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My 5th account - why it may get banned in a few days, and my feelings on it.

Kaisa Aran·3/2/2019, 9:21:24 PM·4 votes·3,287 views

**First of all this is by no means a complaint to Riot in terms of how they currently handle punishments or a statement that my ban is by any means unjust (if it happens), I'm well aware of how I've been behaving and I'm pretty damn sure I know how the system works when I've been pushed onto a 5th account. **But unlike the last three accounts I've had this makes me want to look back and just...talk about things, even if it leads to tons of downvotes and criticism from the community.

(There's a shorter summary of all this below if you don't care to read the entire thing, I can't blame you)

Yeah, I want to talk about why I may end up getting banned and the reasons it came to this mentally.

So, long story short my first four accounts all got banned for the same reason - extreme chat toxicity that was filter-sensitive (ZT words). None of that is surprising to anyone, I'm sure. This fifth account however has stood the test of time, currently being the second longest-lasting account (beaten by my original main account) I've kept & the one I've invested the most money & effort into. Hell it's even gone from Honor 0 and back to (currently) Honor 2, last April I was telling people to neck themselves in post-game chat & wasn't punished until a manual ban was issued. Sounds like I'm gloating but I'm just trying to convey this point: This account has been different from the others. It's lasted longer, avoided the same fate as the previous four and even come back from the brink of hell.

Why are things changing now, then?

Put simply, I'm tired. I'm on a 14 game loss streak currently and my ability to give a fuck has run dry. The second game in this loss streak is from a game we were up 4k in and guaranteed to win until our jungler AFK'd for the rest of the match, dooming us because 4v5's are hard as fuck - and that basically tilted me into the situation I'm in right now. Those were my Plat 2 promos, the highest I was gonna be this season - you can guess where my mental state went from there. I've lost my ability to care about winning, and even though I tried to clean my act up in the middle of all this (Games ~6-8) those all failed too despite me genuinely trying my best, so it plunged me even deeper. In other words...my mental is shot. I can't stop playing, but I also just can't give much of a fuck anymore when I feel like I've been cheated by life.

I tell people when they want to report me for soft inting that their reports don't mean shit, and while that is technically true (the system can't and will likely never be able to detect soft inting - passive aggressive behavior in chat will never get autopunished either, FYI) it does do a number to my mental. I'm doing exactly what I hate - ruining games for other people because I've stopped giving a fuck. And it does get to me, even if I keep playing and doing it I still end up regretting it at the end of the day.

You can tell me that I should take a break, and you're probably right. But I want to do well in this game so badly, I'm addicted to it. I want to be able to show my parents that I'm doing things with my time and truly being a productive person, and that I can make all their worrying worth it. And yet at the same time I'm doing the same shit over and over - losing my mind because I can't get over the fact that it's just a damn game. And it sucks. It really sucks.

All of that is a bunch of rambling that I needed to let out so let me compose my thoughts into what this means for you. Put simply, don't ever get too invested into this game that you feel like you'll let down people if you don't play well - ESPECIALLY if you're an ADC player. You can laugh at me and say it'll never happen to you but don't get cocky - we all have our ups and downs but one bad day can escalate into something a whole lot worse if you never get over it. Same goes for the other way around, of course.

This account's very likely to get manual banned in a few days time either as a result of a Rioter viewing this thread and checking my replays/logs or from one of the tickets someone's filed against me. I know this because I've dealt with the automatic system for a long time, and that I've seen when things are bannable or not manually. So, looking back I just...I just hate it. I hate that this game brings out so much emotion and spite in me, and I hate that I lash out even in my own fucking promos (my 1st loss streak game) because I just want to get the better of someone who I think is being a dickweed. But I don't have the self control to keep myself in check, and I don't think I will for a couple more years. So, with that said...that's my story. Do whatever you want with it, this is just a thread meant for me to vent and get some of this stuff off my chest.

As a last note - Riot Tantram if you see this, I wanna know what you think about this whole scenario. What can I do? I've advocated for self-mute functions since my first ban and while MapleNectar will be investigating it sometime this year that'll only handle one portion of the problem. You have my respect because over the years I've watched you roast the everliving fuck out of obvious liars/toxic shitters and, well...I just want to hear your two cents. It'd mean a lot.

Thanks.

19 Comments

R107 Games3/2/2019, 9:38:47 PM3 votes

They should not issue bans for anything chat related, that's just bull shit.

