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Why is reporting for AFK even necessary, can't it be automatic?

Taioron·5/9/2016, 5:44:17 PM·24 votes·3,313 views

Just finished a match where my team was doing really well, and we were headed for a solid victory. Then, I notice our Brand is just sitting there inside our base. We still are doing well for being 4v5, but slowly and inevitably, we are losing. The enemy team starts with the, also inevitable "EZ Ez game kids EZ EZ sifhlkfjwelkjfwe". I play ARAM almost exclusively. I know some people will probably give me a hard time for that, but it's what I enjoy, and I play League to enjoy it. A really high percent of ARAM matches end up having an AFK that solely determines the outcome.

I realize that stuff happens in real life, and we should be given flexibility for those circumstances so we aren't instantly banned. However, why should people even have to report someone for AFK and have it go through the tribunal, when the tribunal can't even see the person going AFK? The Tribunal literally is not equipped to judge on cases of AFK. I know there's a leaverbuster in the game, but it should be able to tell that someone has been moving their character randomly, but never actually attacking a champion or doing anything. The system in place currently is not working, the number of AFKers is proof of that. Improve the system already in place to automatically recognize these situations, broaden the umbrella of recognition. Please.

32 Comments

jpguy9025/9/2016, 6:07:28 PM12 votes

Ive played with people who go afk but move around in the fountain or buy things in shop, every few minutes, to avoid the automated leaverbuster system.

Sniper 05/9/2016, 10:30:49 PM4 votes

There are people who intentionally afk during a game. Then there are those that have emergencies and have to leave. The report is for those who intentionally leave and say so in chat.... "ohh this support is trash have fun losing. Afks" As long as an individual doesn't make a habit of afk'ing they're generally in the clear. Everyone has shit going on outside of the game.

Vanic9985/9/2016, 9:35:37 PM3 votes

Reporting for afk shouldn't be automatic because there's a difference between someone leaving for a genuine reason and for an evil reason. I once played a game where one of the enemy disconnected and I asked if we should report him and the enemy team said no because he left because he was a soldier and was called to duty so I didn't report him. It's meant to give more chances for those who afk for a genuine reason.

Brimley5/11/2016, 3:38:29 AM3 votes

I think what needs to happen is that the system needs to recognize the difference between an AFK that was intentional or not. People who quit after the adc dies to a lvl 3 gank need to be reported, obviously, but people who have a real reason and talk to their team shouldn't. I had a game a few weeks ago where we were just kinda trolling the other team because we were up so much, and one of our teammates said he needed to go and asked if we'd finish... we didn't want to, so we just told him to afk and not worry about it. We were up by 40 kills or something stupid like that, so it didn't matter. He didn't deserve a penalty (which I doubt he got, we didn't report him)

I know, as someone who has been plagued with leaverbuster this year, that sometimes the client is the real issue in someone going AFK. Especially those who just never connect to a game. I know I have frantically logged out, logged in, restarted my modem, whatever it took to try to get back in a game with no success. The system has punished me like I'm just maliciously fucking over my teammates though, which I think is pretty unfair.

KVbqbFsC8e5/9/2016, 8:23:55 PM3 votes

It is automatic, and it does do its job. If you just move around randomly, Leaverbuster will still tag you as being AFK. The problem is that the punishment never escalates past a 20 min low priority que for 5 games at a time. You seeing a large number of AFKs doesn't mean the system is not working, but rather that it is ineffective.

If you've ever reached the point of getting a 20 min low priority que, getting DC'd in a single game will put in a low priority que for 5 games. Purposely AFKing alot of games will also put you in the low priority que for 5 games. Thats the problem.

Fovere5/9/2016, 8:05:53 PM2 votes

It really isn't necessary.

I doubt if you report someone for being AFK and the automatic system doesn't pick it up they are even able to receive any form of punishment

Guy Fox Teemo5/9/2016, 9:38:45 PM1 votes

Because some people just have a bad time and end up getting shitty internet in maybe a game or two, and some people actually understand and don't report them.

