I just wanna vent

TheDangerousTaco·1/27/2020, 9:46:42 PM·20 votes·12,890 views

I hate the players in this game. My least favorite aspect of this game has to be by far , the playerbase. Interactions with other players are hurtful, annoying, and demoralizing.

Every time in game, there is always someone trying to berate me. Either for the champion im playing, not seeing the play they were trying to make, or just overall harassing me over not following up with them.

The constant, ( ? ) question mark ping, being spammed over and over again, is just too much. I dislike confrontation. I used to be pushed around back in school, so now I have a complex towards harassment. its lead to some nasty fights. Where most people would casually escalate. I am trained to react negatively due to past fears that a fight will break out, so I immediately go into attack mode if I think I might be harmed in the slightest way.

I avoid talking all together in game. I keep chats off every since we were able to get the feature for it, but even in champ select, you get the same treatment. And when everyone is muted, the still find ways to spam ping you to death. Honeslty it makes you just wanna jump to the screen and punch them. I know this board isnt supposed to tolerate violence, but how do you deal with the constant negativity this game has towards each other. Even the boards feels like a battle ground, every opinion you give leads to a fight. Speaking your mind leads to confrontation. I honestly feel like people get away with this cause they never been in a fight before. Cause some of the stuff people say, just wouldn't be said in real life. Like how could you get away with some of the language used.

By far, my biggest gripe with this game, past the balancing issues, past the faulty matchmaking, past the constant removal of features. Is the player-base. Losses wouldn't feel so bad, if people weren't so mean about it. It feels like everyone in this game, just wants to fight you over the stupidest thing. And I dislike it

40 Comments

Quiet Dude1/27/2020, 10:00:28 PM10 votes

Something to keep in mind when you have these petty assholes in your game:

A lot of the people who are toxic in League are usually that way because they associate a lot of their personal identity with league. Doing bad in game? It hurts them personally because they confuse their performance in game with who they are as a person.

They say these things because they get frustrated and take it personally. You have to remember when you get these assholes: they are stupid little kids/manchildren who don't know who they are yet, they don't have a healthy way to vent their personal toxicity. And the root of the problem- they dont know who they actually are in life. It's sad.

So don't get offended by them or be frustrated with how they behave. Pity them. Honestly. Every topic I see in the player behavior boards where players justify their behavior or beg for a ban to be overturned, I pity them. Because at the end of the day, they are immature children or adults who are confused and haven't/unable to grow up.

Report them. Pity them. Those poor, poor stupid kids.

S Tier Waifu1/28/2020, 12:31:00 AM8 votes

But Riot told us it's less than 1% of the playerbase that's toxic

[sg-lux-2]

The Whamboozler1/28/2020, 1:14:20 AM4 votes

You can mute pings OP. One of the only ways to enjoy this game is to mute everyone and everything the moment you can. Even then, honestly... if people being jerks to you really gets to you (and I fully understand that, being a possessor or the nerd rage myself) maybe just... play a different game? This isn't a good game for people like us. This is a game full of guffawing brotards and insecure manchildren who will flame everyone while they're losing and who will act like insufferably arrogant twats when winning.

Almost everyone in this game resents the other players on their team by default... the same way people on MMO's always resent the one rando who gets matched with their group for a dungeon. It's baked into the game itself. Might be better to just play something more enjoyable and less stressful and gross.

Yin Yang Taoist1/27/2020, 10:01:20 PM4 votes

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Even the boards feels like a battle ground, every opinion you give leads to a fight. Speaking your mind leads to confrontation. I honestly feel like people get away with this cause they never been in a fight before. Cause some of the stuff people say, just wouldn't be said in real life. Like how could you get away with some of the language used.

By far, my biggest gripe with this game, past the balancing issues, past the faulty matchmaking, past the constant removal of features. Is the player-base. Losses wouldn't feel so bad, if people weren't so mean about it. It feels like everyone in this game, just wants to fight you over the stupidest thing. And I dislike it

You can mute pings as well, OP. I always mute everyone and everything once I get into the game. Also, I've been asking for post lobby / pre game lobby mutes aside from others for a while now. Lobby reports, when people simply type nonsense or say stuff and dodge to avoid punishment. Yeahhh! Probably not happening but anyway! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Zarcova1/28/2020, 1:12:23 PM2 votes

I can understand your dislike for what happens to you but at the same time, if it affects you that much, turn off the pings and chat if you cant handle it. If you keep it on, it's your own fault that you get upset in my opinion. People are going to flame you no matter what, its simply a guarantee in this game and if your feelings get easily hurt from someone spam pinging you then you likely should indeed just not have it turned on. The thing for me when it comes to toxicity is that it is entirely preventable by the people who are getting flamed given the tools that are at your disposal to disallow you from having to see what other players are saying about you. I dislike players who complain about such weak forms of toxicity when the truth is if you just did the simple things like muting you wouldn't have these issues and would remain tilt free. The only true type of toxic behaviour that should be bannable or give chat restrictions is if you say something very bad or if you int. More so on inting, as that's the one that actually effects the main game given that you can protect your mental via muting.

