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Riot should take a few lessons from blizzard in regards to player behavior

scazzman··3 votes·528 views

i recently switched over to heroes of the storm, and noticed something, i havent seen nearly as much toxicity, and the toxicity i have seen isnt nearly the extent ive seen in league and some of the reasons i think why

  • reporting a player for chat automatically blocks friend requests this prevents postgame harassment

  • chat is only punished in extreme cases, and im pretty sure they dont permaban for chat. but wait. wouldnt that mean more toxicity? well. you would think, but by only punishing severe chat toxicty such as slurs, it discourages ban baiting, or intentionally trying to rile people up in chat trying to get them banned. and it also decreases the paranoia factor which can cause reforming players to tilt, making them more likely to lash out in chat.

  • you have to go through 3 different screens just to get to the report button, one of the biggest complaints i have about league is it's "too easy" to report someone, and there is zero consequence for false reporting or counter reporting, low elo is literally nothing but a report fest, and neutral players are literally afraid of the chatbox

  • in order to play ranked you have to have mastery 5 with a champion,

this mitigates a lot of ranked toxicity preventing people from playing 1st time champions in ranked

Blizzard has been around MUCH longer then riot, and they know what the f*ck they're doing

15 Comments

èGirl Nami7 votes

Greetings

  1. logically nobody will accept a friend request from someone toxic after the game. (those who do just wants to start a flamewar)

  2. doesn't that also apply to this game as well...? (expect that they do punish players even for the lowest things they say in the chat)

  3. "too easy" to report yet most of the people still don't report others when they have the full right to do so and then complain about how bad this system is.

  4. bad idea

DarkLooN1 votes

Disagree, i think its a good idea. Too many times i have been punished simply for TALKING in the in game chat, and my linked chat logs (the 3 games) there may be one game that i said fuck or shit in... the others were fine, or me telling people what they should be doing in low elo games when they arent doing so, like adc/supp leashing when they just run to lane. Its SOOOOO easy to ban bait people in this game.... like, u dont even know. u could do it WITHOUT even typing, like stealing a junglers buff on purpose, easy ban bait... right now this system is a giant snowflake. any and everything is ban worthy in this game, even telling someone good job can SOMEHOW be twisted into being toxic.

èGirl Nami1 votes

Too many times i have been punished simply for TALKING in the in game chat

you can't get punished for simply talking in the chat.

and my linked chat logs (the 3 games) there may be one game that i said fuck or shit in...

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People don't get banned for curse words or vulgar language. Shit, shit, fuck.

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or me telling people what they should be doing in low elo games when they arent doing so, like adc/supp leashing when they just run to lane.

as long as it didn't sound toxic then there's np

ts SOOOOO easy to ban bait people in this game.... like, u dont even know. u could do it WITHOUT even typing, like stealing a junglers buff on purpose, easy ban bait... right now this system is a giant snowflake.

and it's easier to avoid it. /mute (as long as the jungler has smite it'll be difficult to steal buffs, also I didn't run into anyone like that for an entire year)

any and everything is ban worthy in this game, even telling someone good job can SOMEHOW be twisted into being toxic.

none-sense.

engaging into a fight in the chat isn't getting anyone anywhere. the chat exists in-game for the players to work together not to flame together. instead of typing words in front of the enemy team it's much better/safer to mute them or avoid reacting to their actions don't you think? if someone else is toxic in the chat then don't bother replying to them no matter what, mute them and report them after the game, problem solved.

it looks like that part of your statement seems to be: "I've been punished multiple times because of how easy it is to ban bait people in this game"

almost a bit contradictory?

I'm pretty sure you don't want to wind up losing your account over someone toxic or anything else.

BTW to clear a little misunderstanding here. it seems that you thought i was saying that this chat idea thing is bad.

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4- bad idea

when i said that... i was talking about this

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  • in order to play ranked you have to have mastery 5 with a champion
EvilDustMan6 votes

League games are longer and you can't leave.

MasterBrokenYi2 votes

At no point in your post did you make any sort of logical or legitimate argument. All your points are shit.

FurriesAreHot2 votes

After skimming to "it's too easy to report" I stopped skimming. Reporting is nothing but positive, false reports don't exist

scazzman1 votes

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false reports don't exist

are you by chance a climate change denier as well?

FurriesAreHot1 votes

No, climate change is a very real thing

General Esdeath 1 votes

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i recently switched over to heroes of the storm,

You already lost me

Xidphel1 votes

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meowwow71 votes

it can be the fact hots is a waste land compared to other game considering blizzard has a ton of free stuff just for playing it

Cavemantero1 votes

League is a much more popular, higher skilled, thus serious game than HotS. If HotS had this much popularity it'd be the same as here. Its the call of duty and counterstrike high strung, highly competitive kiddies that have been ruining this game lately as well as from the start. I quit during release because of the jackasses who were so toxic I was like..this isn't worth playing. I only came back because friends of mine were playing the game in season 3 and then with the implementation of ARAM shortly after i stayed and have avoided ranked at all costs due to the toxic nature built into the structure of it (yes....it is built in the elo system). With as much exposure as it gets, its naturally going to be taken way to seriously by non-pros trying to be pros. Same thing was with SC2 when it was popular albeit briefly.

Brascus1 votes

No one should be looking to Blizzard for game design. No one.

Who is Taliyah1 votes

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there is zero consequence for false reporting or counter reporting, low elo is literally nothing but a report fest, and neutral players are literally afraid of the chatbox

Nothing will happen to you if you didn't do anthing that breaks the rules so there is no point in being afraid of false reporting.

Scary Door1 votes

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Blizzard has been around MUCH longer then riot

True.

and they know what the f*ck they're doing

False.

Sorry, but comparing HotS to League is like comparing the CFL (Canadian Football League) to the NFL (National Football League), one game has a million players or so and it's a facsimile to League---albeit not a very good one, but why play something that's like League when I can just play League?

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