Etiquette of smurfing

DeathBurst··98 votes·7,617 views

Even if smurfing could technically be punishable, Riot themselves acknowledged there was legitimate reasons to smurf and decided to tolerate the practice. On the other hand, there are clearly some abuse cases. So in order to promote positivity and sportsmanship, here are the rules I try to adhere to myself when I'm playing much below my real MMR. I'd be interested in other people opinions, and I think giving them more visibility is a good thing overall.

  • First and foremost, don't be an ass. If you normally play at a much higher level, have hundreds or thousands of game of experience, of course you'll stomp your opponents. Don't brag, it's not extraordinary, it's just logical.
  • Be open about it. Honestly tell your real level, so that your opponent doesn't feel too bad. And explain why you are doing it (to play with a friend, to train a new champ, etc.), so that they don't get angry.
  • If you can, try to teach a little, both to your own team and to the opponent. For instance, make a dragon call, and explain why now is a good time, or ping back when someone else makes a bad call, but also explain why it's too dangerous right now. And if an opponent is making an obvious mistake and you kill them for it, tell them what was the mistake. And as per the first point, don't be condescending or bragging while doing it. Builds are also an easy thing to constructively comment upon.
  • Try to show some mercy. Don't actively try to make someone life miserable or don't blow everything you have just to get that 15th kill just for the glory of it, if it's obviously not worth it. Obvious example that comes to mind is: if you play Rengar, don't always use your ult on cooldown to kill the same guy over and over again, even if you can.
  • On the other hand, do play seriously, don't just fool around. Purposefully going in 1v3 is still stupid, don't do it just because you can get away with it at this MMR. On the flip-side, if you made an honest mistake and suddenly find yourself 1v3, don't let yourself die just because you don't care about the outcome of this game, and do your best to get away alive. In a nutshell, do your best, just as if it was a Ranked game.
  • EDIT: as per popular request, I'll add another point. Don't Ranked on your smurf if it is below your real MMR. That should be obvious. It's not fun for the people you're stomping, and it devalues the achievement of your team-mates. It's not fun for anyone.

So that's it, people. What do you think about it, and what do you do when you're smurfing yourself?

147 Comments

KuroTheHero41 votes

I smurf a lot and I make a point of defending my lane opponent if I win. Sadly there are 3 things I hear in about 75% of my smurf games

  1. You're not a smurf, you just got lucky because your opponent is trash
  2. Report "x" he's intentionally trolling/feeding
  3. If I was vsing you, I woulda won lane

I make a point of hunting those people down

DeathBurst13 votes

That's so true, sadly. Worse thing is, oftentimes the player flaming is much worse than your laner that, even though he lost, played safe, built defensively and made the best he could from a bad situation, whereas the flamer just won his lane, could have carried the game, but don't understand the flow of the game and took bad decisions. He's much more responsible for his team's loss, and he doesn't even realize it, just because his score his better :s

Aguy772 votes

I've seen people who are ahead lose games single handedly by flaming their already-behind team, rather than giving them an encouraging "Don't worry guys just help me carry" or "Stick to me and farm up" or something and it almost instantly turns an almost lost game into a guaranteed lost game. remember you can't make the comeback if you flamed your mid lane until they DC'd and your jungler keeps running it down mid out of spite of you

Hyrum Graff8 votes

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I make a point of hunting those people down

Garen JUSTICE

Mistress Shyvana21 votes

I love this. This is amazing and is absolutely right. This needs to be stickied and endorsed. It's okay to smurf for whatever your reason is. Just be helpful and don't be an ass. Remember, not everyone smurfs. There are actual new players that need to be taught.

Upvote this for DAYSSSSSSS http://m.imgur.com/gallery/gdAqzdU

MrPharmD7 votes

Couple things:

First and foremost, don't be an ass. If you normally play at a much higher level, have hundreds or thousands of game of experience, of course you'll stomp your opponents. Don't brag, it's not extraordinary, it's just logical.

One of the most annoying things is when 'smurfs' rage at teammates for "being bad". Like, obviously I'm bad sometimes. Are you really that unintelligent that you can't grasp the concept of new players not playing well?

