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Cleanse Ghost

SonicAF·10/1/2018, 1:11:22 PM·1 votes·2,852 views

I am a platinum player. I am theoretically capable of reaching diamond, if I put enough time and effort.

At any point of my life I can level a smurf. After I play my placement matches it is going to end up in silver, even if I try my hardest. Silver 5 if I don't get lucky.

In that silver, up to the lower gold, I can reliably, with positive winrate(especially if I don't get griefers), carry with adc Blitzcrank or cleanse-ghost adc Soraka. As an artificial handicap upon myself. And when I say adc, I mean it - IE,zeal items, lifesteal.

Smurfs will fucking annihilate me, but if I don't lane against one, I am gonna be fine. Theoretically, I could get this challenge up to platinum, as I did with my Teemo account.

So we end up with a tricky situation - a player, who handicaps himself - for fun, for personal challenge/improvement, for the rule of cool or stream value. He doesn't grief, but obviously doesn't use everything he can to win.

And here is a poll and a discussion.

26 Comments

R107 Games10/1/2018, 1:23:30 PM2 votes

I don't think it should be bannable as long as your still trying to win. But i don't recommend doing it in ranked,your teammates want to climb to

k3rr3k10/1/2018, 5:22:42 PM2 votes

There are certain combinations of summoner spells that are objectively bad. When you take them knowing this and cause the rest of your team to struggle you should be willing to accept the consequences of your actions. These consequences I believe should be the punishments for feeding or griefing. There's a difference between playing off meta and going ghost cleanse jungle Soraka.

If you want more of a challenge, win and reach higher ranks.

Subdue10/1/2018, 5:36:05 PM2 votes

I won't comment as to whether or not it's bannable, as it's an edge case that would likely trigger Riot review.

That said, I don't think it should be bannable, if you're doing it on a previously unrated smurf account. An unrated smurf account has not yet had its MMR determined, which means if you always playing with this handicap, your MMR will accurately reflect your ability given the self imposed handicap, and teams will be balanced as a result.

However, if you were to do this on your main account knowing full well that you'll be handicapping your team, I think it should be bannable. In this scenario, your MMR has been determined by your performance playing at your best, and as such, you playing otherwise is intentionally handicapping your team.

Both are edge cases, and I lean one way on one, the other on the other.

mlm olo mlm10/1/2018, 5:45:09 PM1 votes

I wouldn't ban you from the game. I would move you into "non-competitive mode".

Ideally, team environment calls for open mindedness with your picks. Think, "What pick will help my team?". Instead of, "What pick do I want?".

So, I'd say you aren't being a good team mate. Not worth player ban. Needs something to discourage you though.

Vreivai10/2/2018, 12:47:00 AM1 votes

"Intentionally ruining the game for other players with in game actions such as griefing, feeding, or purposely playing in a way to make it harder for the rest of the team." is how the rule reads.

I'd say the last part applies to this. I'm not sure if it would actually be acted on, though, unless you showed that you clearly knew you were handicapping yourself by playing in this way.

zoliking10/3/2018, 4:01:40 PM1 votes

Riot is very clear that they are fine with this. In a decent world it should absolutely be bannable and be banned.

Pika Fox10/3/2018, 4:02:25 PM1 votes

I fail to see how just picking cleanse ghost is bad or trolling. I always run ghost over flash, and if the enemy has a comp that is built around locking someonr down as the main kill threat, cleanse over heal would be perfectly fine.

As long as you arent literally running it down asap, its fine.