Does anyone else have this sort of problem? To be explain its the feeling that you shouldn't even open your mouth to anyone because you feel as if they would take any sort of tip or advice as an insult and just turn into a full on ass hole. And its not something alone the lines of screaming but something like "hey this item would help you a bit more against them" sorta thing.
if they want advice they will ask for it.
Honestly a lot of it comes one of two things:
This is all that so-called "advice" like "Stop feeding" or "You should've done X instead of Y". Considering they're dead for the next 30 seconds, there's a good chance they already realized what they've done wrong; it's just too late to change it and you're only bringing it back up to the front of their mind. There are times when the latter is valid, timely advice but those times they usually ask for it or make some kind of statement hinting that they didn't know like "wtf was that"
If I've been sitting under turret getting dove from between outer and inner turret, the last thing I want to hear from my team is "You should play safer" or "Hug the turret". That's what I've been doing for the past 5-10 minutes, and just because they've found a way to kill me regardless doesn't mean that I'm not already trying to play safe. There have been times where someone will criticize my farming in a losing lane. Well yeah, I'm being zoned heavily. Do you want me to die trying to farm or sit under turret and not die? Make up your mind. Another instance is telling someone with no gold to buy items (from losing lane) to buy X item. It's like telling poor person that's late from riding the bus that they should buy a car. No shit, I know I should buy a car but I don't have the money. No shit, I know to build defensively but I don't have the gold to buy any of the items so for now I'm just to have to sit on this Tiamat that I was already building before I started losing.
For reference: Don't Ask
How did you die/how are you losing to X champ? They played it better than me. It happens.
Start warding. Can be valid is person just flat out doesn't ward, but in this context we're talking about instances where someone is unable to either because they have been warding but their trinket is on cd or they were ganked from a different area (no lane can singehandedly ward every route to their lane with the new changes to wards), or they have been pushed under their turret to the point where warding is a death calling.
Stop feeding. Quite literally the most toxic thing you can tell someone who is tilted/losing (that won't get you banned). No one that is legitimately trying feeds on purpose, which is the what people will generally infer from these two words.
Why did you pick X champ? They picked them because they wanted to play it or because they thought it was the best choice at the time.
Now don't get me wrong, there are lots of times where you give advice that is valid, reasonable, helpful, not in a poor tone, the whole nine yards. If the people takes this as a provocation, then they probably just have a toxic mentality. No helping it. But often times it's one of the above, and I hate that people never seem to want to address the fact that thoughtless advice does not help, it only adds stress to the stressed player.
It's generally better to not say anything to them. If they want to improve they'll eventually find out.
In all of my time playing LoL I just recently had my first teammate that appreciated a hint i dropped when I said "damn, APs get countered by Hexdrinker way too hard". He instantly bought it and he didn't regret it.
I feel like this issue will exist forever. It's simply too hard to tell what a person's tone is just from text.
Personally, there is nothing that annoys me more than someone else trying tell me how to play my champ. It just comes off as really condescending, no matter how they phrase it, and I'd rather they be paying attention to their own playing.
If it's a champ I have used a lot, then I don't need you to tell me which sum spells or items I need, thanks. I may not be building meta, because I've played that champ long enough to find an item combo that works for ME. Bugging me to buy an item that works for you is just going to distract and annoy me.
If it's a champ I'm new to, I will tell you that and ask for the advice. Which I do quite often, when trying out a new champ or an old champ in a new position. Solicited advice is wonderful and I always make sure to honor those people who give it after the game.
Bottom line, if people ask for help then you should definitely give it to them. If they don't, then don't.
Honestly, I feel the same way and tbh it just makes me feel sad anymore. Any advice ever is met with hostility, I feel like the community was RIP after season 2; we are all just the walking dead now. [zombie-nunu-tears]
This isn't unique to League. Happens in all games.
Here is how my last few games as Veigar went. Leblanc starts murdering me. 'Veigar, stay under the tower! play defensive!' Leblanc dives me under the tower. 'Veigar why didn't you play defensively, you shit!'
It depends on the person you're giving advice to and how you're giving the advice. The reason these are both important is if you're advice is in the form of something like "why did you let them kill you you idiot?" then of course they're not gonna listen to you. On the flipside though even if you're advice is along the lines of "hey you should probably flash earlier if you feel like you're getting ganked", if they're not receptive of the advice then just drop it and move on instead of nagging them about it for the entire game.
It happens it's just some people are too hard headed to listen. You always get that one top laner who feeds, never changes his build and blames everyone in the end. The best thing to do when they get all toxic is just mute them. They'll be stuck in that same elo hell for years. While you on the other hand will meet nicer players who actually wants to learn to be better at this game.
