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Let's be honest, Riot doesn't care about toxic players

GrenadesAndHamm·1/28/2020, 7:15:08 PM·5 votes·2,003 views

I don't know the formula for getting chat banned. I don't know what words or phrases will increase your likelihood. I don't swear or call other people names ever. I get called names every game and accused of inting or trolling and everything else, especially when I'm doing well for some reason.

But if Riot actually cared about people being toxic or negative or degrading or whatever, they would ban them. Not just ban the account but ban their IP and do everything they can to prevent them from being in the game. Other games and sites ban by IP, email, etc, and it's effective.

So what does that mean? Banning by user and not IP makes them money. People lose everything and start new accounts and spend money.

I started playing last year and spent money pretty frequently. Never received a chat ban.

I stopped spending money since I came back this year. No swearing. No calling people names. When people call me names like trash or wherever, I might post their KDA but j don't attack them. Chat bans.

It all comes down to banning only user names being profitable for Riot.

Toxicity doesn't matter one bit to them.

7 Comments

ModThe Djinn1/28/2020, 9:06:43 PM3 votes

Other games and sites ban by IP, email, etc, and it's effective.

It's actually fairly ineffective. Getting a new IP or new email is easy, and what it really does is potentially screw over players in shared households, colleges, or cybercafes -- a large portion of League's playerbase, basically.

You could possibly ban based on credit cards, but then you'd have to require them, and League is 13+, doesn't require you to have a card hooked up, and, even then, you can get new or temporary credit cards.

There's really just not a good solution to permanently stop players from playing, so Riot does what they can.

Ginger9761/28/2020, 7:26:46 PM2 votes

You entire premise underscores how little you understand how the underlying systems work. IP ban? Good bye all college dorms or other aggregated internet connections.

Nithke1/28/2020, 7:32:45 PM2 votes

Are you implying that riot doesn't ban accounts that spends a lot of money ? Because that is extremely false.

To me it's just that the game is so toxic that Riot just can't ban them all, if some guy is really a toxic piece of shit he gets reported 9 times by the team and you get the instant feedback report soon after.

People's complaint are more about the fact that riot only bans based on words said and not ingame behaviour => Running it down mid, going afk, other forms of intings or griefing etc...

Jng Account1/28/2020, 7:36:26 PM1 votes

Not just ban the account but ban their IP and do everything they can to prevent them from being in the game. Other games and sites ban by IP, email, etc, and it's effective.

I can get new ip, email, phone number in term of minutes.

I myself have, one could say, little too much experience with behaviour punishments, there is no way you ever got punished for posting kdas of your team mates, I suspect you either asked for surr, reps, called them trolls, hardstucks or just simply calling someone out/being negative.

It takes practice to flame without being punished by automated system, there are few ways, but it is against rules to talk about them, let's just say that averege toxic player isn't using them and is likely getting punished. It also takes quite a bit of time and repeated patterns to get chat rest(eg. it normally took me 5-7 games to get chat rest after calling someone troll every 5 mins).

CapnMorganFr3man1/28/2020, 7:44:49 PM1 votes

You're new so I'll explain: Riot care less about verbally toxic players than you expect them to because they SHOULDN'T care about verbally toxic players. There's this neat little feature they added called the 'mute button,' and when someone says a mean word to you you can just press that button and POOF no more mean words. After your learn that button exists, you no longer expect big daddy Riot to be up there pushing it for you, so you just stop caring really.

As for actual game toxicity like intentionally feeding and disconnecting, I agree it's hard for the system to pick up on it sometimes but boy oh boy is it satisfying when it does.

GrenadesAndHamm1/28/2020, 10:09:33 PM1 votes

First, just because you can get around something, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.

Second, there are other ways to ban people that are effective. Requiring a credit card would, of course, work with correct name information. Prohibiting prepaid credit cards would be easy and viable.