Why can't we have the tribunal back?
Just curious, you don't get anymore false ban cases and you can catch more trolls and others dodging the system.
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and you can catch more trolls
Actually, not.
The tribunal was pretty slow. So slow, that it couldn't keep up with the number of cases coming in. By the time we shut it down, people were being penalized many months .. maybe more .. after the behavior.
Maybe by the time the player was penalized they are no longer exhibiting that behavior?
But certainly, the feedback loop is so long that reform from a penalty is highly unlikely because the individual won't remember the game.
There generally aren't that many false ban cases nowadays. The difference is so minuscule that it's insignificant.
Further, Tribunal wasn't used heavily for trolls, mainly for chat offenses.
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What I miss are the Tribunal Case Series that got posted up on youtube.
Anybody else remember when this was a thing?
It was so insanely backlogged. Think on the order of months worth of backlogs. Which was why at the time, you did actually get a benefit to having multiple reports, because the more reports a player had, the more important it became to review their situation. Now, the IFS is actually able to review every single report. It's incredibly efficient, and while people say that it hands out "false bans," it really isn't. It's just punishing people for things that they should have been punished for all along. The Tribunal simply couldn't keep up with it in the first place.
Two major problems were not enough people using it making punishments slow to a crawl and then there were people who only spammed punished
I was going to post a lengthy comment but I feel like it's best saved for another time.
The TL;DR of it was bring back tribunals for permaban appeals. Appeal approval includes a declaration of understanding that they cannot appeal again and will be permabanned without hesitation if it happens once more. Appeal denial means they stay permabanned and the case is dismissed.
- Someone who has fucked up badly once gets immediate 2 week suspension. They "reform" for ~100 games but real life happens, bad day etc and teammates are being excessively rude. They have an outburst and immediately realise the situation. Doesn't matter, permabanned.
- Someone who has constantly harrassed teammates, thrown abuse, intentionally fed and been passive aggressive for 100 games consistently with multiple previous punishments get permabanned.
These cases are different and should not both be treated equally. #1 Example could easily be voted YES for a last chance, whereas #2 would obviously be voted NO.
Now, unless there are an extreme amount of permaban cases (which I'd hope there aren't) I find it impossible for the tribunal to be backlogged here.
This is just an idea, I claim no experience in this subject but I do feel like there are cases of permabans which could definitely be sorted in a more appropriate manner than being shot down with a copy paste message from Riot Support.