There should be rules against holding people hostage in a game

Glîtchy·12/28/2018, 5:35:33 AM·16 votes·7,979 views

I got stuck with 2 COMPLETE fuckboy players who fed the HELL outta their lanes then refused to surrender when they went and fed the other lanes and proceeded to blame me for no back up (I was jungle) and when my team tried to surrender they said "just have fun, never surrender" and SPAMMED THE LIVING FUCK OUTTA THAT MESSAGE.

honestly this is why I hate parties in general, they ruin things because they wanna be dickheads and troll.

74 Comments

rujitra12/28/2018, 5:40:18 AM12 votes

The game is not lost until your nexus explodes. The surrender vote is not for "lost games", it is for a game in which a supermajority of the players in the game are no longer having fun and no longer want to play the game.

You are not entitled to leave a game early simply because you think it's "lost". You are obligated to try to win every game until a nexus explodes - be it by destruction or surrender vote passing.

MagicFlyingLlama12/28/2018, 5:51:19 AM9 votes

Meanwhile, one of them is probably making a post about that asshole troll who gave up at 15 and proceeded to run in circles at fountain not having fun.

Espy Psyche12/28/2018, 12:59:34 PM6 votes

You're actually obligated by TOS to try your best to win every game and stay till the bitter end, regardless of what your teammates are doing. The report button at the end of the game exists -- report teammates who intentionally feed.

Learn the difference between "intentionally feeding", "being mechanically bad at the game", "playing a champion you aren't familiar with", "playing an off meta pick", "being in a bad matchup", "being camped", "making bad strategic decisions" and "i'm already 0/10 so this wave i'm overextending for is worth more gold than me". In most cases, unless they're actually running it down, building AP Garen, or following the jungler around the jungle stealing their camps when they're standing there fighting them, they aren't inting.

A 17/1/10 Akali who rages at you for taking her red buff and runs it down mid once before going back to killing everyone to pay you back for taking the red buff is intentionally feeding. A 0/10/0 Caitlyn who has been overextending for farm since 0/5 is not intentionally feeding.

Overextending for farm isn't intentional feeding. Taking a 1% play isn't intentional feeding. Missing a flash over a wall isn't intentional feeding. Missing skillshots isn't intentional feeding. Using abilities in the wrong order isn't intentional feeding. Making a bad strategic decision isn't intentional feeding. Building suboptimally isn't intentional feeding.

In fact, attempting to surrender a game is by definition intentionally trying to lose and has a higher chance of losing your team the game than any action you can take on Summoner's Rift. 100% of all surrendered games have ended in a loss for the surrendering team, without a single exception in the entire history of League of Legends. This includes all levels of play from the depths of level 1 games to the World Finals, in every single region, every single patch, regardless of what champions are on the map or who's playing them, what the score is, or any other factor. Even if you took the full roster of Invictus or Fnatic or Team Liquid and pitted them against brand new level 1 players who've never seen a MOBA before, if the pros do /surrender, they will lose 100% of the time. It doesn't matter that they're the best players in the world or that they're 30k gold up or that their opponents don't know what the controls do, if they type /surrender they will lose.

No. If you're "being held hostage", you play your best and report people who are actually inting in the postgame lobby.

Lavitztyr12/28/2018, 9:01:44 AM3 votes

Bottom line; play the game with the intent to win/have fun then report as needed when the game is over. If it is an egregious behavior, then you can get in touch with riot support to give them a heads up in addition to reporting them.

Nyarlathοtep12/28/2018, 5:08:27 PM3 votes

Riot wont ever do something about this. Just do what every other logical human being would do. Ignore your team and do whatever you find funny at the time. As long as its not explicit, you will be okay. You shouldnt play something that you dont have fun period.

And as a heads up for those that will downvote me and maybe reply, yes i am part of the problem. You know who else is part of the problem? Those with the never surrender mentality. On average people hate games that are well, hopeless. And dont get me started on games that you have to play perfectly.

ManBearPyg12/28/2018, 6:38:45 AM2 votes

Just leave if it isn't ranked. I know what the specialist above said, but last I checked you are entitled to spend your time how you see fit. If the game is truly that toxic, just close it out. Try to learn from it and stay chill in the future, muting helps :)

Akheteru12/30/2018, 7:43:32 AM2 votes

I found the game OP is talking about in his op.gg. It wasn't hard.

I'd say two were inting and one was just really bad at the game. Of the two inters, one is shown by op.gg to have been active today, the other (Kaisa) hasn't played since the game in question. I'd like to believe that's because rito acted on the post-match lobby report, but since the other troll's account is still active, I'm more inclined to doubt that.

I Spread Cancer12/31/2018, 8:40:00 AM2 votes

Use surrender vote and respect other people vote.