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First Time Ban is Perma - Explanation/Appeal (Please Hear Me Out)

55802074DEL1·5/29/2017, 9:35:51 PM·4 votes·2,046 views

Hi there! If you are reading this, then I thank you for taking the time to read this post. For those of you who don't wanna read all of this I have written a TL;DR on the bottom.

My name is Max. I'm a 15 year old freshman in High School going onto Sophomore year. My username is xLitheon on the NA server.

Now I know that many people will dismiss me saying that I deserved a perm ban for being toxic, etc. But please read completely so therefore I can give you the best image of who I am and my situation.

So for the past couple of days. I haven't been playing ranked much and the 3 games that I was reported for, I was playing Ranked Flex with my friends just having fun.

I have gotten chat restrictions before. And I have completed all of them. I believe I have only gotten 3 chat restrictions as apart of my punishments.

A few of my friends that have been banned for toxicity before have only gotten 2-Week bans for the first time.

I honestly am not sure what to say or what to do.

I got banned last night. I got off, and tried to fall asleep unsuccessfully.

I was questioning why they permanently banned me for the first time that I have gotten a ban. I believe the only punishments that I have gotten before regarding toxicity were chat restrictions. I got 3 chat restrictions. One in November (10 Game), One in January (25 Game), and the last one was in April (25 Game).

I honestly thought that if I did get a ban it would be for 1 or 2 weeks.

I couldn't sleep well at all, only got about 5.5 hrs. I was having nightmares/panic attacks and was awaking from my sleep frequently because of this.

I have finals in the next few days and because of this I'm having an extreme lack of motivation. It's affecting my life outside of it.

I am also having stress-induced asthma attacks that I usually get before a sporting event. But when it happened for this it was extreme. I have been coughing nonstop since the ban, till now. It's affecting my health negatively.

Now you might be asking. "Why are you so worried/sad?" I have spent 110$, 1200+ hours, and majority of my online friends are on that account. My past year is on that account.

I appealed to Riot asking them to at least reduce to a temporary ban. I know that I'm an idiot. I know that I shouldn't have said what I have said. But I promise, on my life, I will reform. I will never ever be toxic again if I do get my ban lifted. I am asking wholeheartedly from the bottom of my heart for them to please reconsider my ban.

Because of this I can't play and I don't know what to do at the moment. It's Memorial Day, I didn't ask to hang out with any of my friend yesterday or today. I really want to play champions such as Katerina, Ekko, and Twisted Fate for fun. But every time I have that thought I realize that I have been banned.

Here are the chat logs that I have been banned for. I know there are homophobic slurs in my chat logs, and to all of my friends and people in the LGBTQ+ community. I am sorry. I will sincerely not use your sexuality as an insult. It is 2017 after all. Also, in my logs I wasn't racist in any sort of way. If that helps at all.

https://pastebin.com/DJuFXbNJ

Context on the games that I are in question.

Game 1 The first game in which I was toxic, the BlitzCrank on the other team was beating me in lane and was saying to "Get Out", "Stay Out", "So ez", etc. I know that I shouldn't have let this got to me. I know I should've muted him. But I didn't. I also realize that I was flaming our WarWick, even before the laning phase and that was because I was a douchebag/asshole and I shouldn't have done that.

Game 2 This was when I was playing ranked flex w/ my friend Brandon. The beginning part of flaming was actually a mutual joke as you can see here: http://prntscr.com/fdkgt7 The rest was me calling the rest of the team idiots. Now I know I did this way to much. It was in part influenced by the fact that I had a higher rank than most of them. I know I shouldn't have done that but all I did was just repeatedly call them idiots. The worst thing was "Fucking idiots" Game 3 This was when I played a game of Lee Sin. I did extremely well in the early game getting 15 kills at around 20 mins. I carried hard from the early game. And all I can say for myself is that I was being cocky, arrogant, and a dick to my team and the enemy team. I kept calling myself "clean" when I'm far from a "clean" Lee Sin player. And overall I was just being a bad team mate.

On a side note - If you guys want I could upload these matches unlisted on YouTube. Whilst I was in these matches I was using plays.tv All 3 of these matches have me and a friend in them so you can see the voice comms and how I'm not really verbally abusing anyone out loud. I was just doing it because I'm a cocky bastard.

In conclusion, I'm not saying I don't deserve punishment. That fact is obvious. All I am asking for is a second chance. I have talked to a few people and they said that a first time ban being permanent is way too far. And I am just asking for the ban to be put as temporary. I know that I'm a toxic player. But I promise sincerely and from the bottom of my heart for them to make this ban temporary. I will reform. And that is a promise. I really don't want to lose an account that I worked extremely hard for. I would also like to ask you guys what you think about this. Therefore I have put a poll asking what you guys think about the ban/punishment. Once again, words cannot explain how sorry I am to all the people that I have offended and hurt by making these comments. I can't even explain in words how to even show how much I'm asking to be forgiven. I'm wholeheartedly asking Riot for a second chance. Since I never got a chance the redeem/reform myself. I didn't even have a temporary ban before the permanent.