Be open about it. Honestly tell your real level, so that your opponent doesn't feel too bad. And explain why you are doing it (to play with a friend, to train a new champ, etc.), so that they don't get angry.

Personally, I don't care about this. If my enemy kicks my ass there is a 95% chance he is smurfing. I don't need him to "/all just smurfing" me. Secondly, he doesn't have to explain shit as to why he is doing it. And so your opponent doesn't feel too bad? I'm sorry but people need to just not be so sensitive with regards to that.

If you can, try to teach a little, both to your own team and to the opponent. For instance, make a dragon call, and explain why now is a good time, or ping back when someone else makes a bad call, but also explain why it's too dangerous right now. And if an opponent is making an obvious mistake and you kill them for it, tell them what was the mistake. And as per the first point, don't be condescending or bragging while doing it. Builds are also an easy thing to constructively comment upon.

Having played this game for a decent amount of time, I can absolutely say not to do this. Most of your teammates will ignore you anyway. The other ones will cry that you're "being toxic" when you ask them nicely not to chase the enemy tank into an unwarded jungle. This isn't even a smurfing issue. That vast majority of players take criticism as "toxic", regardless of whether or not it is right or who it is coming from. It's just how the community that plays this game acts.

Try to show some mercy. Don't actively try to make someone life miserable or don't blow everything you have just to get that 15th kill just for the glory of it, if it's obviously not worth it. Obvious example that comes to mind is: if you play Rengar, don't always use your ult on cooldown to kill the same guy over and over again, even if you can.

I don't agree with this one either. Sure, it sucks ass when someone repeatedly rekts me. But, they are probably testing the limits of their champion. It also has taught me how to be better. Like, if the enemy is that much better than you, just tower farm as safely as possible. Losing 3 cs isn't as bad as dying and then losing 10 cs while you're dead. I mean, do you also tell new players not to do so well? You have to learn. Eventually you will be playing these guys in ranked matches. I'll be playing them in like 10 levels. It goes quickly.

On the other hand, do play seriously, don't just fool around. Purposefully going in 1v3 is still stupid, don't do it just because you can get away with it at this MMR. On the flip-side, if you made an honest mistake and suddenly find yourself 1v3, don't let yourself die just because you don't care about the outcome of this game, and do your best to get away alive. In a nutshell, do your best, just as if it was a Ranked game.

I wish this were specific to smurfs...but sadly it's not. There are so many people that just fuck around and lose on purpose for shits and giggles. Makes no difference to me whether it's the new player or the smurf doing it.

Just wanted to add some heresy to your thread :)

S H A Y C 05 votes

Interesting related factoid

I was recently sent a short 2 question survey from riot on a new level 6 smurf.

1.) how long since you played league of legends

2.) we see you are in the process of making a smurf account and would like to know the reasons why.

I thought this was interesting.

DeathBurst2 votes

Yeah, as I mentioned already in other answers, Riot claimed that they are able to detect smurfs (your story is just yet another confirmation) and that they separated them from true beginners. That's why I'm not too worried about new players below level 30. The problem is more when you reach level 30 and/or you are playing premade with real beginners, because then you can't remain in the smurf-only "queue".

VoidStaresBack4 votes

I approve of all these rules. It's just unfortunate that I've never encountered a smurf like this, who actually gives allies and enemies alike positive feedback. I think the biggest issue a smurf can run across trying to live out these rules of etiquette is that it's very hard to frame advice in such a way that it won't anger the other team (or your allies, if you're giving them advice). People who are losing their lanes tend to be on edge already, and in many cases could perceive friendly advice as a personal attack and respond accordingly.

I'd actually add one rule of my own to this: Don't play carry champions unless you're smurfing specifically to learn a new champion. It's more fun for allies and gives the enemy a fighting chance if you play a champion who mainly serves as an enabler for your allies, like a tank or classic support, while you can still play seriously and affect the outcome of the game without being overpowering.

DeathBurst2 votes

Re: the phrasing, I use a lot of "you should try" and lots of smileys. That's not fool-proof, but that helps. Acknowledging the good stuff they do also helps them receive the (constructive) critics more easily.

Re: carry champions, that's a nice idea. Someone else already suggested to play only champs you're not comfortable with, but this variant is good too.

