Got Fake Reports after games (Anti-Faker-report system is needed)

Cyndi Wang·6/24/2018, 4:35:06 PM·2 votes·3,371 views

Lux Server: Eu West Game ID: Cyndi Wang Details: Summoner's Rift >> Normal (Draft Pick) >> 18:28 >> 24/06/2018 >> S-/128 XP

Hello, I'm Cyndi Wang and this is my first time posting discussion in community. I'm a girl player and i love playing League of Legends with my friends.

I was S- score in end-part of the game. I behaved well the whole game, the few words i said in the game is 'gg' and 'xd' (the laugh is because the way I died was so funny). This is my original account and this game is normal draft, so i was not smurf because i can only play games this way. Nevertheless, i got 'Instantly Report Feedback' though i carried my team and behave well the whole game. The enemy team report me only because i played so well that they died in group fights as a consequence of all my spells hit them accurately.

Sometimes i could even be fake reported by my own team when i carried them. The reasons are varied:

For example, someone wants to surrender the game from the very beginning, if u don't vote yes in early ff, they will report feed or something else; Some new players don't understand why u leave him alone and drawback because of strategy needs, what you did right to game may teasing them because they don't know that was their fault causing their death and they blamed their team instead and report them after game.

In some games of 'ARAM' and 'Twisted Treeline', some players are intentionally playing in the same match and feed enemy teams on purpose. I don't know someone is behind this. I carried my team using Yorick (KDA was 22-4-15) with one brand player (a good KDA too, i can't remember details) even rest 3 of them were feeding more than 15 death in games intentionally, but i got a Fake 'Instantly Report Feedback' after game. My honor level dropped from lv2 to lv1 because of that game. It is obvious that some players are using these modes to get higher win rates data or xp after game. But this is not the fault of the players who want to win. If 'i want to win' and 'i carry the game' are supposed to be reported, then more and more good players will leave this game. Instead, more and more troll players will destroy the balance in games by troll play, words insulting, intentional afk. The rights of minority are not protected in games, and troll players will make more and more players get punished by wrongly using the report system.

The truth is, the report system and honor system themselves have a bug. And the troll players are now using this bug to attack players who want to behave well or win games. If the majority of the team wasn't planning to win at all, just enjoying fun watching the rest 1 or 2 minority to die because their watching aside or making them lose game. They will try all methods to piss them off or make them die so they can report them 'verbal abuse' or 'intentional feed'.

This is my opinion about report system and honor system's bug:

  1. Fake report. It is very common when a team lost the game, they would report some players in enemy team who played well (maybe he or she is the main reason they can't win) maliciously.

2.Majority party troll in games. Some troll players will enter the game as 4 players together. The target of them is never to win. I'm not kidding here and I'm talking about something serious. I experienced such games as my team were playing as 3 friends together. They troll and bad use the Chat channel from the very beginning. The common way is saying 'lol, you are gonna get banned' or 'xd, ****, just cry'. And after games, the 4 friends will report you together and before system test the content of chat, the 'reported player''s honor point has already decreased. The reported cannot do anything because the report can't take effect on the rest 4 troll players.

So what will happen after this game? (1)The troll players are happy because some of them maybe kids, they don't understand the consequence of verbal abuse on Internet to others. (2)The reported players will also know the bug of this report system and more likely to behave bad in following games. After all, system is not real human and the server can't support checking every games replay to see who is troll and who is not.

Both results are very terrible. And this kind of bad mood or behavior will effect their life as well.
The game itself has no fault.  But the problem of abusing report system needs to be fixed.

3. Report Threats Players will threaten other team to give them a report when himself was not doing well and hoping team to help him in a wrong way, which himself only can get benefits from the help. Like a mid player can threaten the jungle to babysit him always in lane and not gank other lane otherwise they will report them negative attitude or something else (If the jungler is a tank, he may die many times in group because he needs to take dmg and let adc or team to deal dmg, the team won the group fight and he died, this is definitely not feed but they died many times for sure).

This is another phenomenon of abusing report system in games.

  1. Honor point and Honor History invisible.

    Players can't know who reported them and the reason he or she is reported. And when they want to appeal for checking the Fake reports, there is no data from the server. I think the rules of report system should be clear to every player in this game. This will make them understand where he did wrong in games. And once they are fake reported by some players, they can find evidence to prove they did well in games. And the real trollers who report them as 'trollers' have no where to hide.

I'm a responsible player and i found solutions to make this game better:

  1. Restrict report amounts in a day As long as bad players cannot report everyone they met, they will abandon abusing of report system. Instead, they will consider seriously which kind of players really needs to improve their behaviors or attitudes.

    This is rule is very reasonable, because they system noticed me from my last ban saying ‘we believe most players are well behaved in this game and ... ’. So, most players are well behaved. Then, why some players doing report feedback after every game they played? It should be very little chance they can meet the players really needed to be reported.

My suggestion is: 1.Normal player---they can report at most 10 players in a day; 2. (Hidden Rule)Suspect player----they can only report 3 players or less in a day, because they continuously report other players (like every game or every one).

The suspect player rules can hide to public and remain in system itself.

So the system will tell who loves doing fake reports and break the balance of games. Everyone can only be noticed that they only have 10 chances in a day to report someone who they believe is a troll players. But if some players run out of 10 chances everyday, then we can learn he maybe intentionally abusing the report system.

2.Make a honor history record. Like the game has match history. Honor history should be carried out as well. Let every players know where they did wrong in chat or in games, then they can better understand the purpose of setting this report and honor system and approve & love this game. I believe that even some players behaved bad in history games, they still have a chance to become a good player. This is easy to accomplished because programmers only need to make a exact copy of 'Match History'. Instead the content is the reason why they are reported and explanation from the team. (If there is any insulting word in the suggestion, this report will lose efficacy and the insulting content should be replaced by ****, of course this is another hidden rule). The content of report history should be only visible to the reported player. On the contract, how their team honored them and the honor words should be shown to public, which will make players of LOL have more confidence and motivation to play this game. Because they harvest from their effort and everyone can see from the honor history.(For instance, putting honor labels like 'patient' ,'leader', 'DPS carrier', 'brain of the team').