Knife88Edge1/27/2020, 10:39:24 PM2 votes

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I hate the players in this game. My least favorite aspect of this game has to be by far , the playerbase. Interactions with other players are hurtful, annoying, and demoralizing.

Every time in game, there is always someone trying to berate me. Either for the champion im playing, not seeing the play they were trying to make, or just overall harassing me over not following up with them.

The constant, ( ? ) question mark ping, being spammed over and over again, is just too much. I dislike confrontation. I used to be pushed around back in school, so now I have a complex towards harassment. its lead to some nasty fights. Where most people would casually escalate. I am trained to react negatively due to past fears that a fight will break out, so I immediately go into attack mode if I think I might be harmed in the slightest way.

I avoid talking all together in game. I keep chats off every since we were able to get the feature for it, but even in champ select, you get the same treatment. And when everyone is muted, the still find ways to spam ping you to death. Honeslty it makes you just wanna jump to the screen and punch them. I know this board isnt supposed to tolerate violence, but how do you deal with the constant negativity this game has towards each other. Even the boards feels like a battle ground, every opinion you give leads to a fight. Speaking your mind leads to confrontation. I honestly feel like people get away with this cause they never been in a fight before. Cause some of the stuff people say, just wouldn't be said in real life. Like how could you get away with some of the language used.

By far, my biggest gripe with this game, past the balancing issues, past the faulty matchmaking, past the constant removal of features. Is the player-base. Losses wouldn't feel so bad, if people weren't so mean about it. It feels like everyone in this game, just wants to fight you over the stupidest thing. And I dislike it

I feel ya. That's why i just mute everything when i see signs of toxicity and report that person after game. Cut them off your comms before you get personally invested as well.

Minimac20001/28/2020, 7:57:17 AM2 votes

Rip, yeah, can't say rip enough. Honestly, I kinda enjoy the toxicity of the playerbase, like nothing makes me more happy than getting bm'ed and bm'ing back in this game, bc even if the enemy means it and even if both teams are swearing up a storm, it's all just a game and a meme to me

when your1/28/2020, 5:58:18 PM2 votes

There are so many options you can walk towards and try to work with: muting, blocking, and reporting, but none of this brings any sort of satisfaction because the general attitude of the players is still harsh. There are two options:-

1- Find/create a group of people that you would enjoy playing with. This will help with your friends helping you out or just having fun and making this tragic experience of a game more fun and indulging. 2- Talk to a friend/chat with them while playing league alone. This is no judgement or anything at all, but if you have no friends to talk to while playing this game or friends that don't understand what league is; that is perfectly fine. You should find someone that will understand the behavior of this game and you can talk about it to vent.

The only way to get through without getting triggered by your past experiences because of violent confrontations is to talk to somebody even if they have no idea what you're talking about or to play with friends, even one person can make a difference. The toxic behavior of the people in this game is not your fault, but you cannot fix it. Also, just right now I did realize you might already do what I just mentioned, so if you do then I'd say play the champion that you find the most fun or want to learn and find your happy place. Mute the pings/chat (try finding peace within the fact that these people are the people you see everyday that cannot have fun unless fun only means winning which kinda sucks) and during champ select/post-lobby - cover up the chat with something and do the things that make you happy so either listening to your preferred music or look at other stuff.

My husband is an adorable teddy bear that has never been toxic in his life and he is a Yasuo player. He is amazing at what the does and so is his attitude. He will feel guilty for saying anything barely rude for days. The way he combats it is by saying, "i don't ever want to drop at the lowest of levels like these people". He's not egotistical or anything, but his point is that these people ruin the game for the rest. You don't have to do that, you can stick to yourself and keep yourself high because you are better.

