Telling people to "uninstall" is never a good idea

GreyfellD·2/20/2019, 5:51:45 PM·4 votes·3,166 views

League is currently in a very sorry state. Telling somebody to "uninstall" is never a good idea since the community is slowly beginning to fall apart. The failure of Riot to sort out major imbalances and the amount of favouritism towards certain champions in the game has caused many of the "old guard" of players to leave the game and caused a general drop in numbers.

I think it has nothing to do with the age of the game but more to do with Riot's design choices... It may be the pro people that you all look up to but its the "average joes" that support the game and enrich the community.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you or League may not be around for much longer.

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Hotarµ2/20/2019, 6:07:43 PM5 votes

"A look at the numbers - is League of Legends a dying game?"

TwitchTracker status of League of Legends

"Is League of Legends dying in 2019? You'd be surprised..."

"Is League of Legends dying? Here's the facts."

4 separate articles (edit: /websites) that all provide evidence that suggests League is probably not on a steady decline. Personally I think the rate of growth is slowing, but the game is still going to be around for another few years, probably more.

All games fade eventually, but we have absolutely no way of knowing if the game is dying until Riot explicitly says so or releases the playercount.

AeroWaffle2/20/2019, 8:30:34 PM4 votes

I think it has nothing to do with the age of the game but more to do with Riot's design choices...

You are underestimating the effects of the age of a game.

A game that goes on longer is going to see ever increasing gaps between player skill and knowledge levels between the players.

A game that adds content over time is going to have much more content to overwhelm a new player as the game gets older and ever decreasing avenues to keep veterans interested. This might seem like a good thing for new players but it often results in the opposite since a new player knows that they are going to have a lot of progress to catch up to get to the same playing field as the veterans. This is more problematic to MMORPGs like WoW but it's still a problem in League.

You're also failing to consider the idea that gaming trends will just naturally shift. League reached peak popularity while the MOBA style was popular. Right now the new hotness is battle-royal style. It feels like almost every popular title has had or is trying to add a gamemode that is battle-royal. Despite being not being in the mainstream popular genre, League is going very well based on twitch viewer count alone.

League has enough of a player-base that it is not going to die anytime soon. Your complaints about champion favoritism and "imbalance issues" are the same complaints that have been here and always will always be here. People started complaining about supposed champion favoritism and imbalance while the game was still in beta and they will continue to pop up until the end of the game itself. No amount of balance will stop random people from complaining about imbalance.

Apriccot2/20/2019, 6:21:38 PM2 votes

Riot has become an echo chamber and political as hell. Ask anyone who actually works there. It's in a sorry state because they've fallen victim to the same old story that big corporations go through. A company that size is impossible to effectively sustain in the long term. They always crumble from within because people are imperfect and egotistical creatures.

Jennifer4202/20/2019, 9:43:16 PM1 votes

feels like it belongs into gameplay. and i dont think anyone will uninstall the game cause some random dickface tells them to do so.

well riots decisions... yeah ok

R107 Games2/20/2019, 6:55:45 PM1 votes

The affects of telling someone to uninstall varies from how the target perceives it, and the type of mentality the target has

ECK Thresh2/20/2019, 5:57:36 PM1 votes

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ChaosReyn2/20/2019, 8:21:26 PM1 votes

My take on it is very much a personal one, and I do not speak at all for the community as a whole. If by "old guard" player, you essentially mean "s1 grumpy 'veteran'" then this is at least one in disagreement with you though.

Idrc about being told to uninstall, first off. That's typical gamer stupidity like telling someone "go back to RuneScape." Do not recite the Deep Magic of gaming insults to the players there when it was written. xD

What I care about far more is the blatant abuse of the report system, and how quickly the average player goes from 0 to "stfu toxic noob, muted/reported" in chat lately. I'm finding it very difficult to communicate with people in game, as in about 7/10 games where I say something as simple as "focus on cs" to my ADC, they immediately start on this tangent of mute/report, then 15 minutes minimum of reciting every "mistake" I made instead of focusing on ANYTHING game related from their own perspective. Mind you, this is not hostile in any form, just an attempt to strategize (now's probably a good time to mention, Hi, I'm a support main, so this is actually relevant to my lane and not me sitting in top telling bot lane what to do), but it's immediately seen as me trying to tell them that they're doing something wrong, and they just go ballistic.

The sheer volume of reports is INSANE, and while part of it is simply that there are MILLIONS of more players compared to how this started, the more concerning part to me is what players see as reportable - which essentially translates since s6 to "damn near anything, as long as they don't like it." A short list of what is not a reportable offense that players get reported for include:

Off-Meta champions or summoner spells (on their own...if someone is obviously trolling, these are good indicators but not on their own reportable)
Muting people in chat ("That's refusing to communicate!" screams the report spammers after being the reason for being muted in the first place)
Off meta items (builds that aren't trolling, but aren't standard - such as building Wits End instead of RFC or Shiv on an AS-based marksman)
Attempting to communicate with stuck-up, hypersensitive teammates (if you call them that in game, it's technically reportable ~~even if its the damn truth~~...but if you're trying to direct a strategy, or you politely tell someone to stop flaming you when you're having a bad game, and they get bent out of shape like my scenario I led with when I started talking about this crap, that's asinine on their part)
Having a bad game (Just in general...not being overly reactive about it, not inting, just getting rekt by a counterpick, or someone with higher skill than you)

THAT is the biggest issue with this game. Not the trash talk, not the sometimes-garbage balance, not the obvious favoritism towards their LCS players, and shit not even the usual trolls anymore.

People who cannot take even simple communication from their team, let alone any element hinting at a loss, without going completely ape-shit.