How do you define Trolling?

ı Sona ı·11/30/2018, 3:41:54 AM·9 votes·8,587 views

I have long wondered how the community on average defines a troll, beyond the ever amusing Trundle memeTrundle. What do you board denizens consider trolling? Just the usual stuff, right? Those players who run it down lane just to die without even hitting the towers going "just having a bad game?" Those players who follow the jungle all game to steal their farm? The player that afks because he didn't get the gank he asked for because the jungle was on the other side of the map and the player was pushed to the tower and died from over extension gank?

Personally, I think the greatest Trolls are the ones who refuse reasonable communication. 🌟 You know what I'm talking about. When you ask the support to hang back by the turret while you back, or at least stand behind minions, so they don't get pulled by Thresh or Blitzcrank and die to the ADC, but it all happens just like that anyways. Or when you politely suggest to your mid lane that if they are being camped then perhaps they shouldn't keep hyper pushing the lane and instead focus on last hit farming even if it's a little boring, but they tell you to stfu and continue to hyper push and get killed multiple more times saying "well if my dumb jungle would gank." Or the top laner who keeps trying to 1 v 1 the other top lane but they clearly can't, and you suggest that if they calm down and focus on catching up in level and farm for a bit they may later be able to take them and they reply with "say one more thing and I'm afking." Or you are trying to explain to your ADC/Primary farmer bot lane, who has Flash on cool down, that you are out of wards so you can't ward the bushes and if you stay pushed you may get ganked, they say they are muting you, then you get ganked and you both die and the ADC says "useless trash support. " Or you pick an "off meta" (forgive me for using fake terms) choice and simply because you are a pick they don't think is a good/proper pick they use it as a reason to invalidate everything you say even if it's logical, reasonable, or game winning. "stfu your a X trying to give advice what a dumb pick I hope you get banned stupid noob, etc. "

While the vast majority of those scenarios are not all highly or even lowly punishable leave, they have just as much affect on the game as any running-it-down-the-lane insta-lock-afking-after-first-death role-steal-feeding jungle-chasing farm-stealing-just-because player. In both scenarios the players will do exactly what they want without care or consideration of consequence or how they are affecting the other players around them. The only difference between them, if any, is one does it out of malicious intent, while the other does it out of it ignorance and ego. Those who refuse reasonable communication.

[sona-playing]

34 Comments

Colonel J11/30/2018, 3:47:48 AM6 votes

Engaging in negative behavior with the sole intention of bothering others.

FullmuteAll play11/30/2018, 3:54:10 AM3 votes

Characterisitcs of troll for me:

  1. moves and communication opposite to each other
  2. clear statement of intended trolling and followed up actions
  3. frequent stupid actions/moves regardless intentional or not
  4. descreasing own effectiveness for ineffective actions/moves (e.g flaming, whining, giving advices with low possibility of positive change)
lil koda11/30/2018, 10:27:02 AM3 votes

ANYONE WHO DOESNT WIN LANE

Rıots Bad Client11/30/2018, 12:10:16 PM2 votes

Intentions to ruin the experience of the game.

Kei14311/30/2018, 4:06:49 AM2 votes

TK purposely throwing teammates into enemies. Not to be confused with using TK's devour mechanic as an engage tool.

Player generating terrains to purposefully block off escapes or recalls, not to be confused with terrains created in bad timings and mistakenly block off teammates when it was intended to help allies narrowly escape.

Following jgler in early game and killing everything in order to purposely piss off the jungler, not to be confused with lvl 1 camp mistake steals or taking camps in mid game.

Afk farming in jg or lane and not caring about anything to purposely make the game 4v5. Not to be confused with denying enemy resources or split pushing when the ally team can properly defend themselves.

Pressing S to stop AA to purposely miss kills or contribute in damage. Not to be confused with cancelling AA in attempts to orb walk or misclicks.

Purposely miss skill shots to avoid contribution. Not to be confused with missing prediction skill shots or firing skills into random air to saftely proc sheen.

deathgod511/30/2018, 9:14:06 AM1 votes

Trolling to me means: playing the game with the goal to make the game worse for others. Any other annoying thing could still be reportable but my definition of trolling stops there.

lolenforcer11/30/2018, 9:18:30 AM1 votes

The worst trolls are always ezreals who do the blue build but never use his autoattacks and only use abilities. Oh wait, they are actually trying

Need Gold 4 Tent11/30/2018, 9:18:37 AM1 votes

"Anything you do that does not please me."

(League of Snowflakes community)

KiyoYoshimaru11/30/2018, 9:31:27 AM1 votes

Trolling to me is the player who knows how to only play one role and one character but joins ranked consistently, reducing the chances of everyone around them in climbing with their lacking knowledge of fundamentals and basics.