Baunjo4 votes

I played on a level 11 acount to about level 18 because I had received a 2 week ban ( well deserved )

My most memorable experience where it was actually necessary to say I was smurfing was when I played Poppy against Irelia , never missed a wall stun, abused bushes which is something I didn't think was uncommon in that level and proxy farmed with Q and item 3025 .

I even added the guy afterwards and explained the situation, I taught him how and when to proxy farm and better laning techniques to not let that happen to him.

DeathBurst4 votes

That was a very thoughtful attitude from someone who just got a ban. Kudos to you ;)

Sypher The Poro4 votes

It's not just smurfing, but I feel these rules apply when playing against a champion you know the instructions and outs of.

For example, I play Riven far more than is healthy. My mastery score is 330K, and play her several times a day.

The other day I was doing a normal with some friends and got matched up against a Riven top as Nasus. Now, normally this lane is heavily in Riven's favor, but I was able to predict the combos she used, and ended the game 10/0.

I will admit, everyone stopped taking the game seriously when someone on their team AFK'ed so my score is slightly inflated because Draven was curious to see how much damage my Question did to him.

Anyway, I spent the entire game coaching the Riven on the proper play style and build path vs Nasus. She was receptive, and thanked me for the tips. It made the game a lot more enjoyable for both of us.

DeathBurst2 votes

Yeah, we could definitely generalize that to "Etiquette of being the better player", but it doesn't sound as neat as the current title :p

That being said, I wouldn't coach my opponent, even if I crushed him, in a Ranked game on my main account. I'd be glad to talk with him after the game, but I don't have time for that during the game itself.

Sypher The Poro4 votes

Oh, in ranked there is no mercy. In ranked, I will tower dive that 0/5 enemy laner for another free kill and then spam my level 7 emote afterwards.

ModDesonance3 votes

These are actually pretty great ideas being thrown around here. You've earned my upvote op! ^_^

Elikain3 votes

I don't get your etiquette. You're smurfing for a specific reason (to learn someone i presume) and if you're not taking this "seriously" because you're taking it easy on someone, what's the point? I know this sounds dickish but taking it easy on someone serves what purpose? You're robbing them of the actual experience they need to deal with a player like you and you're robbing yourself from practicing with a champion, like you wanted in the first place.

If you're feeling sorry for the people you're stomping, why are you smurfing in the first place? You can't do this in Normal games on your main? Playing someone new in ranked for the purpose of practicing is disrespectful towards the people in that ELO, regardless if your intentions are good or not.

DeathBurst6 votes

I did not advocate to "go easy on someone", I advocated "not making their life miserable on purpose". There is no point in blowing flash+ignite just to get that 5th kill in a row on the same person when you could as well let him escape and still force an objective, and that wouldn't be the smart thing to do in competitive.

Note my ending words:

In a nutshell, do your best, just as if it was a Ranked game.

Elikain3 votes

If you can win, you win. There's no such thing as "let someone escape to get an objective". If it's a kill vs an objective, it depends how much are you giving up to get it. You obviously want to get something that has more value for you or your team but if you can get both, you get both. I agree with the message you're trying to send (don't be a massive cock to people who are really bellow your skill level) but i don't like the wording and "etiquette" because it conflicts with the meaning of leading your team to victory.

For example, i don't take pride in winning a 4v5 if someone DCs on the enemy team but i am not deliberately refusing to win for my team because i want the match to be fair either. It wasn't my fault this happened and no enemy team is going to spare my team when the ball is in their court.

DeathBurst3 votes

I never ever said to "refuse to win" or to not "lead your team to victory".

There are kills not worth taking. I didn't say to choose between a kill and an objective, I said to choose between "a kill with a flashy play and then an objective" and "letting someone escape and go straight for the objective". This is especially true if you are blowing important cool-downs to kill for the N-th time a player who is completely shut-down, that would be stupid and totally not worth in a more balanced game, so don't do it just because it's flashy and spectacular and you can get away with it on your smurf.

But anyway, this was just 1 example, in 1 bullet, compared to the whole post. If we agree on the general message, that's good ;)

Elikain1 votes

Kills are as important as CS, unless you're a support. Kill and then the objective sounds like a perfect worth scenario for me. If you leave someone alive while you're doing it, then you risk having more people trying to stop you or getting in your way.

