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i honestly dont know why being polite is so hard

Morgy Morgy··10 votes·1,043 views

like, can you not focus on yourself? take me for example. i went through 3 stages of behavior. 1st stage, I was toxic to any and everyone who fed, and quick to shift the blame to someone else whenever I was doing poorly. i thought being polite was super hard and I couldnt contain it due to my ADHD and such. 2nd stage, I was really chill and calm. Until a fed enemy affects me, either by killing me or ending the game. Then I flipped out. 3rd stage, I'm not toxic to anyone anymore. i try my best to help others learn the game and not come off as rude in the process. there's some games where I lose my chill and cuss in chat, but it's never directed towards a player. most commonly, it's towards a champ an enemy is playing, or my internet. nowadays, I've been taking responsibility for poor decisions and lost games when I know I was to blame. remember when I thought it was so hard to not rage? you guys should do the same. I've been having much more enjoyable games lately, and a lot of the games I've lost were lots of fun. in a season where everything is bound to piss you off, anything and everything that can keep you non-tilted is a big plus and never hurts.

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Solo Josh6 votes

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Fondling Gems1 votes

Well said my friend.

JayHog19923 votes

It goes back to one of the oldest issues in video game history. The human ego.

There's always that little feeling where you just want to destroy people online and prove you're better. To make you feel better about yourself.

When you don't get that, you start belittling others and try to FORCE that feeling.

What they forget is that on the other side, there's also a guy who either wants to be the best or just tries to play things calm.

So it's all down to how many smart people you can find that don't care about being the best, yours truly being one example.

No flash no life1 votes

People are polite irl so they can get things done.

Here, ppl have no intention to get things done. They're here for their delight and if winning the game means they have to hold their tongue back from expressing their frustration and let it pile up, then they'd rather let it all out and lose the game cuz at least they feel better that way.

Bandeera1 votes

For me it was the other way around. I started being toxic after i got to play ranked and saw which kind of personalities linger in the depths of bronze. AND BEHOLD: It was getting even worse the higher elo i got!!!!

franticFurball1 votes

I will tell you why its hard:

Because in this game, you are 100% at the mercy of your teammates, who, if they are worse than a person playing League with a NES controller, still cannot be argued with, criticised or even asked to stop trying to invade the enemy jungle as a shaco whos 4 levels behind, because according to our "protect overly sensitive peoples feelings - program" all these things are toxic.

Firu5 votes

They can be argued with, they can criticized, and they can be asked to stop trying to invade the jungle. Your post couldn't be more wrong.

For instance:

  • "I don't think we should have done dragon then." compared to "F_ you and your terrible calls".
  • "That build isn't going to work against their team." compared to "You're a moron, learn to play your champion."
  • "Stop invading the enemy jungle, you're underleveled." compared to "Worst f___ing jungler in NA, gg."

Which of these type of comments do you actually use in game? Which types of comments are actually toxic? Hint, the comments on the left won't get you banned. The comments on the right will eventually get you banned (even then, only if you consistent persist in using them). Both argue and criticize. Sure people can may try to report you for both but you will not be banned for the comments on the left.

I honestly don't get how people can't see that "not being toxic" doesn't mean you have to be flowery and artificial. It just means don't be toxic.

scazzman1 votes

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They can be argued with, they can criticized, and they can be asked to stop trying to invade the jungle. Your post couldn't be more wrong.

For instance:

  • "I don't think we should have done dragon then." compared to "F_ you and your terrible calls".

  • "That build isn't going to work against their team." compared to "You're a moron, learn to play your champion."

  • "Stop invading the enemy jungle, you're underleveled." compared to "Worst f___ing jungler in NA, gg."

Which of these type of comments do you actually use in game? Which types of comments are actually toxic? Hint, the comments on the left won't get you banned. The comments on the right will eventually get you banned (even then, only if you consistent persist in using them). Both argue and criticize. Sure people can may try to report you for both but you will not be banned for the comments on the left.

