Draven main abusive behavior / homophobic remarks

You can't show us those pictures and then say

I truly hope this guy gets the ban hammer or something, just not cool :(

You egged him on to continue flaming. You clearly didn't even care he said anything to you, and if you did you should just have removed him when he sent that first message.

I don't have even the slightest sympathy for you.

He shouldn't have added you to flame you, you shouldn't have kept him as a friend and egged him on.

It was your fault for adding him. Riot can't ban someone if they diden't flame ingame. Becuase sometimes friends say bad things to each other as joke. If riot would ban people for flaming in a friendlist that you chose personnaly there would be a lot more banned accounts..

It was your fault for adding him and move on.

Dammit you were.doing so good too.

Why did you have to call him disgusting.

Trust me if you want to piss these people off then the angeier they get the nicer you have to be.

It INFURIATES them.

Riot doesnt punish people for post game chats with friends. it was your choice to add the dude...

I remember making a thread that got a few dislikes where half and half it was about my partial acceptence of a ban I got but also criticizing hate-speech policy. Uhh . . . you can probably guess one of the things I presumably got banned for. Not perma, mind you, but still. One point I was trying to make is how redundant punishing someone for hate speech is. For the context I'm given at least, this Draven doesn't seem to be a nice guy. Which to be fair, I guess he's kind of in character at least. If any character were to drop the big F-bomb I imagine it would probably be an edgy Noxian.

When someone is being abusive it doesn't really make sense to throw in a harsher punishment because they dropped an F-bomb. Because the fact they dropped an F-bomb when we put things into perspective doesn't actually matter. No one can just magically jump inside someone's head and tell whether they're being genuinely homophobic or if they're just using a word to be venomous that's completely irrelevant to their actual views on people. And even if they were homophobic, I wouldn't say that's what matters. What matters is that they were being abusive. So on principle, it's just weird to me that people get out a bigger hammer to punish people not based on the level of their actual abuse, but because they said something more in the realms of being politically offensive. Because from my own perspective, as a gay man who has to advertise this everywhere I go when I'm on this subject, I feel genuine unease whenever I criticize hate-speech policy in general. I worry that I'll get punished for 'spreading hate-speech' or face some other accusation that doesn't actually honestly summarize the situation or accurately reflect my real position.

Why I'm bringing this all up here is quite simple, and that's because to me it doesn't make sense to look at the situation where this person should logically get charged for abusive behavior and homophobic remarks. Because honestly, those homophobic remarks in my opinion were the least terrible things they've written, so it makes no sense to punish them more harshly on a specific abusive behavior (hate-speech) when it's the least abusive thing they've done and it already fits under being abusive behavior. It's kind of like arresting someone who stole a car and doubling down on the punishment because they ate a chocolate bar that was already in the vehicle. Well, maybe not but I still thought it seemed clever when I wrote it.

The two things I find the hardest to figure out is if their behavior is still punishable when they weren't in a game and how much if they were to be punished. Overall I think I lean on the side of handing out a lighter punishment. Which is kind of ironic I suppose, because I'm in essence saying that someone who flat out seeks to troll people and be abusive deserves lighter punishment than I've faced even though I never seek to be abusive. Then again, justice isn't defined by just the intent alone but also by the severity of the crime. Abusive behavior outside of a game simply isn't as bad as when it's in one. The greatest issue I have isn't even necessarily that they were abusive (which they were) but how much I disdain their intent to skate around policy and flat out be toxic, presumably with the expectation to avoid punishment because they're not doing it specifically in-game. They're flat out seeking to be a subversive element. So yeah, I think I lean on a light punishment. Which to be honest, I'm not even sure if I'm with that either. I dunno.

Ok so you look out the window. You see some guy beating the shit out of another guy. So you invite the violent dude into your house and cry about getting your ass kicked..

Makes perfect sense mate