Got abused for 45 mins straight, and I get a chat ban???????

A Yordles Life··1 votes·517 views

DISCLAIMER: WHILE MY EXPRESSION HERE MAY SEEM ANGRY AND VOLATILE, IF YOU READ THE CHAT LOG I POSTED BELOW YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS ALMOST ZERO HOSTILITY AND IN FACT NO DIRECT ASSAULT ON ANY OTHER PLAYER. THE ANGER IN THIS POST IS A RESULT OF RIOTS UNJUSTIFIED ACTIONS AND OVERALL FAILURE TO ACT PROPERLY IN THIS SITUATION.

Honestly fuck whoever decides this shit. I got incessantly verbally assaulted for 45 mins straight because I was trying to learn a champion in a role they aren't the best at. Said nothing offensive in return other than a blanket remark about how this fucking community is just getting worse... and I get a 10 game chat restriction and no prompt saying I got any of the 3 assholes who were trashing me all game long any sort of punishment. Fuck this shit man.. I may sound like a dick now, but how the fuck would you feel? These fucking punk ass kids think they can just harrass you all game and get away with it? Pieces of garbage all.

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Modi5 votes

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Honestly fuck whoever decides this shit. I got incessantly verbally assaulted for 45 mins straight because I was trying to learn a champion in a role they aren't the best at. Said nothing offensive in return other than a blanket remark about how this fucking community is just getting worse... and I get a 10 game chat restriction and no prompt saying I got any of the 3 assholes who were trashing me all game long any sort of punishment. Fuck this shit man.. I may sound like a dick now, but how the fuck would you feel? These fucking punk ass kids think they can just harrass you all game and get away with it? Pieces of garbage all.

If your message here is anything like how you replied to them, then yes, your punishment was justified. If they said the things that you say they did, then, yes, they should be punished as well. "I was defending myself" and "they started it" didn't fly in kindergarten, nor does it work here.

A Yordles Life1 votes

Nah man, the rage in my comment here is a result of an unjustified punishment on me for being harrassed by other players who themselves were not punished. Keep defending the assailants.. Really love what this community has become..

Modi2 votes

Post the unedited chat logs then.

A Yordles Life1 votes

When I log into league this is what I see:
Game 1 A Yordles Life: oh man A Yordles Life: raka top is boned A Yordles Life: the joys of blind pick A Yordles Life: smiteless leash please A Yordles Life: man they ruined rumble :( A Yordles Life: ffs A Yordles Life: those dumbl plants A Yordles Life: forced me to smite A Yordles Life: .... A Yordles Life: you would have stolen if i didnt A Yordles Life: now i gotta wait 50 secs... A Yordles Life: ping all you want A Yordles Life: i cant do much from the jungle with rumble A Yordles Life: i cant A Yordles Life: idk how to gank with rumble A Yordles Life: i only know how to abuse top lane with him A Yordles Life: this dude is so angry and for what? A Yordles Life: i didnt ping i was going anywhere lol A Yordles Life: dude stfu A Yordles Life: you felt the need to go top A Yordles Life: i never cry for ganks when i top A Yordles Life: cuz i know what im doing up there A Yordles Life: and rumble is the only yordle i have left to get to at least m5 A Yordles Life: all the others are maxed A Yordles Life: no thanks? A Yordles Life: i have to say since the last update to rumble, i thilnk hes just crap now A Yordles Life: yea listen to the way they talk to me A Yordles Life: and they expect me to be a teammate A Yordles Life: there isnt one yordle that is even remotely viable in the jungle anymore A Yordles Life: all i play for the last 4 years is yordles A Yordles Life: and rumble is the only one i have left to get to at least m5 so until hes done A Yordles Life: thats all i can play A Yordles Life: thank raka A Yordles Life: no need to starcall that gromp on me A Yordles Life: have fun A Yordles Life: i dont ever like to jungle A Yordles Life: i avoid it like the plague A Yordles Life: b/c no yordles work in the jungle A Yordles Life: i was forced here A Yordles Life: it was either that A Yordles Life: or argue with kids in lobby A Yordles Life: ? A Yordles Life: i went to get a drink man A Yordles Life: quit crying A Yordles Life: the afk warning didnt even pop up A Yordles Life: blame your loss on someone else please A Yordles Life: youve all been harrassing me all game long A Yordles Life: honestly you could all get banned A Yordles Life: one more hit A Yordles Life: so close A Yordles Life: rofl i didnt say or do anything A Yordles Life: lets see A Yordles Life: i was abused nonstop for 35 mins A Yordles Life: why would i want to try? A Yordles Life: sigh A Yordles Life: w/e A Yordles Life: rude fucking community is just getting worse A Yordles Life: lol A Yordles Life: w/e man A Yordles Life: get bent with your "pc" insults so you can try to avoid a ban A Yordles Life: enjoy your break from league A Yordles Life: 169 cs as an adc A Yordles Life: and you have the nerve to say anything to me A Yordles Life: go ahead i did nothing wrong