Atanchan5/9/2016, 10:14:41 PM1 votes

It is.

The option is there in case they're doing something to "trick" the automatic detection, like sapping exp from lanes in a bush or something.

Camilla Zolith5/10/2016, 5:18:54 AM1 votes

i somewhat agree here there was one game earlier where i was playing Warwick jungle which most people know have extreemly weak ganks pre 6 and i had a nid in mid getting beat by lux cause she couldnt dodge anything to save her life and 1st time she pinged for help i tried telling her i wasnt 6 yet dont have my surpress and 2nd time she pinged she was so pushed in and lux was decently fed by this point that any gank would have meant diving a lux that had decent gold under her turret and after that nid was asking in all chat to have me reported for afk when im trying to get my top and bot lanes ahead. my ADC defended me on this but seriously people would report for afk just cause they are not getting the help they want and decide to be babies about it and all it does is makes someone not wanna help them in the future. with all the focus on dragons and rift mid doesnt get as much love from the jungle it used to and some champs that are likely gonna see play again like nunu cant even gank worth anything but make up for it in ability to control dragons and such. players like this nid really kind of ruin team synergy when they wanna report for afk when they are losing their lane and not seeing the ganks they wanna see.

Aír5/10/2016, 3:49:08 PM1 votes

People do get punished automatically due to leaver buster if they are afk by the end of the game. The option to report someone for afk is used in senarios where a) someone might just sit at fountain and not go anywhere, waiting for the enemy team to end the game BUT not disconnecting or b) AFKed for most of the game for a stupid reason which could have lost you the game. These scenarios cannot be caught by leaverbuster (and the second one shouldn't since sometimes it is a legit emergency). But yeah, here is the reason!

ltmetal5/10/2016, 3:57:44 PM1 votes

The report for AFK is a placebo. If there was no report category that stroked someone's ego for losing due to an AFK, most people would simply find another.

The main question I have is, does reporting for leaving the game reduce the weight of your reports?

EL HAMSTERO5/11/2016, 1:57:03 AM1 votes

it doesnt do anythnig to report someone for afk. they just put it in to make the players feel better.

Chibi Vydra5/11/2016, 8:42:49 AM1 votes

If there name is red at the end of the game they're already marked afk for the system. This doesn't mean they will be punished, it just means the system knows. Reporting them for afk tells the same system that they were afk, which it already knows, so if their name is red, you don't have to report them for it. The only reason you CAN report them for afk is if they move around to avoid detection.

legionnaire995/9/2016, 5:46:50 PM1 votes

You can afk without logging out or even leaving the game

RogzOfGame8/11/2017, 6:33:29 PM1 votes

I have a problem in my computer and me not afk but this is a problem please end ban time

lunien5/9/2016, 5:57:13 PM1 votes

You can afk for 30 seconds and come back.

Verxint5/9/2016, 6:05:53 PM1 votes

So that people trying to avoid afk detection still get punished.

JayHog19925/9/2016, 6:14:54 PM1 votes

Problem is that they can just come back lategame to avoid the afk punishment, so reporting them makes them better punished over it.

Minarde5/9/2016, 7:21:24 PM1 votes

A really high percent of ARAM matches end up having an AFK that solely determines the outcome.

This isn't specific to ARAM; it's related to your MMR. Higher MMR games are less likely to have an AFK, regardless of game mode. AFKing tends to lead to losses, so the people likely to AFK probably don't win too often.

However, why should people even have to report someone for AFK and have it go through the tribunal, when the tribunal can't even see the person going AFK?

Tribunal's been down for at least a year or two. Anyway, Rioters have said in the past that LeaverBuster already handles AFKs and that reports just help fine-tune the system.

Bandeera5/9/2016, 7:49:55 PM1 votes

Being able to chose reporting or not reporting them is cause they might have carried your game hard and had a pc issue and came back and you dont want to report out of fairness.