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Unpopular opinion: Toxicity in chat shouldn't be bannable.

Sebastit7d·5/3/2019, 7:32:19 PM·7 votes·2,370 views

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT A RANT OR ANYTHING ABOUT ME HAVING GOTTEN PUNISHED OR ANYTHING, JUST HEAR ME OUT!

Everytime I browse through the boards there are always people whining about getting banned and everything, and even though I am against toxicity in chat, I don't think that it should be something that should stop you from playing the game.

So what about it? Well, what if instead of the game bans we had actual "Chat bans" in which the player that constantly breaks the rules when it comes to toxic chat gets their rights to chat completely taken away from them and they can no longer chat in game? Something similar to the ban system we have right now but instead of not being able to play for 15 days then permanently we get 15 games with no chat features enabled at all and then permanently unable to chat? Both of these with a shorter ping limits so 3 at a time before the cooldown maybe?

In my honest opinion I don't think that trash talking or saying mean things to other players should be put on the same pedestal as someone who intentionally feeds the enemy, that trolls you or does things that directly impact the flow of the game? Now, you can argue and say that a toxic player can impact the outcome by tilting their allies and stuff, and that's true to some extent, but they won't ever know if you mute them, and honestly not giving them the attention they crave by limiting their access to communicating can educate the community into playing the game instead of just stopping to flame your teammates.

Just some food for thought.

24 Comments

Arcade Lulu5/3/2019, 7:35:29 PM10 votes

Before the ban system we have now, there was actually permanent chatban if i remember correctly But you know what most people did after getting perma chat banned They started trolling games in other ways that are harder to detect

TLDR: The ban system will probably stay as it is right now

GatekeeperTDS5/3/2019, 8:15:36 PM6 votes

Even if you haven't been punished, it's still a rant.

Just some food for thought.

This idea has been thrown around for so long, the food smells like a tuna sandwich left in the sun since season 3, if you smell what the Rock is cooking. If someone is hell-bent on being toxic, they're going to do it in other ways if chat isn't available. It's what we had to deal with before the current IFS, when people did get infinitely-scaling chat restrictions. They resorted to ruining games in other ways.

The toxic need to be eliminated. It's the base definition of toxic - poisonous, infectious, harmful. Removing chat does not instantly make someone able to control themselves in game. Riot doesn't want these players around. Other players don't want these players around. Why do you want to keep them in our games?

PandaskinBen5/3/2019, 7:58:48 PM6 votes

The issue is as we have heard with that from Riot in the past. When people with basically 1000+ chat restrictions couldn't be toxic with words, they switched to gameplay toxicity.

"Then ban them once they start trolling."

Great idea! Except we also know that punishment for gameplay travels at a snails pace.

rujitra5/3/2019, 9:13:35 PM5 votes

If a player on a professional sports team is punished for unsportsmanlike conduct for vulgar/demeaning language, are they eventually just told "you're not allowed to talk during games" and duct tape put over their mouth? No. Communication is necessary.

R107 Games5/3/2019, 7:45:14 PM3 votes

That's not really an "unpopular opinion, it's shared by a lot of people. But yeah, chat should not be bannable to an extent(the player is spamming or using zero tolerance words), since there is a mute button

rKRex5/3/2019, 8:12:13 PM2 votes

especially trash talk to the enemy team. It's absolutely fucking asinine that the enemy can get you banned for bantering. The stick up riot's ass is getting deeper and deeper as time goes on.

Telephone Booth5/3/2019, 10:33:36 PM2 votes

Toxicity isnt on the same level as inting or trolling. The MINIMUM punishment for inting is a 14 day ban, compared to a 10 game chat restrict for chat. It takes a lot of chat to get banned for it. Takes one instance of inting to get banned. I only disagree that they put more weight on certain words. Treat all toxicity the same. Severity is subjective.

DalekZec5/4/2019, 10:08:18 PM1 votes

Unpopular opinion: serial killers shouldn't be arrested and put to jail.

Did you actually think twice before posting this?!?

Zombie Gerbil5/3/2019, 7:44:18 PM1 votes

Well, Riot doesn't bend to your standards. We bend to theirs and the majority of us like the fact people are banned. We already had perma chat ban in the past. It didn't work.

So no. Nothing will change and will remain the same.