It only shows what I said conveniently and not the abusive shit the others were saying so clearly when they submitted their reports they just ommited all the homophobic and hateful shit they were saying to me... How convenient eh?

The Cream Reaper1 votes

A Yordles Life: enjoy your break from league

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

A Yordles Life1 votes

So as you can see from these logs, there is nothing offensive at all. And if you consider what they were saying to me was literal hate speech... Homophobic remarks like you wouldn't believe... I wish I had taken screenshots or something but I am able to let what people say go, because I'm not a baby... I am only outraged by the fact that I was punished and should not have been. And they received no punishment for hate speech... Great job Riot.. Keep up the fantastic work..............

Modi2 votes

It only shows what I said conveniently and not the abusive shit the others were saying

The other players' chats do not matter when it comes to what you said. That is why they do not show the other players' chats. Your chat is fully under your control, so you are fully responsible for what is said.


Toward the end, your chat got pretty dicey. Unfortunately, it looks justly punished. League is not a venue to "defend yourself" or anything like that.

The best advice I can give you is to not respond to the abuse. The mute button, while not a permanent solution, it will temporarily relieve the situation (you no longer see their chat). After that, you report them at the end of the game. There is no need to get involved in a flame war.

Mute, report, move on.

BLACK REALM GOD2 votes

this was my follow up statement.

that's great, but you have to keep it within the realm of rational. once you've broken out into the realm of irrational then your argument becomes meaningless.

homophobia is exactly what it says. a phobia. bashing someone for having a genuine phobia is no more correct than harassing someone for their preference in their partner's gender. or ridiculing someone because they have a fear of enclosed environments.

when it comes to being gay you're entitled to be gay just as openly as non-gay people are entitled to be non-gay and bi's can be bi. that means in private where it's unconditional with the exception of a few abuse regulations and such. In public spaces you can only go so far with openly expressing your relations and it's all determined by the local government. if all 3 are equal then there's no problem. if any one of the 3 gets to do something the others dont then that's a problem when talking about equality. equality doesnt mean unrestrained. it means equal.

while it's not fair to harass others for being homosexual it's also not fair to force your homosexuality onto others in unrelated situations. that's what it means to respect each other's boundaries. sexuality is something that by nature is meant to be private. when you find that you're attracted to someone then tell them and if they react in a negative way then stop expressing those private feelings. sexual harassment is by definition exactly that. we commonly think of sexual harassment as physical actions or suggestive jokes, but it's not limited to just that and women aren't the only victims.

indecent communications in a non-private setting is often times looked down upon. (this goes out to you roleplayers who constantly talk in all-chat about your attractions to specific champions.) there are rules specifically targeting you so you should stop or at least do it in private messages with just your friends who aren't going to get offended. private verbals are meant to be used for private feelings.

same thing as bashing someone for having gender-identity disorder. a lot of people misunderstand what it means to want to be a different gender. changing your gender is like putting on makeup or a fancy new outfit in hopes that people will like you more and treat you the way you want to be treated. you can do it and you dont deserved to be ridiculed for it, but that doesnt mean it will solve your problems. it may help you feel confident, but the thing that many psychologists and psychiatrists aren't expressing because they're afraid of the backlash is that ultimately changing your identity will NOT help you feel better about yourself in the long run. feeling good about yourself requires concrete confidence and a mental state that cannot be obtained by refusing one's own identity. in fact refusing one's own identity in order to change how society views them is often related to even more social and mental disorders. anxiety and depression among the top offenders. if you already have those (most do) then they'll only get worse.

the main reason why people are separated by gender is due to the sexual attraction causing issues. in order to promote productivity and limit those issues things like separate bathrooms, clothing, and such was developed. those developments start to fall apart when introducing the idea of homosexuality and transgender. sexual attraction can cause fights over jealousy, rape can happen, and if people are sexually active then they're not as productive when it comes to manual or mental labor. ~10% of adult rape victims are male. so it's not like it doesnt happen. there are certain factors to it that make women easier targets than men such as not having a natural defense and the disparity in upper body muscle mass, but that doesnt detract from the fact that it does happen.

