I should be allowed to defend myself and not get banned

Mannny··2 votes·832 views

No this never happened to me, I have never been banned. This is a situation that happened previously to a cool dude I found in Solo Queue. We were in game, he was playing Amumu as our mid lane Fizz was getting angry at him for not ganking. The Fizz died 6 times during the lane phase because of the enemy jungler and he said it was our amumus fault for being bad and not ganking. Amumu told him that it was his fault for not warding, and that he wanted to spread his power elsewhere. Fizz kept fighting him about it, even intentionally not helping with Dragon and saying "Why should I help you, you didn't help me!". They dissed each other back and forth until I told Amumu to mute him, which he did. After the match I befriended the Amumu, only to find out he was Chat Restricted??? If someone is defending themselves, why are they in the wrong? Many people are taught at a young age to not let others push you over, so of course this would transfer online. There is no reason that anyone who is defending themselves should get punished. I rarely post on this forum in particular, but this made me very angry. Regardless if the Fizz got punished or not, Amumu did nothing wrong here. That's all I wanted to say.

-End Rant

15 Comments

Kei1438 votes

counter attacks are not defending.

mute / ignore is defense.

EDIT: also, realise that the punishment didn't happen over a single game. There has to be a history of him being negative / harassing others for him to get punished. Unless he was using racial / homophobic slurs, inwhich he should be thankful it was just a chat restriction.

Xidphel8 votes

You ARE allowed to defend yourself. It's called mute and report.

EvilDustMan7 votes

Because if anything, Amumu just made things worse.

o Maui o5 votes

They dissed each other back and forth

This would be the problem. At this point he's not defending himself, he's contributing to the toxicity. The only thing worse than having a jerk on your team is having two jerks on your team.

Mannny1 votes

He wasn't the one being the jerk though. He was dissing him because he dissed him first. If someone punches you will you let it go, or will you punch back?

Sarutobi7 votes

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He wasn't the one being the jerk though. He was dissing him because he dissed him first. If someone punches you will you let it go, or will you punch back?

Completely different situations because its something physical. It would closer to saying if someone called you a slur in public, would you go up to them and repeat it/say something worse thus escalating it further, or just be mature, ignore it and walk away?

hshtagniemehrcdu6 votes

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He wasn't the one being the jerk though. He was dissing him because he dissed him first. If someone punches you will you let it go, or will you punch back?

We are not talking about a phyiscal attack here. You can mute, and instantly negate any further verbal attack. You could also write back in a non-flaming way.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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He wasn't the one being the jerk though. He was dissing him because he dissed him first. If someone punches you will you let it go, or will you punch back?

Similar. You have two options. Swing back and escalate the situation into a full blown fight, or leave it. But it isn't quite the same.

All he did was escalate the situation and made things worse.

Kei1432 votes

you can punch back, and when the cops come both will get arrested.

blocking the punch is not the same as throwing a punch back.

Xidphel1 votes

If someone punches you will you let it go, or will you punch back?

Depends. Do you have the option to magically make him disappear? Muting is the closest equivalent in LoL so go for that option.

Angrychickén1 votes

If someone punches you, the easiest thing is to report it to an authority and let them sort it out, or sue the other person for assault.

archerno13 votes

Arguing isnt defending. What you told him to do is "defense". Muting. As soon as someone verbally attacks you, mute him. Thats defending yourself. And noone ever got banned for muting someone

S0kaX2 votes

Tell him to give his chat logs, then post them to see if he was just defending himself or fighting back.

Michael7021 votes

2 things:

  1. Amumu doesn't have any power.
  2. If you say anything in chat, you can get banned.
Scary Door1 votes

"Defending yourself" is only aggravating the situation. If someone is trolling you they WANT you to respond, that's the goal. So, by responding, you are doing exactly what they want you to do. Even if they aren't trolling, explain how responding is going to calm an agnry person---particularly when the response is hostility? How does that help?

The answer: It doesn't help. "Yeah, but he started it" is a terrible defense in verbal discourse.

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