Ginger9761/28/2020, 7:24:49 PM2 votes

So what I would say is that if the game really makes you feel this way, even after you mute everyone, this is a YOU problem. If your mental state is in such a place that you get tilted by things like people pinging you......That's you. The reason why I say that is because that mindset indicates bigger issues that you may have around confrontation and conflict resolution that probably manifests itself in real life. So the point is that I'm not saying that you deserve for people to act in such a way towards you. I'm saying that if it affects you in the way that you said it does, it speaks to bigger issues about your mental health that you should address IRL.

Ph03n1xb1rd1/28/2020, 1:02:02 PM1 votes

Stick a sticky not to the screen where the chat is, if you get tilted by some words.

Of course there is no point to shittalk in chat select but people will do it. If you get triggered by that(you shouldn't), just use the sticky not trick.

Vlada Cut1/28/2020, 12:24:33 AM1 votes

Agree.

I wanna throw Zigg's E but leggos at the community

Vonyalo1/28/2020, 1:17:43 PM1 votes

Play with bots then

Chromatic Eagle1/28/2020, 2:36:26 PM1 votes

Are you playing normals or ranked? Normals aren’t without toxic people, but it’s probably better than ranked. You can also play aram or special game modes.

Lùmen2/5/2020, 7:38:02 PM1 votes

Don't worry, all those toxic players are going to be perma banned soon. jk every single one of them probably has 5+ accounts in stock and even if all of them get banned, they'll make more and continue..

Rexigor2/8/2020, 6:47:51 AM1 votes

mute feature, you can't change people you can only control how you respond to it

KalokasIsMyDaddy1/28/2020, 8:44:53 PM1 votes

This is what happens when the game is built around making you toxic. This is coming who jumped straight to a 14 day ban from toxicity (no chat restrictions).

This game is just built around driving you to your absolute edge. I've been playing this game for 7 years. For the rest 3-4, I was alright. Then the entire game got fucked and I eventually got banned. Now I just forcefully silence myself while 2 of my teammates are afk/inting. You should have seen the game (if you haven't already) around 5-6 years ago. It was probably one of the best communities I've ever seen. I had my absolute fill of memes and jokes being spammed with the occasional "gg ez" that I would actually look forward to. Now I'm just sick of the toxicity in the game.

However, I believe players are only partially responsible for the toxicity in this game. Riot does nothing to help people reform. They offer no rewards or endorsement to actually be friendly in this game. They only ban players when they eventually get sick of this fucking mess of a game and start flaming. But this isn't the actual root of the problem, which is unfun gameplay and sometimes unbalanced matchmaking. They don't stop toxic players from, well, being toxic and they don't try to make players sportsmanlike again. This is what you should expect when the company itself doesn't care about the player experience. You should take this game as an experiment that lasted 10 years. That's what League is right now. An experiment on what happens when the company stops giving 2 fucks about their game.

Adjudicatario1/29/2020, 11:04:54 AM1 votes

Player base just reflects the parameters of the game.

When Tencent got closer to LoL they probably took some of their philosophy into the mix. I am an ex Clash Royale player and I feel the curve of the game is closely related:

1.- At launch you have a game with multiple approaches available. Super duper turtle to very aggressive, both are viable. Knowledge of the game is also greatly rewarded.

2.- The pro scene gets in the mix and a lot of interactions are dumbed down. Any advantage out of knowledge is minimal because it would create an imbalance in the pros leagues. Tend to disagree, you just could work with a 25000 items/10000 runes database but other issues would arise. At least they didn't dumb it down completely (to the extent of China and viewers influence let's say over NBA basketball), you still need to know a thousand things, even when a good share of that knowledge is mostly despicable (i.e. champions or terrain interactions, animation cancels).

3.- The only thing left is a "windows" game. You have a window of opportunity before/during/after a combo. Any intent to avoid windows is uninteractive and gets the nerf hammer. Obviously games are shorter and probably defined by a couple windows, the game gets a lot more naive and patience runs thin all across the board. Also windows get shortened through CDR or the possibility to drop the load in a matter of a second.

Yeah, macro wins and all that jazz but guys who call themselves "terrible micro, terrible mechanics" still know what's going on in their matchup and might take game decisions on a less than a second basis. Terrible mechanics buffer Q flash style, you know.

4.- Just as CR LoL punish specialists through metas. Champions don't get minimally worse, some get close to unplayable status. OTPs try harder and then skill floor/cap discrepancy gets laughably high.

In the end you reap what you sow. Aftershock is OP but Electrocute is fine and snowball is talent. Well, welcome to your 5 minutes span attention teammates and your 0/2 legit players being reported for inting. Of course a death in less than 3 seconds on your several first ranked games would probably deter any player to keep staring at the game.