TL;DR - I'm Max a 15 year old Freshman in High school. League has been my main hobby outside of school since August. I have recently gotten permanently banned for toxicity. Now I'm not saying that I'm not toxic but I feel like the ban was extremely harsh. I have gotten 3 punishments of chat restrictions. And I have completed all of them. The toxicity that has made me receive this ban has only been from the past 2 days of playing. I feel like that is hardly an amount of time and number of games to really see me as a player. I promise you I'm not usually toxic. I just have those spikes in behaviors sometimes, and I will work my hardest towards fixing it. Anyway, the ban has been affecting my outside life. My sleep quality has deteriorated, I'm receiving panic attacks, and I'm also feeling lack of motivation, knowing that my account can be gone forever. The past year has been on that account and I know I shouldn't have done the things I did, but if Riot gives me a chance to prove myself I promise that I will not let them down. In ANY circumstance. The reason I'm making a forum post is to see my fellow summoner's opinion on this matter. Knowing that it could possibly help my case. If you guys could take the poll below for me I would strongly appreciate it. Thank you once again. And I'm sorry for all the people that I have offended once again.

If you have read this then I thank you once again for taking your time to look into me and my situation. If you could put your opinion on the poll below that would help me a lot as well.

Thank you.

Edit 1 : It's been about 20 Hours since the ban and I haven't received any sort of e-mail regarding the details or context of the ban.

Edit 2 : Thank you so much to all the people so far that have commented. I really do appreciate you taking the time to give your opinion / look into me and my situation.

Edit 3 : If you guys still want to read, but I have screenshots of the appeal that I have sent to Riot. I really do hope that you could look into this and see my situation from there.

http://prntscr.com/fdifmw

http://prntscr.com/fdifsc

http://prntscr.com/fdifxg

http://prntscr.com/fdig0t

101 Comments

Kei1435/29/2017, 9:58:29 PM6 votes

if you don't understand the punishment ladder, it goes as follows:

  1. 10 game chat restriction
  2. 25 game chat restriction
  3. 14-day ban
  4. permaban

Extreme toxicity (such as the use of homophobic / racial slurs or telling them to harm themselves) can skip punishment tiers.

Playing lots of games without toxicity can drop punishment tiers.

If you've gotten 3 chat restrictions and then jumped to permaban, chances are you were extremely toxic and thus skipped the 14-day ban.

There is never a reason to use homophobic / racial slurs. Neither is there a point to tell others to harm themselves.

Zielmann5/29/2017, 9:45:22 PM6 votes

So to be clear, this is not your first punishment. You've had three sets of chat restrictions in the past half a year or so. Typically another punishment would result in a 2-week ban. However, there are cases where players can skip a tier. One of the fastest ways to skip a tier (sometimes multiple) is to go around spewing hate speech. Which you at least acknowledge that you did, and it is right there in the logs you link to (several times, actually). Especially given your history of punishments, I'm not really surprised that these logs have you skipping a tier. Looking closer, you have much more to work on than the hate speech, too. There's hardly anything positive in your chat logs at all. And you seem to love calling your teammates idiots, and generally harassing them all game long.

The chat restrictions from the past should have made it plainly clear that your behavior isn't welcome in league, and that you needed to make a change. Is there a reason that you were waiting on a 2-week ban to clean up your act instead?

Chermorg5/29/2017, 11:38:18 PM4 votes

While I sympathize with you and do hope you can reform if your ban is reduced, I for one think that it would be better for you to focus on why it happened and, if you choose to make a new account and return, focus on not making the same mistakes again.

I was 15 once. I was in high school once. I know that the way you behave in the logs you posted is how kids in high school act. That doesn't make it right, nor something that you should be okay with doing. The problem isn't that you are behaving this way so much as it is that I don't see that you're genuinely understanding that the behavior (all of it, not just slurs, not just cursing, etc.) is not acceptable and frankly it's embarrassing. What will you say if your future college admissions personnel see this post and the way you've communicated?

Until you can break the habit of immature communication, I don't think you can truly ask for your ban to be reduced. The fact that of your first ten messages that had more than one word, over half contained a curse word and/or slur should not be something you are proud of. Considering you had 3 punishments previously, I doubt that this is anything new for you. I don't see how you can sit here and post those chat logs and not be embarrassed at the way you're communicating, even if it is only with friends.

Some statistics I've found (from only the first game): Only around 55% of your messages are more than one word. Almost 20% of your messages include a curse word or slur. 30% of your messages are written in allcaps (screaming). Over half (51%) of your messages are targeting one or a small group of people in the game with extremely negative messages that are not constructive. Over 1/4 of your messages are spammy in nature, repeating things you said multiple times. Only about 10% of your messages were actually passing constructive information to your team, and that's with a very liberal interpretation of "constructive".