I hope this long and detailed post helps you understand that it's not as black and white of an issue as it may seem. straight up harassment is going to be obviously punished. crying wolf on the other hand may get someone punished once or twice, but as a whole the argument is going to end up weaker as those in charge will eventually grow tired of the issue being blown out of proportion. sadly many real world issues have become victims of wolf-criers trying to take miles for inches and twist ideas to fit their own personal motives.

:tldr - read the post. discussing sexuality openly in public chat during a league match is inappropriate in the first place. two wrongs don't make a right. equality is not unlimited freedom. sexuality is a private matter. people with phobias dont deserve ridicule or hate. surgically altering your body wont improve your state of mind. make sure you understand sexual harassment fully.

i think that's everything i wanted to discuss from the post before.

as far as this topic goes i have 2 things to say. 1 is that your chat logs show that you at no point muted your aggressor. instead you continued the argument which completely derailed your remaining teams ability to communicate with you effectively. if this was a 4v1 argument then you should have muted them all and focused on your own game making an effort to further the teams chances for victory. as soon as someone makes an offensive comment towards you you have a couple of options that will prevent you from getting into trouble. 1 is you can ignore it and then report them after the game. 2 is you can mute them and report them after the game. 3 is you can inform them that what they said was offensive or against the TOS/EULA IN A FRIENDLY AND INFORMATIVE MANNER and then continue to play with your chat open in hopes that the situation resolves itself. if it doesnt then refer to options 1 or 2. 2 is your safest bet as it will allow you to stealth report and avoid any sort of blowback. it's not your job to correct the behaviors of others. it is not your job to defend yourself or your viewpoint. your job is to help your team win during a league match. if at any point you sacrifice or hinder your ability to help your team win you're likely to be punished. in your chats you 1. argue your point of view. 2. go afk. 3. insult you teammates. it doesnt have to be extremely bad to get a chat ban. chat bans are essentially slaps on the wrist. something as simple as calling your allies "garbage" "noob" etc. can get you a chat ban if you're doing it enough.

avoid these things and you will start to improve your behavior.

A Yordles Life1 votes

I muted 1 of the 3 aggressors, the most volatile, the other 2 guys were just kinda toolbags. I do see your point though, it's just sad the people who ARE truly aggro are still able to access the game.. Disheartening.

CreampEye1 votes

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A Yordles Life1 votes

I hate discord.. It bugs my PC

HalcyonDweller10 votes

Dont mind cream. They are pretending to run an 'operation' but all their evidence is photoshopped and staged. They're just desperately crying for attention by claiming credit for others' wrongdoings. They aren't actually in charge of anything.

A Yordles Life1 votes

Honestly, I should be able to sue Riot Games for issuing me a ban and not banning players using homophobic hate speech.. What Riot said with that action essntially is that they condone gay bashing.. This is just super wrong in every sense man... Seriously Riot make it right.

General Esdeath 1 votes

"I'm gonna sue for them banning me when I agreed to ToS!"

Good luck

A Yordles Life1 votes

Terms of service felt like a load of crap if you could see the disparity between the level of volatility between what I said and what the other 3 guys said. At the time seeing that they were not punished, only felt like Riot themselves violated their own EULA. It's fine. Those kids will get whats coming to them in the real world. And thats all I need.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Actually under Riot EULA they can do whatever they want. But how do you know they weren't punished?

Magical Player1 votes

Try it, go ahead and sue riot games. You'll not be the 1st to suggest such drastic action. Side note you can't sue them(its in their TOS) you can however hold a mediation or something and have a civil conversation in where you can get together with them and discuss what needs to be done (you pay your way to do it all and any fees if you lose)

A Yordles Life1 votes

UPDATE: I did receive a prompt that my report resulted in a punishment of another player.. I'm assuming it was one of the hate speechers.. While I do appreciate that action was taken there. I still really don't appreciate the fact that I was punished just for being victimized.

A Yordles Life1 votes

I like how Riot is now trying to save face. Good job guys.

SparklingLama1 votes

seems like a legit ban, not seeing much wrong than too MUCH typing and negative behavior. You COULD ignore them but you got no self control to do so.

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