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Will RIot ever look at inters/trolls? Or does their system only consider flamers... useless system

viggyazelea·4/6/2018, 11:42:30 PM·3 votes·530 views

I've had countless games with assholes inting and trolling. Last game singed trolled running into top and 1v5's and just said "first time singed :*) or lag". He tped from base to nexus towers and said "misclick". Like really? Is this shit allowed but if you call that guy a dick or an asshole you get banned like what the fuck kind of environment is this creating? Don't solve the inherent fucking problem but ban the people who are trying their best to win and call the troll out for WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID. I didn't get banned or chat restricted but this is actually a joke. 90% of flaming comes from trolls/inters but don't solve that, ban the flamers riot, something which can be solved by muting. This system actually sucks and I think this is why league is starting to die out. If you guys weren't as cheap as you are and actually put 5-10 guys working on this shit I think your game would be a lot more enjoyable and get a better player base. Let me know what you guys think

12 Comments

Athina4/7/2018, 12:08:35 AM3 votes

Simply put, it's more difficult to catch someone who is trolling, intentionally feeding, etc. than someone harassing others in chat. Without manual review, the system needs a lot of data that suggests they've been trolling/intentionally feeding before it can be confident to do something about it, and there isn't nearly enough manpower to manually review every single report for it.

That aside, what does calling those players out actually do? You're not going to convince them in that moment to suddenly be an honorable player. Their entire goal with trolling is to get a reaction out of you, and you're doing exactly that by calling them out. All they want to get you mad and make you say things that will get you punished.

Chermorg4/7/2018, 12:21:43 AM3 votes

The issue here is that you must prove intent to punish someone. It is very hard to prove intent if they don't say "i'm intentionally feeding the enemy" or something like that. You can prove actions and effects easily, but you must prove they had malicious intent in order to want them to get punished.

Grilled Penguin4/7/2018, 1:23:57 AM2 votes

System is only good for catching people saying bad words and fails miserably when it comes to other forms of toxicity.

Nirvøy4/6/2018, 11:56:50 PM1 votes

It's simply harder to detect game play toxicity than it is to detect verbal toxicity. You can just filter out words to catch a toxic flamer but there are a lot more variables that goes into play when trying to catch a troll. Biggest problem is that you actually have to know how the game works and have played long enough to be able to distinguish between bad play and trolling. This experience is something that can't really be implemented into AI as efficiently as filtering out words.

Telephone Booth4/7/2018, 1:40:43 AM1 votes

Yeah they try, but it's not so easy. System sucks at detecting, confirming, punishing trolls.

Lux OP4/8/2018, 10:16:19 PM1 votes

Flaming should only ever max out punishment-wise at permanent chat restriction/chat removal. Chat is a useless feature, Discord exists and works better for what chat is supposed to do.

Intentional feeding/trolling should be 1 week, 1 month, 1 year ban from ranked.

Permanently banning flamers is lazily treating a symptom of toxicity. Fixing queue means letting the community police ranked- i. e. If you get more than 10 complaints in a 24h period you lose ranked queue privileges for 24h. The biggest problem with ranked is people who don't give a shit about playing a team game