Riven and Rengar players tend to do exactly what you hate and that is to worry about kills more than actually winning the game, to prove their superiority to their victims. But if Riven or Rengar is dumpstering someone on their lane and no one is coming to help the other guy, i don't see why Riven or Rengar should take it easy on someone if the point is to push them away from their towers they don't take a hint that they can't do anything about it.

DeathBurst4 votes

Kills aren't always worth taking, no.

Blowing your 2 summoner spells with 3-5 minutes of cool-downs for a 0-5 player who isn't worth any substantive amount of gold anymore, when you will get nothing out of this kill, that's a bad idea.

Chasing someone under their T2, getting the kill but having to back afterwards, when you could let them leave and take the T1, that's clearly a bad idea. Chasing them under their T2, when they clearly showed they wanted to back, and taking the T1 afterwards, that's a slightly less bad idea, but that's still useless when you could have gone straight for the T1.

There are plenty of situations like that, where a kill isn't worth, or worth so little you can as well not take it, and still win the game. Taking the kill would be stupid in a more balanced game and would only serve to make someone feel bad in a game you're stomping. If you control the flow of the game and still win in the end, that's not going easy on people.

I don't understand why you can't see the difference between mercilessly killing someone for no other purpose than the kill itself and killing people when this is the logical next step to win the game.

VanixAtTheDisco3 votes

I recently made an Azir only account, because I wanted to play a one trick pony account. This was also before I noticed all this hatred for Azir on the boards, but nevertheless I didn't play him much on my main but I adore his playstyle and theme. This is my first smurf account, and I can truly say that I feel terrible for any new players. I don't brag when I get fed, I hardly ever talk in all chat, but not even because I'm fighting new players. It's because 90% of my games consist of 8+ smurfs of varying skill levels. Some are silvers, some are diamonds, you can tell from their mechanics or their summoner names. Maybe it's because I was placed in a smurf-only queue and Riot is able to know who is too skilled for the early levels. Needless to say, if that's not the case, new players are going to struggle to even make it to lv30 dealing with so many skilled players. I just want to get my smurf to lv30 and play Legitimate ranked games but unfortunately I have to level up the same way all people do.

Edit: Also... the amount of Blood Moon Yasuo's I've seen from level 1 to 13 is absurd.

Catastrop3 votes

{quoted}

  • First and foremost, don't be an ass. If you normally play at a much higher level, have hundreds or thousands of game of experience, of course you'll stomp your opponents. Don't brag, it's not extraordinary, it's just logical.

I love this point, so many smurfs brag about being able to climb ELO's with some strange pick and lord it over the lower ELO players as if that's supposed to be some great achievement.

Solari Fortune2 votes

I just want to say one thing about Smurfs They were happening in the old system of Solo/Duo Queue, yet some people on the boards seem completely blind to that fact and only think smurfs have been happening because of Dynamic Queue

DeathBurst2 votes

I fully agree with your remark, but that's not the topic of this thread. Please let's not make it yet another SoloQ vs DynQ thread ;)

Bagguette2 votes

Well if you put EXPERT on your smurf, you should be placed with other smurfs.

DarkRitual2 votes

Don't play ranked grouped with people who belong in lower divisions.

TwinkiePro2 votes

Unfortunately, if you smurf, I'm going to be angry at you. It doesn't matter what your reasons are, you are still unfairly tilting the game in your favor. I'm not upset that you are better than me (I'm silver, I'm on the bottom of the barrel, so most people are better than me), I'm upset because you are not playing with your own skill level, basically lying to the game that you belong in a game with me.

Sugar coat it all you want, it doesn't make you any less of an asshole.

DeathBurst1 votes

Well, here are my reasons to smurf, as a reminder, from another answer.

  • playing with lower level friends. I can make sure I'm not making their opponents life miserable when I play at their MMR, I cannot make sure MY opponents don't make MY FRIENDS life miserable if they play at my MMR.
  • training new champs. I'm not mechanically good with new champs, so I'm matched against lower players, and I often win through simple game knowledge and experience, not through outplay. Thing is, I need to practice against opponents that are at my level of mechanics, and I can't magically forget my experience.

