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Idea for current IFS related to trolls

AeroWaffle·3/6/2019, 9:25:38 PM·3 votes·4,247 views

As many of the regulars know it's not an uncommon occurrence for someone to head here because they got into trouble for yelling at what they perceived to be a troll in their game.

While it would be nice to judge these cases differently in a perfect world, trusting everyone who is getting aggravated at a "troll" is not a realistic solution since their idea of trolling might be skewed and they were just yelling at someone doing poorly unintentionally.

But there should still be a way to take the edge off such cases where the troll is officially detected and punished for trolling in that game.

I purpose that someone who is punished for trolling should have their individual reports invalidated in the games they were found to be trolling.

If they are trolling their idea of acceptable behavior is insincere and thus Riot shouldn't trust their report in that game. This absolve those cases where the only report made against the annoyed player was from the troll attempting to illicit the response.

What my suggestion will not do is:

  • Invalidate reports from anyone else. If a third person finds the behavior unacceptable the report they make will still count.
  • Invalidate any reports from people who are not punished for being a troll. Does this mean that there will be cases where a unpunished troll still gets their report counted? Yes, but as the detection of trolls gets better the better this situation becomes and it's still better than the current situation.

Comments on this suggestion? Thoughts on potential issues?

I know some of the biggest issues with such a suggestion is going to be the programming itself and dealing with cases where it's a manual review several days after the fact that detects the troll. But nothing some diligent programming couldn't solve.

33 Comments

R107 Games3/6/2019, 9:32:55 PM2 votes

"Riot's game Riot's rules, you can't change the punishment system"

Jamaree3/6/2019, 9:34:00 PM1 votes

Not a bad idea but the two issues I see would be it not being being up to the speed that people would want as well as people getting punished for trolling then being upset that their reports don’t do anything, though that already happens anyway so meph?

stanjer1233/6/2019, 9:47:07 PM1 votes

Riot is looking to keep their chat filter clean for political reasons, they don't actually care what happens in the course of a game. They were dinged several years ago for the toxicity of their chat, and they just want to avoid the bad PR from that, they couldn't actually care less if you're trolled in game or not.

Deliberate Inter3/6/2019, 9:56:34 PM1 votes

This goes back to the thing where all false reports need to be punished.

Kei1433/7/2019, 12:51:34 AM1 votes

Objectively speaking, the biggest obstacle would be the difference in timing for review.

3 main scenarios I can think of;

  1. The verbally toxic gets punished by the IFS after the game ends and the troll gets reviewed and punished 2 weeks later

  2. The verbally toxic gets that game banked into their behavioral history, gets punished 1 week later for other toxic games and the troll gets reviewed and punished 2 weeks later.

  3. The verbally toxic gets the game banked, doesn't get punished and the troll gets reviewed and punished in 2 weeks.

Becuase of the backlog and time needed to review disruptive gameplay behavior, only the 3rd scenario would apply to your proposal.

It will be weird (and probably a feelsbadman moment) to be serving in the middle a punishment and then recieve a notification "after further review, your behavior has been pardoned and your punishment has been lifted".

Well, glad the troll got punished, but why tf did I just serve half of the punishment when I'm innocent.