unique experience to say the least, except he/she was dead wrong on all counts.

This is standard for me, every game now. 100% of the time someone is crapping on someone, and it's really hard to justify continuing to fight for it when I know what to expect, and that it will not get any better.

Ya the flaming will never stop. But imagine when you do figure out how to jungle and the times you save someone's lane and pull off perfect ganks. That's the fun I'm talking about. Learning to ignore and not be bothered by the flaming might be a personality thing that some people will never get over so idk if that's you then ya it might not ever be fun.

CrazyBear1987Oct 13, 20161 votes

I've said this before and i'll say it again.

Human nature. Feelsbadman

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20161 votes

Damn man... should've just muted all if you didn't wanna spend a match being tormented by them. Leaving just opens ya up to punishments. You could've had the same result (not being tormented) and avoided punishment by typing /mute all.

Mister PunchesOct 13, 20162 votes

Personally for me, I have the automatic assumption that someone is toxic in League unless proven otherwise, and mute every single person in the game. Post chat is where I usually see where all the toxicity is. I started muting every single person in every single one of my games at the beginning of this season, and honestly, I feel like my gameplay got immensely better as a result when I do spend time to play the game seriously.

I feel like the community as a whole is toxic, because there really hasn't been that many people proving my assumption otherwise. There have been a lot of people on this forum (specifically, the behavior and moderation forum), who have been heavily reinforcing my assumption though. I know that it's an incorrect assumption and that the vast majority that play League are not toxic, but probably do not communicate vocally, which leaves the minority who are toxic and communicate vocally.

I have no problem ingame because I never see chat ingame. I have a problem with postgame, because I can't mute in the postgame, and like I said, it's where I usually see the toxicity in this game.

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mister Punches,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EEd6WLXl,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-10-13T06:30:51.184+0000)

Personally for me, I have the automatic assumption that someone is toxic in League unless proven otherwise, and mute every single person in the game. Post chat is where I usually see where all the toxicity is. I started muting every single person in every single one of my games at the beginning of this season, and honestly, I feel like my gameplay got immensely better as a result when I do spend time to play the game seriously.

I feel like the community as a whole is toxic, because there really hasn't been that many people proving my assumption otherwise. There have been a lot of people on this forum (specifically, the behavior and moderation forum), who have been heavily reinforcing my assumption though. I know that it's an incorrect assumption and that the vast majority that play League are not toxic, but probably do not communicate vocally, which leaves the minority who are toxic and communicate vocally.

I have no problem ingame because I never see chat ingame. I have a problem with postgame, because I can't mute in the postgame, and like I said, it's where I usually see the toxicity in this game.

Meh it's not that wrong of an assumption. I mean, you're applying past experience to make judgements and if your experience has been mostly shitty then you're justified in expecting more shitty people.

Mister PunchesOct 13, 20161 votes

Internet Anonymity + Children online = Bad combination and a bunch of jerks online who are most likely expressing the frustrations that they are going through in real life towards another person.

Think of it this way: League is the MOBA version of Call of Duty. You have a bunch of players aged 13-17 as the majority audience, a lot of them are most likely gamers, and gamers tend to be the outcasts or unpopular kids who get bullied a lot in school. I was one of those type of people who got bullied a lot in school for playing video games, instead of playing football, or something. But, I didn't really play with other people, and mainly played SP games.

Their frustrations about real life + having absolutely no repercussions when harassing someone else = Toxic League of Legends community members.

Pretty much what I mentioned the first time, which I know for sure not many members of this community will enjoy me equating them to: League of Legends IS the MOBA version of Call of Duty. You have your elitists, you have your "pros", you have your jerks who like to ruin other peoples' days, you have the Youtuber, the streamer, and then you have the seeming minority of players who seem like they are decent people to talk to in real life. Then, you have the majority who don't communicate with the minority who do represent the community.

And, it will never get better. The community will only get worse the more popular it gets. The more people you attract to a game, the bigger it gets, and unfortunately, the more bad rep it gets from the community as a result. That's why you have games like WoW, League, Call of Duty, Pretty much the FGC, CSGO, etc, which all seem to have the reputation for having some of the worst communities to be in.

Shortened version: Gamer Kids <18 + Online interaction with others = Recipe for community disaster and a terrible cake to have.