They should also express in their ToS how they have a zero tolerance policy which includes hate speech, encouraging suicide, which is an automatic 14 day ban when the system catches it

ı Sona ı3/3/2019, 12:42:09 AM2 votes

Should take a break from the game/play a different position/use vastly different champions or strategies than what you normally do when you are on a losing streak.

Kaisa Aran3/2/2019, 9:38:53 PM2 votes

I feel like I should take the time to talk about some other stuff, just because I feel like it's good to spread awareness.

  • Multiple reports do not matter. Don't be a dumbass, it would be easily exploited by parties and even duos in Solo/Duo ranked. This is a huge misconception and when people wonder why they get punished for saying stuff like 'report X' and 'x9' it sort of...yeah, just shows that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Multiple don't matter, one is enough for the system to do a once over on your logs & trigger some other scans to see if you've performed bannable behavior.
  • Not all toxic players are genuine assholes who want to see you/your family/the world burn. Some toxic players (like me) just suck at self-control and would be really kind if you got to know us. Being on the internet gives a huge buffer zone where people feel free to do whatever they want without being punished IRL, like a place where you can vent and just have a ball. And, well...for me? I use it. I don't like that I'm mean to so many people, but I can't control myself to be better. Right now the most I can do is be honest about it and try to push away the notion that every player punished by the automatic/manual system is toxic, some people have a bad day and some just can't control their temper. Being a bad person online is not directly correlated to being a bad person IRL. *** Zero Tolerance Words will (most of the time) get you banned regardless of the severity.** Zero Tolerance Words are essentially words/statements that you'd only say to fuck with people and be an absolute dick - stuff like kys, neck yourself, jump into a cement mixer, even racist stuff like the N word. If you say a ZT word, even if it's with friends and for fun the automatic system won't care and you'll still usually get punished.
  • Riot has a great support team. When you do get to talk to a person at Riot on average they'll be pretty fucking dope and kind, though I will admit it varies based off the specific employee. In my full experience with them over the past 4 1/2 years I've met a lot of kind and well meaning Rioters who do care and are actual human beings behind the screen, and they do their job. Sure it's not everyone and I can understand the frusturation with copypasta responses (of which I've gotten and frankly hate with all my guts) but they are real people, they do exist, and they do mean well. Fix the communication issues though Riot like dear lord make sure they know what they're talking about (infamous Malzahar R can be cleansed example here). *** If you got punished, you're most likely guilty.** The system is a carefully refined filter that anaylzes your statements upon being triggered through a report and gives you a punishment based off the severity of your statements + the current standing of your account (whether it's been punished already or not) - it's not some dumb shit that picks and chooses who to ban. If you got punished you deserved it 95% of the time and I can guantee you that a lot of players are less honest about that then they'll care to admit. If you see this bullshit in Player Behavior or anywhere else, challenge them by asking them to send an uncropped reform ticket & entire discussion between them & a Rioter - usually they'll fudge something or come up with another excuse. Just speaking from experience here.

That's all, although I can't help but wonder if I'm missing something.

aNimblePeasant3/3/2019, 5:25:08 PM1 votes

My 8th account just got banned, time to flame on my 9th and mute all on my 10th account

dnsup3/2/2019, 10:59:02 PM1 votes

Your energy is being wasted on a game like LoL.

Malfectious3/2/2019, 9:55:47 PM1 votes

League aside for a minute....becuase this is not an in game problem. If you want this to stop you have to fix yourself. You are obviously an intelligent and thoughtful person, find a way to prevent yourself from getting to the point where you lose control. Maybe you need to walk away sooner....maybe give up on things like league that push you to your limits.

Shíníng Díamond3/3/2019, 12:54:03 AM1 votes

Hello!

I have a friend who's pretty toxic but he's never been banned for anything he says or does (Let's call him Joe). Joe rages in chat all the time, but for the most part everything he says there is not all that bad, mostly just frustrations that someone would do something stupid (we're in bronze elo so it's pretty bad lol). I think you just need a set of people who are willing to accept and tolerate you. Joe says all the shit he would normally get banned for in the discord, and when that happens we either mute him or tune him out. He's been there for me through a lot of personal stuff, and I know he deals with a lot of shit in his own home. So for him, being able to get that out and being able to be a hot head is how he establishes control over the circumstances he's been dealt. And even though we will find other people who join our group and play a lot of games consecutively with us, at some point or another they will come to me and complain about said toxicity.

While I don't condone the toxicity, I think sometimes he says some really mean things, I don't really care all that much because I enjoy his company. He's one of the funniest guys I know and for me that's enough to endure a few moments of rage ever ten minutes in a match. It's about the people you hang around. Friends won't report you yknow?