If you can't accept this proof you have a problem with your idea of good communication, you shouldn't be playing league. This type of communication, while commonplace in high school, is not appropriate and instead of allowing yourself to be a part of it, you should be actively trying to ensure you are not a part of it. There is no reason to claim family problems as a reason for your toxicity, because trust me, you don't know what some people are going through and are not toxic.

Finally, reading some of your replies to other comments shows me that you are not remorseful for your toxicity. You seem to genuinely not care about the games you've ruined for other people, whether it was one other person, two other people, or 9 other people. You care about your money, the time spent playing the game, and the fact that you have friends that you've made on League that you now cannot communicate with due to your own actions. You use your real life health issues (stress-induced asthma/panic) as an attempt to make people feel sympathy for you, when in reality if League is affecting your life to the point stress over a ban is causing you to experience panic/asthma attacks, you should immediately uninstall League and focus on your health (both mental and physical). I can completely understand the feelings you have for League, but you are describing symptoms of an addiction that is potentially more powerful than addictions to nicotine and alcohol. Just as people find it hard to quit those things, I think it will be hard for you to accept your ban, but you will need to do so and focus on your upcoming finals and your health before you ever try to continue playing online games.

Wishing you all the best and hopefully I have provided some insight into your chat-logs.

Martensitic5/30/2017, 5:06:55 PM3 votes

xLitheon: fucking f***ot

Homophobic slurs and similar extreme toxicity warrant an immediate escalation of punishment tiers, up to and including, a permanent ban.

This in combination with the fact that almost every single line of your chat is insulting, or humiliating teammates and / or opponents, leaves only one conclusion:

#BAN WELL DESERVED. Thank you Riot for taking such swift and decisive action in this case!

Bye.

ModAttysu The Poro6/3/2017, 3:12:47 AM2 votes

Remember, punishment works on a tier system, you do not simply get escalated to a permaban unless what you did was extremely sever. You can find those here.

10 game chat restriction 25 game chat restriction 14-day Suspension Permanent ban

Either way, you were extremely toxic in these chatlogs, and the ban was put in place because of it. Here are a few examples of unacceptable behavior in your logs;

xLitheon: you fucking idiot xLitheon: ww xLitheon: mhm xLitheon: idiot xLitheon: piece of shit xLitheon: idiot xLitheon: gtfo xLitheon: fucking %%%got xLitheon: you got a gank xLitheon: fuck off

xLitheon: what ya gonna do? xLitheon: bitch xLitheon: no xLitheon: no xLitheon: no xLitheon: NO xLitheon: STAY OUT KIDDD xLitheon: YEAH I AM xLitheon: stay out xLitheon: kid xLitheon: STAY
xLitheon: THE xLitheon: FUCK OUT xLitheon: THIS IS MY GAME xLitheon: BITCH xLitheon: NO xLitheon: YOU BMD' SO HARD xLitheon: EARLY xLitheon: FUCK OFF xLitheon: ggezpz xLitheon: so fucking ez

xLitheon: YOU DIOIT xLitheon: IDIOTS xLitheon: LEAVE xLitheon: OMFG xLitheon: GRAGAS xLitheon: YOU FUCKING IDIOT xLitheon: FUCK OFFF

BestSupportGold5/30/2017, 6:07:34 PM2 votes

People like him will never change. I wish this game was 18+ at least adults don't act like this. You're rage and ramblings don't help anyone on your team, or yourself. I bet you're the type of person to blame the team and not accept responsibility for your actions. You're the kid that chases for kills in unwarded areas and then complains when you get collapsed on, ignoring in game pings.

I'm glad you got banned.

BestSupportGold5/30/2017, 6:09:08 PM2 votes

He's probably a Yasuo main in League and a Hanzo main in Overwatch.

Colgate Gator5/30/2017, 3:08:41 PM1 votes

I skimmed over your sob story and then click the chat log and I'm met with

xLitheon: you fucking idiot xLitheon: ww xLitheon: mhm xLitheon: idiot xLitheon: piece of shit xLitheon: idiot xLitheon: gtfo xLitheon: fucking %%%got xLitheon: you got a gank xLitheon: fuck off

Yeah...Not even going to bother.

jpguy9025/29/2017, 10:50:21 PM1 votes

Hey there! Sorry to hear about your situation. I know it seems unfair but you can skip tiers of punishment by using homophobic slurs, which you did unfortunately. That combined with your history of toxic behavior has left you with a permaban.

I understand you went a couple months without having a game like these, but Riot judges you on a per game basis as opposed to just time passed. It was a significant number of non toxic games you needed to play consecutively, in order to be considered reformed. I cant remember the exact number but with 3 chat restrictions you are probably looking at 100 games of non toxic behavior.

I frequent these boards quite a lot and I'm sorry to tell you I'm 99% sure you won't get your banned reduced. I've read countless threads similar to yours and I haven't seen it happen yet. Your best option is to take the lesson that you learned form this and start a new account.

Wish you the best of luck either way and hope things improve for ya!

EDIT: Ignore the downvotes, people on here are very judgmental. You shouldn't be downvoted just because you are asking a question.