If I do NOT smurf, I'm also "unfairly tilting" the game. Instead fo being un-fun for you and your team, it will be un-fun for me and my team, but you don't want someone who spent hundreds of games playing Tanks suddenly playing Assassins at his top MMR. You don't want a Gold and Bronze premades and playing at a Silver level, either. It's much better if they play at Bronze level with a smurf account for the Gold player, if he realizes the unfairness and counteract it. By smurfing and tilting things in MY favor, I can acknowledge that's it's unfair and reduce the problems. I cannot ask that from my opponents if I'm not smurfing.

TwinkiePro1 votes

Still cannot agree with those terms. While I understand you want to make the game fun for your friends, it makes it the opposite for your enemies and I consider it toxic behavior as it is intentionally making the game unfair, even if not verbally. You could play with your friends in ARAM, but I cannot condone the use of smurfing just to make your friends feel better and your enemies worse. Play on equal playing field or don't play at all.

the best comparison I can come up with is basketball for kids, you don't have a bunch of 5 year olds with one 25 year old against another team of all 5 year olds. Just because you dress like a kid and act like a kid doesn't hide your advantage. I don't care if your 5 year old friends are having fun, those other kids probably aren't.

DeathBurst2 votes

You can either dress as a 5 y.o. and play against a bunch of other 5 y.o. and try to make it a positive experience for everyone. Or you can openly be a 25 y.o. and have your team of (5 y.o. + you) playing against a team of 8 y.o., because that's what LoL match-making is doing, in essence. Both situation can be terrible and un-fun. But in the second situation, you can't ask the 8 y.o. to be fair-play with the 5 y.o., they didn't choose the situation, it's not their problem, they have no reason to care. In the first situation, the 25 y.o. can ensure that the match will still remain an enjoyable experience for everyone. Maybe he won't, maybe he's a dick. But he CAN take responsibility. And this thread was a reminder that he should, and a few tips on how to do it.

You could argue that a 25 y.o. shouldn't play with 5 y.o. at all. But even if you disagree, let's be pragmatic: it WILL happen, no matter your own opinion on the topic. So we could as well try and find solutions together to make it better for everyone.

TwinkiePro1 votes

The idea is balance. Even if it has it swings, that doesn't make it okay. It's simply excuses, and you are trying to make it out that smurfing is okay; You are endorsing it, and that's the worst part.

It's like trying to come up with etiquette to torture. it's just silly. it's gonna happen, so you may as outline the guidelines to that as well. Sure, that's an extreme example, but losing because of a smurf is basically a lower form of torture, and your opponents don't even know it.

Yes it happens, but it doesn't mean lie down and accept it. The point is fighting back, not becoming part of the problem.

DeathBurst2 votes

So in your opinion, I should just take a champ I never played and play it on my main account, at the MMR I reached after spending hundreds of games on my main champs, and just get stomped and ruin the games for my team-mates by feeding my lane? I should choose between not playing with my friends at all or getting them matched with someone a full tiers above them and watch them be stomped while I stomp my own lane?

I'm sorry, but that's no better than me smurfing. I guess we'll have to disagree. And yes, I'm "making it out that smurfing" CAN be okay. If you take your responsibilities and precautions.

TwinkiePro1 votes

Playing with friends is probably the only good argument that can be made. If you want to learn a new champ, bots is good for that, where you can practice combos effectively without worrying about negatively affecting your allies.

As for your friends fighting higher elos, I've done it, why can't they? I've played with a Diamond, plat, and gold, with me and another silver all in one game before. Their team was roughly equal as well, at least team wise. I at least understood what I was getting into, and brought that upon myself. No one was smurfing, and we all had a great time as the game was fairly fun even though we got our asses handed to us.

And the best part? No one was tilting the game unfairly. I think it's far better than smurfing, everyone knows what they are getting into without any veils. Lebron James isn't going to play in the little league without facing against Curry.

DeathBurst2 votes

If you really believe that bots are a good training, I have bad news for you... My current Ekko could pwn bots easily, and yet I have a below 50% winrate against people in low Silver. My main account is in low Gold. Training versus bots is useless past 2-3 games.

