What is the trigger for the instant feedback function to actually punish?

it be lìke that··1 votes·641 views

Chat restricted and im fine with it. I just woke up, he got to me. Its fine, I use pings 99% of the time anyways.

But how can I go from honor capsule this morning and fragments the last 3 days for "keeping it sportsmanlike" and having the little flower thing on portrait, to 10 game restriction, without getting any notice the other guy had action taken against him?

Flaming since minute 2 in normals. He is better than us all, yada yada yada.

The guy was the epitome of everything that is wrong with the league community, and no tribunal punish? Why was he able to get away with it?

Even disclaimed **I do not play adc much im learning.

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ModThe Djinn2 votes

You don't always get a message when someone is punished. You only get it if your report is the last one before the punishment triggers.

That said, what makes the system decide whether or not to apply a punishment is something it's hard for us to directly know. We do know that it's dependent upon the severity of the behavior, combined with the frequency of the behavior. It's possible that your log was considered problematic enough for an immediate chat restriction, but it's also possible that you've received several reports for minor behavior recently and it pushed you over a line.

it be lìke that1 votes

That I get, but it seems like I had so much idk, "good credit" stacked in my favor right? I got the capsule this morning upon logging in.

I am wondering if there is some sort of trigger words I perhaps used? Like calling him "C a ncer"

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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That I get, but it seems like I had so much idk, "good credit" stacked in my favor right? I got the capsule this morning upon logging in.

The honor system and the report system are independent. The only connection is that getting punished loses you honor. Someone at honor 5 who does something that merits a chat restriction will get one exactly as quickly as someone at honor 2.

In short, there isn't "good credit." There is just your history, and a deescalation system. I've never been punished, and have been playing since pre-season 1, but my account is just as vulnerable as any other never-reported player if I suddenly started tilting severely. What good behavior DOES do is help keep strikes from building up, as good behavior deescalates your punishment level over time. So if I got 90% of the way to a punishment and then had a few months of great behavior, my account would likely return to a perfectly fine state and I'd be back on track.

it be lìke that1 votes

got it! Thank you.

I have been chat restrictioned before but not for a very long time.

But hey, since it happened, ive done really well in my adc games even just got a penta kill then a quadra in the same game.

Kaptain Kuddles2 votes

Great info Djinn, I've been perusing the boards and have noticed almost all of your posts are insightful if not entertaining! I can attest to the deescalation period as I've had a couple of years that have seen chat restrictions, all of which have been 10 games followed by a long period of no penalties.

As for Bish, glad to see a good attitude! The restriction can be rough but sometimes it really does help you focus on yourself and how you can change. Keep it saucy, my friend.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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Great info Djinn, I've been perusing the boards and have noticed almost all of your posts are insightful if not entertaining! I can attest to the deescalation period as I've had a couple of years that have seen chat restrictions, all of which have been 10 games followed by a long period of no penalties.

Thanks! I try to be helpful whenever possible, and being entertaining is an added bonus! [sg-lux]

Anastaecia1 votes

Best I can tell, the system has some kind of points. You get some whenever you are rightfully reported. When the points reach certain plateaus, you get the restrictions and suspensions.

it be lìke that1 votes

right, but it was my first game of the day and i woke up to receiving an honor capsule. So thats really why im confused.

Anastaecia1 votes

If you are below one of these plateaus (but have a couple minor infractions), you haven't received punishment, so no reason not to get a capsule.

it be lìke that1 votes

hmm interesting. I figured it always swung one way, like <<<<<<< this side gets you a capsule --------------------- nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment.

Anastaecia1 votes

Like The Djinn says, not many people know exactly how the system works....I just assume that until you get an actual punishment, no reason to not get capsules and keys (and diff levels of punishment (chat vs suspension) have diff interactions with the rewards systems) LIke the end of season rewards...you can still get as long as you haven't been punished since Aug 22, even if you had been bad earlier in the year.

Silent Gravity1 votes

Honor capsules and key fragments drop at the specified rate for each honor level.

Honor level is not reduced at all until a punishment is issued.

Those drops are not evidence of anything except your being at an honor level where they drop.

it be lìke that1 votes

gotcha, thank you! I wouldn't even be posting this if I got an instant feedback report.

I deserve the restriction for not just muting him sooner.

Maximum Morde1 votes

Best I can tell at this point the learning algorithm has been taught to just punish anyone who has typed in chat if they get enough reports

TrulyBland1 votes

Care to share an example of such a scenario actually occurring?

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