Why does no one ever want to give constructive criticism?

MelodyMoon·1/25/2017, 10:38:10 AM·4 votes·1,351 views

Honestly all I ever want is constructive criticism when I'm playing badly. I have only been playing for a month or 2 and 90% of the games that I play badly in I immediately get flamed when all I wanted was for someone more experienced on my team to tell me what I'm doing wrong. It's honestly the one thing that makes me want to stop playing all together. There is a lot of stuff in this game that I still don't understand quite well and having someone tell me how to improve instead of flaming me would be nice.

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AthenasVendetta1/25/2017, 10:43:40 AM4 votes

Sometimes a blunt or direct statement is seen as toxic because it is criticism...

You have made the first step. You have admitted you can/need to improve your play. The thing to do is identify what you need to improve on.

Elite4Runner1/25/2017, 10:50:40 AM2 votes

Unfortunately, people sort of expect that someone is either good at the game or they aren't. And if you aren't good at the game at the time you are only preventing them from winning.

You are absolutely correct about this game having a monstrous amount of complexity. It honestly takes years to get a strong understanding of a majority of the skills needed to be consistently good at the game. Even then, it is practically impossible to truly master the game, simply because of how often it changes.

I do not say this with the intention of frightening you. I actually think that this is a huge part of what makes this game so interesting.

There are actually quite a few people out there that will offer you advice and will genuinely help you.

All you have to do is ask and be patient.

S0kaX1/25/2017, 11:18:22 AM2 votes

Because most of the times when I tell a teammate something they say "stfu noob" and now I treat every player that plays bad the same.

SarahElle1/25/2017, 11:29:55 AM2 votes

When I first started playing on SR, it was a big ol mess. I had a lot to work on, and most games didn't go very well. Many people were quite toxic, but there were some who actually very helpful.

Surprisingly, the most helpful criticism came from the enemy team! They pointed out various things to look for , where they would most likely be and how to ward properly, what to buy in what situations, and how to defend against their champs.

They all got honors of course (they still won, but it was a delightful game. Their helpful and upbeat nature gave all our team a different feeling towards the match). That one match made me stick with it. I am still not very good (silver, best I can do lol!) but I am willing to keep going and try to improve. Practice makes perfect, eh!

I have had people on my teams that do this as well, but it is fairly rare. I wish the mentality was geared more towards helpful then abusive.

Kartagia1/25/2017, 12:12:31 PM2 votes

The sad fact is 99% of players sees constructive criticism as flaming and so does Riot. RIot has stated you should only give positive feedback, as some people would not like constructive criticism.

swordofsun1/27/2017, 5:44:19 PM2 votes

I would say the middle of a game is not the place for constructive criticism unless you're douing with someone for that purpose. There are a couple of reasons that essentially boil down to: Not everybody wants it and most people don't know how to give it. Also unless you're on voice comms there just isn't time in the middle of the game to type out proper crit (unless you're dead or standing still in lane getting killed).

What you want is essentially, "Stop engaging Darius so close, he gets extra damage from the handle of his axe."
What an astonishingly large number of people think is proper criticism: "Stop feeding!"
Person playing for fun after a stressful day: /mute all or "Fuck off"

There are a number of places to go to find someone to help you with what you're looking for. There's the summonerschool subreddit. That's a decent place to start.

Elite4Runner1/25/2017, 12:41:58 PM2 votes

Also, a lot of what criticism that is given is not taken as valid, ... and in all fairness, a decent amount of it isn't.

Maximum Morde1/25/2017, 12:38:43 PM1 votes

Because it gets them banned by rito.

IM A ID A IR A1/25/2017, 11:46:03 AM1 votes

Because people don't like to get criticism, no matter if constructive or not.

Best example: Enemy team = Soraka, Maokai, Swain, Volibear, life-steal ADC My team = Graves, GP, ADC I can beg them 1000 times while nearly crying to get item 3123 -> item 3033 but lategame i see 3 guys with item 3036 This happened several times to me. But it's fine for them as long as they can write after the game "f#ck Soraka op heals".

Some players rather lose on purpose before they would listen to an advice, so why even try? Instead they tell you all mistakes you did during the game while insulting you.

ok go next1/25/2017, 2:01:51 PM1 votes

There's one simple answer. People don't give it, because they can't take it. People in low elo are too busy watching faker montages and attempting to 1v3 or make flash plays that are completely horrible and i can already predict they'll accomplish nothing.

LordGeovanni1/25/2017, 9:30:52 PM1 votes

People dont know the game they know the champion they are playing. I made it a point to play every champion when learning them game through free week rotation and even before that i may have too a month but i read the skills and less importantly in this situation the lore of every champion in the game. and when you do give constructive criticism people lump it in as toxic. might as well just be toxic you get called toxic either way and its less work.

Brain Errör 4041/25/2017, 9:40:03 PM1 votes

I'm honestly guilty of just snapping at people when they perform poorly. I have my games too so I try my best to remember that I also do badly. However, some times it just IRKS me when someone does something so obliviously bad and then spam a missing ping on a teammate or something. I just snap at that point.

If you're new to the game, I'd honestly need you to let me know before I treat you any differently. There aren't really much new players I run into, so if I do, then it's legit almost impossible for me to tell. So if I badmouthed and you say, "Well, I'm new. Instead of flaming me, why not give me advice?", I'll have to swallow my pride, apologize and then I can help you out from there.

I've actually given a lot of people on the enemy team advice. They tend to take it to heart, especially when you've already won lane vs them. I like helping people improve and helping them out along the way. I also like when people give me advice. I'm not the best, so you give me advice, I'll take it to mind. Likewise, if someone is outperforming you, it'd be wise to take their advice.

And, as usual, I can spectate and help out people for free if they want a bit of advice. :) Most of it is just hand me down information that I got from higher elo people helping me out, but I don't mind returning the favor.

KiritoErenMikasa1/25/2017, 10:57:23 PM1 votes

the whole concept of feeding is a prime example. the word itself should be a bannable offense, there is a difference between not being very good at the game or not caring and screwing around.

has anyone not played league at all? this game is very inconsistent, you lose games and win games, sometimes more so than the other. this game isnt strictly a team game like others, if you carry or snowball you can easily just win games alone, so instead of flaming the other, just do better and win yourself and help others that are not as well gifted at playing a game on the internet.

Weathered1/25/2017, 12:31:07 PM1 votes

Because 90% of people take constructive criticism the wrong way if you don't explicitly phrase it as so.