At what point does being bad become inting

NSxProdigy16··1 votes·1,125 views

I recently played a game with a maokai support that went 0/15/15. He was in a trio with the bot laner and the jungler, and they claimed that he was just really bad. I want to know at what point does being bad and dying an absolute crap load of times become inting.

Also its understandable that different roles have different standards so its not fair to just look at deaths, as its more (socially - solo q wise) acceptable to die as a support than it is as say a solo lane, or for a mid laner to trade kills and sometimes end up with a high number of deaths but also a high number of kills.

Now mind you i know that everyone has bad games and sometimes its hard to distinguish, but is there a line in the sand that you (riot) follows when it comes to deciding whether someone is inting or not? Because sometimes it feels like these kind of players, while they may say theyre "bad" just dont care about the game and dont care if they ruin the game for their team.

Im not trying to rant, or vent frustration or anything just curious as to how it is judged.

11 Comments

Deep Terror Nami15 votes

When it's intentional.

NSxProdigy161 votes

i cant tell if youre making a joke or if youre missing the point, but either way this isnt helpful in the least to my question

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

Unfortunately, that is the actual answer. Its what makes punishments for feeding very rare, as only in obvious cases can it be viewed as intentional.

Deep Terror Nami10 votes

There's not much to discuss. Intentional feeding is defined by the malicious intent, not the number of deaths. Dying a lot because you are bad is never intentional feeding (inting). The difference is clear, just not easy to prove in some cases.

Ethan Allen1 votes

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i cant tell if youre making a joke or if youre missing the point, but either way this isnt helpful in the least to my question

I can't tell if you're making a joke or just ignorant

ModUlanopo4 votes

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i cant tell if youre making a joke or if youre missing the point, but either way this isnt helpful in the least to my question

Actually, I think you have it backwards. The word "intentional" is right there in the term. Feeding is intentional when it's a conscious, deliberate choice.

Playing poorly, getting outplayed, making crappy choices - these things might make you a bad player, but they aren't intentional feeding.

My Sea Cow1 votes

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Actually, I think you have it backwards. The word "intentional" is right there in the term. Feeding is intentional when it's a conscious, deliberate choice.

Playing poorly, getting outplayed, making crappy choices - these things might make you a bad player, but they aren't intentional feeding.

Ulanopo has it right.... Inting, would be a Tyler1 clicking the base of the enemy team and walking down mid and not doing anything but walking down mid. Or Purposely flashing into 3 people with no one else to back them up and just standing there. (exp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8HO0OGOYMA )

Making poor plays and having that result in dying isn't necessarily inting... neither is getting outplayed even if trying it multiple times...especially in lower elo it happens more often then not sadly.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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When it's intentional.

You save me so much time, Deep Terror Nami. Even when it's just three words, and I type more TELLING you that you saved me time. Literally came here to write this EXACT comment. :P

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}I recently played a game with a maokai support that went 0/15/15. He was in a trio with the bot laner and the jungler, and they claimed that he was just really bad. I want to know at what point does being bad and dying an absolute crap load of times become inting.

To expand a bit on what Deep Terror Nami posted -- being awful at League isn't a reportable offense. If I'm legitimately bad enough that my basic gameplay involves me dying to a Darius within 20 seconds of entering lane, then that REALLY sucks for my team...but it isn't a reportable offense.

The only time that it becomes a violation is if I'm doing so intentionally: if my goal is to troll my team and ruin their chances of winning by feeding the enemy kills ON PURPOSE. I can be as bad as I want so long as I'm still playing the game and ultimately TRYING to help my team, even if I fail. When I stop doing so and start willingly and knowingly helping the enemy is when it becomes a violation of the Summoner's Code. Note that this is still distinct from being told "don't fight him" and fighting him (and dying) anyway. The other players on my team can't control how I play -- it's a mistake on my part, but I'm allowed to make mistakes.

So sometimes it's difficult to tell, definitely. I tend to err on the side of assuming someone's just having a bad day unless it's obvious they're intentionally dying (often things like poor builds, running directly into tower with the enemy near full health, unwillingness to communicate, etc).

NSxProdigy161 votes

poor builds like building full AP, no sight stone(as support) and jumping in 1v5 every chance you see them group up and have a potential "engage"?

The problem is that sometimes even if you watch the game and you KNOW they're doing it intentionally there is no way to guarantee any action will be taken, especially if they're in a pre-made and their whole group just reports you back even though he/she/they are clearly in the wrong.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

It only takes a single report to flag a game. Don't worry about the premade: the system is pretty good at figuring out which reports are valid.

That said, there's no rules that a support CAN'T build straight AP and ignore Sightstone.

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