Madjack0111/30/2018, 10:51:48 AM1 votes

Hmm I always thought that trolling had only something to do with people making jokes/ having fun at the expense of others.

Most of the stuff you mentioned seemed asocial behaviour of a different kind to me.

Gravesinger11/30/2018, 3:23:57 PM1 votes

Acting with the explicit intent of making the game less enjoyable or more difficult for your allies.

Faneseeker11/30/2018, 4:23:01 PM1 votes

Excessive chatting.

JusticeReigns11/30/2018, 4:55:51 PM1 votes

When the jungle jungles for 20 minutes straight without ever ganking, even if they are on your side of the map and the enemy is under your tower. Better yet, I think its pretty troll when the support roams into other lanes "to gank" even if the first 3 tries were unsuccessful and they are down 2 levels from the enemy support.

iamthegoatofwar11/30/2018, 5:07:05 PM1 votes

Typically people who outright try to make the game miserable and then report anyone who dares lash out at them for being a blatant ass are at the top of my list. They know if they don't say anything in chat what so ever the odds of getting noticed go down massively.

Friendly Ram11/30/2018, 5:25:10 PM1 votes

I generally save the chat box for all chat. Emotes are enough for my team.

Dr Dog11/30/2018, 5:44:32 PM1 votes

i define it as purposefully doing things that bother people or throw matches with negative intent being the driving force

Handy Sandy 11/30/2018, 10:15:30 PM1 votes

It's self explanatory and there's no need to think super deep about it. Just by looking at a situation I'm pretty sure everyone can instantly judge whether or not someone is trolling.

If someone isn't trying to win the game, and actually wants to lose then yes, it's trolling.

If MasterYi Farms in the jungle and never ganks, but still at 30 minutes flanks a team fight with his 6 items from the 400 CS he has, that is not trolling.

If MasterYi Farms in the jungle and never ganks, and at 30 minutes ignores a fight he could obviously help in, then that's trolling.

SyraKen12/1/2018, 2:22:05 AM1 votes

I think players with a vision score of 10 or less after 30 minutes are trolling. WARDS ARE FREE, USE THEM!

DeathBot66612/1/2018, 3:27:13 AM1 votes

In my opinion a troll is someone who is intentionally trying to ruin the game for other people. Although I get where you're going coming from with refusing reasonable communication, that too me is more being toxic than trolling. They are still (At least in your definition) trying to play the game properly, they just aren't being sportsmanlike players.

(NOTE, The following is my opinion in normal's. I only play ranked for my promo's, ,aside from an occasional game, so my opinion doesn't apply to that game mode) I also don't include people who play off-meta in my definition of trolling. There's a big difference between someone who picks Darius support because he wanted top and got auto-filled, and someone who's playing support, but is just playing a character that normally isn't a support. As many of my friends will tell you, I love playing some really off-meta builds (All hail Darkk-Mane). Normally I'll only do this in 5 man's, since I've gotten tired of every loss being blamed on me regardless of how well I'm actually doing that game, but I still enjoy doing it.

Nora v212/1/2018, 6:20:12 AM1 votes

If you act like you don't want to win the game and intentionally lose the game for your team , you are trolling.

Vreivai12/12/2018, 2:53:38 AM1 votes

I define a troll as someone who is intentionally being a non-productive or counter-productive member of the team.

So, behaviors including, but not limited to:

-Intentional feeding. -AFKing or other forms of non-participation -Intentionally blocking or altering allies' movement to their detriment (such as with Anivia's wall or Tahm Kench's W, Kalista's Black Spear, or just body blocking) -Intentionally disrupting an ally's ability to do their job (such as following the jungler around and attempting to last hit all the creeps) -Supplying the opposing team with information advantageous to them, such as the position of member(s) of your team, the position of your team's wards, or where your team is headed.

breakordoom44411/30/2018, 5:14:47 AM1 votes

trolling is when players are actively trying to make the game worse for (x) players. x = non-premade teammates.

YambrinZ11/30/2018, 6:47:52 AM1 votes

Locking in Trundle

1 Nasus 4 Tards11/30/2018, 7:34:04 AM1 votes

feeding non stop instead of playing safe ignores mia pings when i spam the fk out of them (and then ppl are so fast to call out others for not calling mia??????) when jg-mid duo on my team can't win 2v2 while they get invaded and then blame me, the top laner, for not helping while im 0 mana and 25% hp :D

German Invader11/30/2018, 7:57:56 AM1 votes

To me, trolling is not flaming or inting. A troll is simply someone whos goal does not allign with the goal the game had in mind. This includes things as objective goals (Destroy Nexus and Turrets, not camp in the jungle) and champion goals (Varus wants attackspeed and ad/on-hit not AP)

However, destroying the Nexus should still be a goal, it's just not their first.