@Riot Is This Breaking the Summoner's Code?

Masterkerfuffle·5/5/2016, 5:20:24 AM·2 votes·3,903 views

Inspired by Disco Heat, I've been playing roaming, counter-jungling, hilariously cancerous, Shaco and having a blast.

Since the whole idea is based around starving the enemy jungler, the position of roamer replaces the traditional bot lane support, effectively having two junglers. Since the whole situation is reliant on having a jungler, if you don't then the enemy can just take your camps when you take their's, making the whole thing pointless. Because of this I've been queuing up for normals as "support" only to inform my team, to varied amounts of rage, that I won't be going bottom lane. I've been doing well and am thinking of taking this into ranked.

I know breaking the meta isn't against The Summoner's Code, but is deviating from the standard role structure against the rules?

Thanks.

26 Comments

ModWuks5/5/2016, 5:50:42 AM7 votes

If everyone on your team is okay with the choices that you make, like not going bot lane, then it's completely acceptable. You must make sure that each player on your team is okay with it before going off-role; otherwise it could be seen as refusing to communicate and/or trolling, and I'd hate to see you punished for doing something you've found successful!

Yosuke Apperu5/5/2016, 5:22:47 AM2 votes

It is not against the rules fine sir! This is how new metas are created.. but people may not be too happy about it at first..

disregardable5/5/2016, 5:23:31 AM2 votes

It's against the rules if you use it in Draft pick (that includes ranked). When you use draft pick, you're saying you'll go that specific role. So if you queue up support and don't play support, you're breaking the rules.

You can troll blind pick all you want though, so I'd suggest using your "tactic" there.

MeilinII5/5/2016, 5:22:21 AM2 votes

It's not against the rules, but don't take it in ranked unless you're playing with at least 3 friends, one of whom is the ADC. The meta exists for a reason and fucking with it too hard will make people upset because you're fucking their ability to win.

Lysdexic15/5/2016, 7:02:18 AM2 votes

Honestly, if you queue up as "fill" and end up in the support, you didn't technically pick support. Loophole. If you wanted to be polite, do it in a group of friends but no one should be able to dictate how another person plays a match. As long as you aren't being toxic to your teammates in game this is not a reportable offense.

franticFurball5/5/2016, 12:14:31 PM2 votes

You wanna know something fun?

In Overwatch, no one has a say in what hero I pick for a match.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Magneto815/5/2016, 4:04:54 PM2 votes

This is super fun. I've been doing it for a couple months now with premades. Starve the enemy jungler and/or gank more and make better use of your jungle. We take way more Rift Heralds this way too. It's too bad he doesn't respawn anymore though. When the opposing jungler is level 4 to your two level 6 junglers, you know you've done well :).

I usually play the ADC who is by himself. Sometimes I play Nasus and make sure we have an "AD" jungler :) The enemy bot lane wastes so much time and I just farm under turret like a good safe Nasus. Then when I'm such a high level compared to them I can 1v2 them.

Ada Wong5/5/2016, 6:54:17 AM1 votes

Or you can just type /mute all when players argue, there are valid reasons to roam out of a lane but there really isn't a reason not to start in that lane as shaco support for example at level 3, or level 6 if your mate needs help, or you see an early advantage go for it.

If players argue then what I do is type /Mute All had to do this twice today, I disable my sound I am completely deafened only players I can see is (Myself) and (My Map) that is all I can't see any text or hear any sound from anyone its more peaceful this way and if someone is upset over something let them argue among themselves I don't want to hear it....

So if someone is saying (Be Careful) or do something I can't hear it the only option is to group, and this is the reason why creating an argument in chat isn't valid and can throw games easily.

Players are not banned by the Tribunal for not playing the meta; they are banned for consistently creating negative experiences for others.

Also what is defined as a negative experience, and depends how each person looks at it???

Think about it obviously if I went Lux from bot lane the other day to mid lane when our jungler was getting screwed over there was a damn good reason to try to help him, but peeps were like Why are you there, and I honestly don't got time to explain to little children why and players will just create a negative experience and argue everything so /mute all and not hear it is the best option.

COBRA C0MM4NDER5/5/2016, 6:56:43 AM1 votes

when something works and works well for you, run with it for a while.

Maximum Morde5/5/2016, 12:18:58 PM1 votes

No, it isn't against the rules. You can play however you want so long as you aren't intentionally trying to lose. Especially since you are letting your team know ahead of time. If someone gets mad about it they can dodge or you can mute them. I'd suggest you be very careful in chat because I guarantee you will get reported. Just make sure they are all false reports and you'll be fine.

xxxDogmanxxx5/5/2016, 12:57:02 PM1 votes

So by trying to deny the enemy jungler in his own jungle, you:

a.) put yourself in danger of being collapsed upon by their team. b.) leave your ADC in a 2v1 in bot lane, where he will constantly be denied farm. c.) deprive your jungler of resources, since three people will now be farming the jungle instead of two. d.) deprive yourself of resources, since the jungle has limited resources anyway even compared to a duo lane.

Doesn't seem worth it.

AsphodelNext5/5/2016, 5:33:46 AM1 votes

You can only be reported if you're intentionally trying to lose, whether by running down mid lane into the enemy fountain or holding a dance party while they kill you.

If you have a reasonable chance of success playing Shaco anti-jungle, which you could depending on how low your MMR is, then you can do it and you're fine.

But, if you're a good enough player that playing off-meta against people of your skill level will lose your team the game and you can recognize that, then you are intentionally losing and that's not allowed.

IWrath5/5/2016, 5:27:33 AM1 votes

I actually saw this happen today. Guy went Talon support and just pretty much played jg alongside Tryndamere.

His team was not happy and he ended up with almost a full lobby of reports.

ModPrandine5/5/2016, 5:57:54 AM1 votes

You cannot be banned for breaking the meta so long as you're actively trying to win. If you're breaking the meta with the sole intention to troll and be a jerk then yes you can be punished and banned for doing that. Always make sure to check with your teammates before you do something unusual such as Malzahar Support for example there. If they're alright and fine with it then go ahead and do it. Otherwise, just play it safe and smart and just don't do it that game.

From the Tribunal FAQ:

Can I be banned for not playing the meta? Players are not banned by the Tribunal for not playing the meta; they are banned for consistently creating negative experiences for others.

We have data suggesting that reviewers of Tribunal cases are very thoughtful and accurate in their verdicts, so if you were reported for not playing the meta but were being a positive player, you can expect to be judged fairly.

In general, players should feel empowered to play what they want and to try new strategies; however, this does not give you a license to be disrespectful or rude to your fellow gamers.