Regarding friends against higher ELO, your description is not representative of my experience. Usually, it's not Lebron in one team and Curry in the other, it's more Lebron in one team with complete noobs versus a full team of semi pro. And I would completely agree with you, what you describe could be fun, but what happened to me isn't, even if you are the Lebron of this game. I honestly believe I can make it a more positive experience for everybody by smurfing, even if it's "unfairly tilting the game". A game can be an enjoyable experience even when you lose, and it can feel terrible even if you win in the end. Especially when it is not Ranked.

DREADN0UGHT2 votes

Whenever I try giving advice to other players on my silver 4 smurf, people tell me to ''stfu'' and ''kys''

So idk what I should be saying tbh.

DemonofDota1 votes

Smurfing is a problem created by banning people for being mean. this is why you should ban the truly toxic people rather than those who get mad at them.

DeathBurst4 votes

{quoted}

Smurfing is a problem created by banning people for being mean. this is why you should ban the truly toxic people rather than those who get mad at them.

Among the 60+ comments already posted on this thread, no one mentioned that reason for smurfing yet. Smurfing has almost nothing to do with bans. And if people don't understand that after a punishment they need to change their way, not start a smurf, they'll just be banned again. But toxic people are another problem entirely.

Baunjo1 votes

I wouldn't say that. I am personally willing to admit I leveled a level 11 account I had made back in like s3 because I received bans from leaving games, and played it longer this spring because I received a 2 week ban. I found it was more helpful doing this than just not playing for 2 weeks whatsoever, I began teaching players and practicing patience with mistakes that happen more than too often at that level, but that could have just been because I could carry all of the games regardless.

DeathBurst3 votes

Yeah, but smurfing because of bans is one reason among many others, and probably not the most common one. On top of that, it doesn't matter why you smurf, what is important is that your are playing below your real level, and how you should behave because of that.

Saying, as DemonofDota did, that people smurf because of bans, and that if the ban system was better, people wouldn't smurf, it's just a plain lie AND not relevant to this thread.

Baunjo2 votes

I see now. That is true.

DemonofDota1 votes

Meh, whatever you want to think. I was banned and this account just hit lvl 30. In my first normal game at level thirty the teams looked like this: Team 1: Diamond, Diamond, Platinum, Gold, Me Team 2: Diamond, Diamond, Diamond, Platinum, Platinum

It's not any fun for me either. I'm just saying. There is nothing fun about me being forced to stomp a bunch of new players. It is definitely one of the major causes of smurfs. If you can't see that i am truly sorry for you.

DeathBurst2 votes

Hum, you're trying to say that you being matched with a bunch of Plat/Diamond, it's not fun for you to stomp on new players? What are you, Challenger?

And THEN, on top of that, you're trying to sell that as an evidence that proves that bans are the major cause of smurfs? I mean, there is 0 logical connection between the 2 statements... The first neither proves nor disproves the second, it's just totally unrelated.

I'm sorry, but based on the people who participated on this thread, and based on previous statements from Riot, I strongly doubt that the main reason of creating a smurf is having your main account banned. It doesn't fit with the people I know who play the game either. So sure, it's just anecdotal evidence and words of god, but that's still much more convincing than just your own word.

DemonofDota1 votes

Whatever u want to think is fine, I have smurfed around 7 or 8 times, and only due to bans from language etc. which is stupid in my opinion.

Nik Nikerson2 votes

That's not smurfing, that's getting your account taken away and having to start over.

Zer0Honor1 votes

Honestly for those of us that don't smurf or have reason to since we are silver/bronze its very very rude that riot allows it. We don't want to fight a diamond player on a silver smurf account in ranked. If you feel you need a 2nd account then that 2nd account should be lumped with everyone else playing a 2nd account. Its not fair or fun for those of use who want to be casuals or even work on climbing...Either climbing skill in normal or rank in ranked. Smurfs have no place in this game other then ruinning the game for lower elo players they know aren't on the same level as them and is something riot needs to reconsider as "acceptable".

DeathBurst3 votes

The point of the thread was to discuss what smurfing players could do to precisely NOT ruin the games of those who aren't at the same level. And given the reaction thus far, it seems that most people agree with that and would try to not ruin your games.

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