It is the same with Clash Royale. It went from a choose your strategy, grow a form to your plan and the better plan with a tad of mechanics wins to "find a window, execute, profit" game. Intelligence/patience/interpretation is not at the core, well you get what you promoted.

Oh, also, for the "pro scene" viewers consideration. Yeah, pro games are kind of watchable because coordinated movement is nice. But just as sports or any other game when you can't dissect a philosophy in a team configuration/strategy is all moot. Yay, another meta champion doing meta thingies and this player is also known because his bread and butter is....the same as everybody else.

It is the game, not the players. It is a lot less meant for giving the player any freedom at all than it seems yet many are still around waiting for a change of the guard towards a more classic approach (1000 hours of theorycrafting would make you 0% better than a guy copying something from the web while clicking on the practice tool makes you infinitely better and this iteration shows on who is going to be your customer). The not so delusional just adapt or look elsewhere so you have arcade players and classic strategy players with a cynic- I could care more but what's the point- approach to the game.

Even guys who make content streams to learn the game don't play with 0/12 teammates and most of the time are able to turn the tides of the battle....through sheer mechanics. Yeah, tell me about macro when you just dueled and won twice. Cool story. Most of those "learning materials" are just relevant to the extent of the given situation which is just lingo for "skill based". Player A plays terrible, streamer calls the bad play, Player A gets double kill through sheer outplay, streamer eats crow instead of protesting the state of the game, in this case free of jail card mechanics. Nonsense.

It is hard to balance such big titles but they take a very controversial road towards flashy and sleight of hand game play and there are consequences. A good shot is a good shot and a bad shot is a bad shot; when any make is a good shot what you have is a bad game.

FeedKaylePlease2/1/2020, 6:27:02 PM1 votes

Just /mute all. Literally like playing a different game. Bonus points if you tell everyone you're muting all. This causes players to spaz the fuck out and go right over the edge. Just knowing you don't care about them wounds them more deeply that being "toxic" ever could.

I had this one guy the other day try to start shit. I didn't even bother to acknowledged whatever nonsense point he was trying to make. I instantly muted the team after announcing it. This guy was so unbelievably pissed that I won't give him an ear to abuse me that he actually added me after the game to spew his venom. To rub salt in the wound I accepted and pretended that I didn't know who he was. This is the best way to piss of shitheads in SoloQ and you preserve your sanity.

General Esdeath 1/28/2020, 1:06:35 AM1 votes

Just post bear facts in the chat, works for me

Crescent Dusk2/5/2020, 6:24:39 AM1 votes

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I hate the players in this game. My least favorite aspect of this game has to be by far , the playerbase. Interactions with other players are hurtful, annoying, and demoralizing.

Every time in game, there is always someone trying to berate me. Either for the champion im playing, not seeing the play they were trying to make, or just overall harassing me over not following up with them.

The constant, ( ? ) question mark ping, being spammed over and over again, is just too much. I dislike confrontation. I used to be pushed around back in school, so now I have a complex towards harassment. its lead to some nasty fights. Where most people would casually escalate. I am trained to react negatively due to past fears that a fight will break out, so I immediately go into attack mode if I think I might be harmed in the slightest way.

I avoid talking all together in game. I keep chats off every since we were able to get the feature for it, but even in champ select, you get the same treatment. And when everyone is muted, the still find ways to spam ping you to death. Honeslty it makes you just wanna jump to the screen and punch them. I know this board isnt supposed to tolerate violence, but how do you deal with the constant negativity this game has towards each other. Even the boards feels like a battle ground, every opinion you give leads to a fight. Speaking your mind leads to confrontation. I honestly feel like people get away with this cause they never been in a fight before. Cause some of the stuff people say, just wouldn't be said in real life. Like how could you get away with some of the language used.

By far, my biggest gripe with this game, past the balancing issues, past the faulty matchmaking, past the constant removal of features. Is the player-base. Losses wouldn't feel so bad, if people weren't so mean about it. It feels like everyone in this game, just wants to fight you over the stupidest thing. And I dislike it

This is a team game.

You don't want to play as a team, so do everyone else a favor and stop playing this game when there are single player games where you can't ruin matches for other people just because you want to tunnel vision in lane and don't care about your teammates.

Bijeesny1/28/2020, 12:59:23 PM1 votes

Hearth-breaking. If I didnt know this is attention-seeking post i would prolly cry.