3.Honor who made progress in behavior. If a player haven't been reported for one week or longer, then he should be awarded because he made his own effort to maintain the harmony of the LOL community. He should earn honor points even if he didn't get honored from team.(team will only honor the players who played excellent or they know, or they choose not to honor anyone) But, the players who behaved well in the games should also be awarded. Maybe he did well in games too and trying to be nice in chats, they should be ignored even they are not approved by the team. The award will make them have faith in what they did is right and they can continue to behave well.

Suggestion---Honor the long-term-not-being-reported-players(not need to have too much, but must have): (1). Daily Blue essence award (2).Common skin with color varied(rolling to get a random one, if it is certain award then it will not be expecting at all) (3).Reputation points. (from Pawn>>King, or some calling interesting). It can be shown in games as players' wish. This is different from honor system. The reputation level will only based on how many games and how long a player well behaved. So even high reputation players made mistakes in games. The team will try to believe he was not meant to be.

4,Punish the one who makes fake reports. It is obviously that some players in LOL games enjoy from maliciously reporting others. It is hard to distinguish who is really trolling in games. However, the report system can make these 'cheaters' to tell truth themselves. Based on the type of report, the system will first test the reporter's status. Like if someone report others have verbal abuse, then the system will first check if the reported behaved well in chats. If the reporter himself talk without respecting others and still report others 'Verbal Abuse'. Then, the report should be invalid, instead these reporters should get punished.

 If reporters send reports saying his team feed intentionally, then the system should compare KDA data (not only death data) of these 2 players. 
(1).If the reporter's KDA is far less than the reported player, then the reporter should be punished.
(2),If the reporter has similar KDA as the reported player, the system can define the game was a bad game, the report is based on players' mood not on sense. The report should be invalid. And the reporter should get a message to encourage them to face failures in games and practice more instead of blaming team.
(3). If the reporter player has better KDA than the reported one, then this should be considered as a valid report. However, we can't exclude the possibility that the reporter is trolling in games. 
  As we all know, LOL is a snowballed game, if one player is isolated in games because of 1 or 2 failure in lane, then the jungler or other lane players may choose to leave him alone, which made him ganked by enemy teams again and again.(ward is not useful, because for high IQ enemy team, they understand if one chain is broken in enemy team then they can win easily, so they will probably 5 groups in top or in bot, and your team may choose to ignore their group and report you after game).  Thus, if the reporter want to prove his report is valid, then he must have a 1v1 solo in 'ARAM' mode with the reported player.(If the reported player refuse the solo, then the report is valid; If the reporter gave up the solo, then the report is invalid). 
  The report will only be valid in the situation that reported player has worse KDA than the reporter and two players all accept the solo and the reporter won.(2 conditions, must fulfilled at the same time)

   In fact, there is only few player wants to feed intentionally in games.  So if a player really want to report someone because of feeding, he must prove the reported player's feeding was not because of occasionally reason like countered by the whole enemy team but because of his personal reason. If the player feeds only because of his troll, then he will have to take time solo with the reporter and have to take serious attitude in the solo game. Because once he lost, his report will take effect. And during the solo time, he cannot troll in other games. If there are continuous feedback of feeding of the player, then he can will have to solo with others again and again. Finally he will give up feeding intentionally (or get his account banned if he refuse or lost solo). 
    This is kinda tough way to help troll players to improve, but i think it is the best way for trollers. 
    Because they are already here ready for troll, they have no reason to play a bad game and then a serious solo.

   All reports should be used on reporter first, then the reported players. In this way, the reporters will behave nice even there are someone behaved bad in chat. So the game will be better because one person can't argue with himself.

Above all, these are my suggestions for LOL report and honor system. As there is already a punishment for bad players, then judgement for these bad players must be fair enough so that the punishment from authority are authentic. The report system is a way to make games better not for some trollers use it to break the balance of the games.

I hope you can consider my suggestions and make LOL better, thank you for watching this much long text.

10 Comments

Deep Terror Nami6/24/2018, 5:05:31 PM10 votes

The "Instant Report Feedback" you got was indicating that one of your reports against someone else resulted in a punishment. You do not receive notifications that someone else reported you, but it's understandable to be confused about what the popup is; make sure to read new popups entirely!

Also you don't have to worry about false reporting from multiple players; reports do not stack in any way. 9 players reporting you simply triggers a review of your behavior, the same as 1 report will do. The system does not judge you differently based on volume of reports in the match, only on the content of your chat logs and actions, then issues punishment (or not) based on the severity and frequency of offenses. If 4 trolls report you and you didn't do anything wrong you can't be punished, and your report against all of them will still result in each of them being reviewed (even if you did do something wrong and are punished, your reports are still effective against them).

Modi6/24/2018, 4:54:06 PM5 votes

/unfounded reports are thrown out/ignored anyway. There is no need to punish someone who just reports when they are unhappy, as those reports don't have any effect.

420 grams6/24/2018, 4:53:39 PM3 votes

The system already looks for fake reports. Reported doesn't mean automatically banned.

Sorin Alucard6/24/2018, 7:27:04 PM3 votes

y does your sex matter?

NA Omega6/24/2018, 4:38:14 PM2 votes

tldr

Kei1436/24/2018, 7:47:34 PM2 votes

False report filter is already in place. So don't worry about getting reported.

Arammus6/24/2018, 5:59:47 PM1 votes

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