I honestly don't get how people can't see that "not being toxic" doesn't mean you have to be flowery and artificial. It just means don't be toxic.

however. the moment you say anything. evein if it's one of the ones on the left. they start passive aggressively trolling/flamebaiting you. which in turn leads to you moving towards the right

Firu3 votes

There is no reason it should. If they respond to your comments (if done in the tone of the left) with toxicity then that's their fault and you should report it. If their toxicity makes you respond with toxicity then that's your choice and your fault. No one in League can make you say anything.

You are allowed to feel angry and pissed and furious. Just don't act on it.

Meta Phyton1 votes

I've got some experience making effective chat sentences directed at my teammates. Should I share my experience and add to the discussion?

Firu1 votes

Of course! More conversation is usually better than less in my experience.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I've got some experience making effective chat sentences directed at my teammates. Should I share my experience and add to the discussion?

Nah. Lol <3

franticFurball1 votes

Which types of comments are actually toxic?

Basically, any form of criticism, because its the PLAYERS who define toxicity with their report-behaviour. Jokes can be seen as toxic, asking someone not to invade can be "unwanted advice" (google "unwanted advice league toxic", you will be amazed how many people would report for it).

All that being said: I don't really care that much any way nowadays...because I quit league for good and have a ton of fun in Overwatch. Btw.: There is no such system in sight there, and wonder wonder wonder: The community works.

Firu1 votes

League has been around for 7 years and has a massive player base. Overwatch just came out and had a fraction of the player base. One game is free to play and the other is not.

Please compare apples to apples. Have fun in Overwatch though but don't fault me for believing you'll be back in league eventually.

franticFurball1 votes

Its very revealing how you try to convince yourself that I will :-)

But trust me my friend, I have experience in giving up games after long term engagements with them, and League would not be the most severe case, not even close...I was playing World of Warcraft almost daily for 10 years before I decided to quit...haven't touched it since then.

So excuse me if I have to dispell an assumption here, but no, I will not come back, unless this game undergoes tremendous changes (Reinstate soloQ, complete overhaul of the report system). As of this moment there is nothing that convinces me that will happen.

As for overwatch:

  • Game just came out, true. Behind the game is Blizzard, one of the biggest and most reliable players in the gaming market with tremendous ressources. So excuse me, but the fact that OW is new, doesn't have me worried.

  • The fact that OW is not F2P is an advantage in my book. I have more than enough disposable income, and if it keeps the immature crowd out of it, then so much the better.

Firu1 votes

Read the Blizzard forums. People have and still complain about WoW, SC2, and Heroes of the Storm (all games I've also played) with the same intensity as as here. Don't think that Blizzard is the one gaming company immune to this.

franticFurball1 votes

Did I make such a claim? No.

So I don't see what this statement could possibly add to this discussion, other than serving as a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

Firu1 votes

You strongly implied it when you constantly praised Blizzard and called one of the biggest and most reliable gaming companies with tremendous resources.

Should I link a definition from Wikipedia about implying to clarify?

Don't worry about replying. I have the feeling you don't really want a conversation. Enjoy Overwatch.

franticFurball1 votes

Don't worry about replying. I have the feeling you don't really want a conversation. Enjoy Overwatch.

Unfortunately, whether or not you think I should reply, is completely irrelevant to me ^^

Should I link the definition of "constantly"? :D Because how one post constitutes constantly...well, I have no idea.

I also see no connection between "Saying a company is good" and "That company has never been criticized".

Good bye :D

Dominick Destine1 votes

Go frustrate yourself. That's why.

No but seriously, the toxicity levels in LoL are the lowest they've ever been. What's the problem? the game is in great shape.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

Said no1 ever.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Except everyone with a functioning brain.

Lydia in Doorway1 votes

I think sometimes weaker players need to acknowledge their ability (or lack of) sometimes. That can help avoid some rudeness. I was in a game recently where for some reason, I started off horribly. (it was a bot game, but still, nobody wants to lose to bots) I died like 4 times in a row, and our Yi was really carrying the team. I apologized in chat for my feeding and promised it was out of the norm. Nobody complained and Yi played another match with me and I redeemed myself. That's just a recent example. I've had other players give me tips in the past as well. I know I'm not a skilled player, so I generally stick to bots where I won't ruin others' game. I can't remember a time where someone was nasty to me in chat.

Just saying maybe a "little" of the responsibility rests on the less skilled players.

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