being negative can BE the most positive

StpTlkinAnBndOvr·8/30/2018, 11:51:23 PM·2 votes·2,319 views

The biggest issue i find with low elo and norms is the sheer fact that if you tell someone what theyre doing is wrong. Youre flaming.

I realize you're all generally fat kids with no real rl or sports exp. so ill break it down quick

When you fuck up. Someone tellllls you you fucked up.

Then in terms of sports you then get to do things like run laps, do push ups etc etc. All of which none of you can do. So just imagine it as.....I dont know...no hot pockets for a week.

Criticism is meant to improve both you and all around you. Without it you will remain as ignorant b5 IKE's forever. He told you you cant play jax? Maybe hes not flaming maybe you're just that fcking bad. Look inwards. Then out. Think....* hey hes right....im maxing w in a ranged match up maybe thats why im being stomped....I have a vision score of 3 at 20....maybe thats why im 0-10...OK! im going to start warding im gna focus on my lane im going to LEARN AND IMPROVE".

Or just...be more NA. blame the team. call all criticism "flame" feed ure ass off and then rinse and repeat. Seems to work in general. God forbid am I right.

gj na

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30 Comments

Umbral Regent8/31/2018, 12:25:29 AM13 votes

Ignoring the hilarious amount of insults you litter into this post, you've got a lot of details wrong. If you're doing a sport (and for reference, I used to practice taekwando, so I've got sports practice under my belt), things are definitely different from what you depict it as.

First of all, if you're doing something wrong; you don't get punished for it. You get told what you're doing wrong, how you can improve, and told to improve it. I've had every manner of adjustment - from my teachers pushing my knee up to correct my stance, to being made to go through the motions of something in slow motion a couple times to get it right. Not once have I been given push-ups for doing something poorly.

Second - and this is something less of how you're depicting it and more of what you're ignoring in your depiction; you don't stop in mid-game/mid session to criticise your teammates/other practitioners. Whether you're actually playing a game sport (like football or soccer or whatever) or sparring in a combat sport (like martial arts), you don't just drop what you're doing to try and correct something you see as wrong.

And that's a two-fold thing; first, the obvious of, you're still in the game/match, so stopping to criticise someone is wasting time that could be better used doing your own thing. Second, what you see as something being done wrong may not be seen as wrong by the person you're criticising. You could be totally off on your criticism, and you wouldn't even know.

And that doubly-extends to team-related game sports like football - 'cause guess what. Stopping in the middle of a game to try and correct your teammate screws the rest of your team over, and probably results in animosity between you and your teammates. And that can lead to poor cooperation and/or you getting kicked off the team.

All said, I'm doubtful you have such a greater understanding of sports and the like as you say you do. Regardless, if you want to see improvements, improve yourself. You're the only person you can control. You aren't anyone's coach or teacher, and if people don't want your advice, they don't have to take it.

And as a sidenote; yes, it is possible for criticism to be flame. Constructive criticism isn't flame, but destructive criticism is. Judging by the insults in your post, I'd be willing to bet you err on destructive criticism instead of constructive. In which case - that's criticism you can keep to yourself.

Silent Gravity8/30/2018, 11:58:16 PM10 votes

If you're being matched with people who suck donkey balls, then there is probably some aspect of your contribution to a team's chances of winning that are equally donkey balls.

If you're matched with poor players, the first place to look is at yourself.

Gibberwatt8/30/2018, 11:55:36 PM7 votes

The feeding player can see their ratio just as much as you. They know they're getting stomped; most likely they know it a lot better than you. Let them live their life - they will either improve or they wont, and you will probably never have to see them again, anyway.

So really there isn't a point to you being an ass and bitching at them over a virtual form of entertainment with almost no impact on either of your lives.

Aneirin8/31/2018, 12:00:50 AM7 votes

I realize you're all generally fat kids with no real rl or sports exp. so ill break it down quick Then in terms of sports you then get to do things like run laps, do push ups etc etc. All of which none of you can do. So just imagine it as.....I dont know...no hot pockets for a week.

Possibly the fact that you're a condescending asshole is the reason that no-one listens to your "advice"?

Yatol8/30/2018, 11:52:56 PM6 votes

if you give constructive feedback, by telling them what they are doing wrong without insult or provocation, your not flaming. If they dont want to hear it, their loss.

floo8/31/2018, 9:07:59 AM4 votes

How often, after somebody flames you for any reason, do you think to yourself "Hm now I will play better!" Flaming doesn't have a benefit for anyone, period.

robotmaster8/31/2018, 12:13:02 AM2 votes

I feed off of your salt. It makes me stronger.

EvilDustMan8/31/2018, 2:32:46 AM1 votes

Nah

Vanilla Trubbs8/31/2018, 6:17:03 AM1 votes

I swear, the more downvotes a post in this forum has, the danker the content. I love it. I got a lot better in Season 4 when I started tryharding. Sometimes people would say mean shit, sometimes I would bitch and moan, but I would very often learn something by asking questions even to those who were rude to me. Indeed, I learned a lot from "toxic" players, and usually if you initiate a more respectful level of dialogue, they will reciprocate it. Alas, those days are long gone.

ned the kled8/31/2018, 1:02:18 PM1 votes

i killed someone, that isn't negative. it is positive

Disembark8/31/2018, 3:49:56 PM1 votes

Sounds like you suck and should uninstall the game.

Relax bro, think inward first. Just tryna help you.